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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #135 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:17am

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 10:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 8:56am:

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There was a band decades ago that triggered the amygdalas of UK citizens, such that extreme actions by the state were considered to crush them...

The lyrics to one of their songs were feared it would 'bring down the state'... and it goes something like this:

God save the Queen, the fascist regime
They made you a moron, A potential H bomb

God save the Queen, She ain't no human being
There is no future In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want, you want And don't be told what you want to need
There's no future, no future, No future for you

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
We love our Queen, God saves

God save the Queen, 'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead, is not what she seems

God save history, God save your mad parade
Oh lord God, have mercy, All crimes are paid

When there's no future, how can there be sin?
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
There is no future, In England's dreaming
No future, No future, No future for you...

Spoiler alert... It didn't bring down the state.

The amygdala is now processing totally abstract moral concepts entirely enclosed in language, dealing with history, politics, manners.

I do t think you even half understand what you are talking about.

You're back, you mincing idiot... desperate as always... How was the chicken?

The amygdala reference in context is a stand-in for 'raised the hackles', given the thread name.

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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #137 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:19am

Yadda wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 6:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Incommensurate. Also a category mistake.
Moral judgement is not made by biochemical processes. Values are not chemical and are not reducible to boochemistry.
You can change your values. You cannot change your response to an electric current in your amygdala or your testes.

Wait till you have dementia that has destroyed your insula when you're chowing down on a turd while exposing yoursef to an orderly in the home... something for you to look forward to, eh, Agatha Frank (they/them)...

Yes, you can train yourself not to respond to amygdalic/insula recoil...
so, go out and make as many friends as you can with Aboriginals, Africans, subcontinentals (specifically Pakistanis) and Middle Easterners (specifically Arabs)...

MeisterEckhart,

Why do so ???

That, could be a very stupid decision.

The paragraph was written tongue-in-cheek, given the poster...

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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #138 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:29am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:17am:

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 10:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 8:56am:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Rod-Getty.jpg

There was a band decades ago that triggered the amygdalas of UK citizens, such that extreme actions by the state were considered to crush them...

The lyrics to one of their songs were feared it would 'bring down the state'... and it goes something like this:

God save the Queen, the fascist regime
They made you a moron, A potential H bomb

God save the Queen, She ain't no human being
There is no future In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want, you want And don't be told what you want to need
There's no future, no future, No future for you

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
We love our Queen, God saves

God save the Queen, 'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead, is not what she seems

God save history, God save your mad parade
Oh lord God, have mercy, All crimes are paid

When there's no future, how can there be sin?
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
There is no future, In England's dreaming
No future, No future, No future for you...

Spoiler alert... It didn't bring down the state.

The amygdala is now processing totally abstract moral concepts entirely enclosed in language, dealing with history, politics, manners.

I do t think you even half understand what you are talking about.

You're back, you mincing idiot... desperate as always... How was the chicken?

The amygdala reference in context is a stand-in for 'raised the hackles', given the thread name.

Give us another one!

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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #139 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:31am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:19am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 10:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 6:15pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 6:04pm:

Incommensurate. Also a category mistake.
Moral judgement is not made by biochemical processes. Values are not chemical and are not reducible to boochemistry.
You can change your values. You cannot change your response to an electric current in your amygdala or your testes.

Wait till you have dementia that has destroyed your insula when you're chowing down on a turd while exposing yoursef to an orderly in the home... something for you to look forward to, eh, Agatha Frank (they/them)...

Yes, you can train yourself not to respond to amygdalic/insula recoil...
so, go out and make as many friends as you can with Aboriginals, Africans, subcontinentals (specifically Pakistanis) and Middle Easterners (specifically Arabs)...

MeisterEckhart,

Why do so ???

That, could be a very stupid decision.

The paragraph was written tongue-in-cheek, given the poster...

Do you have anything with mind in gear?

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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #140 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:32am

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:29am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:17am:

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 10:54am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 8:56am:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Rod-Getty.jpg

There was a band decades ago that triggered the amygdalas of UK citizens, such that extreme actions by the state were considered to crush them...

The lyrics to one of their songs were feared it would 'bring down the state'... and it goes something like this:

God save the Queen, the fascist regime
They made you a moron, A potential H bomb

God save the Queen, She ain't no human being
There is no future In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want, you want And don't be told what you want to need
There's no future, no future, No future for you

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
We love our Queen, God saves

God save the Queen, 'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead, is not what she seems

God save history, God save your mad parade
Oh lord God, have mercy, All crimes are paid

When there's no future, how can there be sin?
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the Queen, We mean it, man
There is no future, In England's dreaming
No future, No future, No future for you...

Spoiler alert... It didn't bring down the state.

The amygdala is now processing totally abstract moral concepts entirely enclosed in language, dealing with history, politics, manners.

I do t think you even half understand what you are talking about.

You're back, you mincing idiot... desperate as always... How was the chicken?

The amygdala reference in context is a stand-in for 'raised the hackles', given the thread name.

Give us another one!

Who's 'us'?

Is that Agatha or Frank, Agatha Frank (they/them)?

What did you teach? Something to do with cheese?

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Re: Instinctive Ethnocultural Recoil
Reply #141 - Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:36am

Frank wrote on Jul 5^th, 2025 at 11:31am:

Do you have anything with mind in gear?

Yep... Meet those ethnics you recoil from... Not in a sexual way, of course... most of their cultures would throw you off a building for that...

It works for other phobias... why not with fear of Aboriginals, Africans, subcontinentals (specifically Pakistanis) and Middle Easterners (specifically Arabs)?

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