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Reply #90 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 8:43am

ohh look

the American bunker busters failed to do the job .... surprise Cheesy

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Iran could resume enriching uranium within months, UN nuclear watchdog boss says

Iran could resume producing enriched uranium in months, according to comments made by the head of the United Nations' nuclear watchdog that have raised more doubts about the efficacy of US strikes on Tehran's nuclear program.

Officials in the United States have repeatedly stated that the strikes on Iran's Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan nuclear facilities "obliterated" them, although President Donald Trump said on Friday that he would consider bombing the Middle Eastern nation again if it was enriching uranium to worrisome levels.

Rafael Grossi, the director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), told CBS News in an interview on Sunday that Iran's capabilities to resolve any damage to its nuclear program do not appear to have been wiped out.

"The capacities they have are there. They can have, you know, in a matter of months, I would say, a few cascades of centrifuges spinning and producing enriched uranium, or less than that," he said.

"Frankly speaking, one cannot claim that everything has disappeared and there is nothing there."

US officials also obtained an intercepted phone call between Iranian officials appearing to suggest the government in Tehran believes the US strikes were less devastating than expected, according to a report from The Washington Post.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-30/iran-could-enrich-uranium-within-months-i...

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Re: Did the bunker busters do any damage at all
Reply #91 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 10:14am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 8:43am:

ohh look

the American bunker busters failed to do the job .... surprise Cheesy

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Iran could resume enriching uranium within months, UN nuclear watchdog boss says

Iran could resume producing enriched uranium in months, according to comments made by the head of the United Nations' nuclear watchdog that have raised more doubts about the efficacy of US strikes on Tehran's nuclear program.

Officials in the United States have repeatedly stated that the strikes on Iran's Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan nuclear facilities "obliterated" them, although President Donald Trump said on Friday that he would consider bombing the Middle Eastern nation again if it was enriching uranium to worrisome levels.

Rafael Grossi, the director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), told CBS News in an interview on Sunday that Iran's capabilities to resolve any damage to its nuclear program do not appear to have been wiped out.

"The capacities they have are there. They can have, you know, in a matter of months, I would say, a few cascades of centrifuges spinning and producing enriched uranium, or less than that," he said.

"Frankly speaking, one cannot claim that everything has disappeared and there is nothing there."

US officials also obtained an intercepted phone call between Iranian officials appearing to suggest the government in Tehran believes the US strikes were less devastating than expected, according to a report from The Washington Post.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-30/iran-could-enrich-uranium-within-months-i...

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Reply #92 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:48am

Iran will not develop a nuclear bomb. That is the long and the short of it. Secret continuation of the nuclear weapons program is over.

There is no Russian or Chinese military support for Iran. There are no air defences over Iran or Syria or Iraq against Israel or the US. They can bomb Iran at will. And they will if Iran continues to play silly buggers. Iran has no cards.

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Re: Did the bunker busters do any damage at all
Reply #93 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 12:47pm

Frank wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

Iran will not develop a nuclear bomb. That is the long and the short of it. Secret continuation of the nuclear weapons program is over.

There is no Russian or Chinese military support for Iran. There are no air defences over Iran or Syria or Iraq against Israel or the US. They can bomb Iran at will. And they will if Iran continues to play silly buggers. Iran has no cards.

That's a hard claim to make. It contradicts the claims that others here have been making that Iran wasn't compliant with the JCPOA and had another secret program going.

The sites that were bombed were the same that were inspected and confirmed compliant under the JCPOA by the IAEA, so if there was a secret program going on, those sites wouldn't have been bombed and it could still be happening.

The two claims are mutually exclusive, and both can't be true at the same time.

I'd prefer your version to be true, just like I would have preferred Trump didn't scrap the JCPOA and we'd never have needed this escalation to war and the deaths of civilians from both Israel and Iran.

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Reply #95 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 3:29am

Frank wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

Iran will not develop a nuclear bomb. That is the long and the short of it. Secret continuation of the nuclear weapons program is over.

There is no Russian or Chinese military support for Iran. There are no air defences over Iran or Syria or Iraq against Israel or the US. They can bomb Iran at will.

That's a relief. So nice to know you care, dear boy.

It just goes to show how terrible you felt for supporting the invasion of Iraq. You apologized profusely for that one, after all. You were ever so remorseful and sad.

Then, you picked yourself up and got back on with life, as you do. That's that, you said. We've learned our lesson, so never again.

We were surprised. Really? We said.

We must have peace, you said. Read your Zizek. The world needs a deal-maker, a negotiator, an expert at diplomacy and the art of the deal.

Yes...

So why not a property-inheriting, pussy-grabbing, reality TV star?

Now hang on, we said.

No no, you said, why not? You need to think outside the box. Just look at the mess these awful neocons have got us into. Why can't our leaders focus on helping their own people instead?

Oh, I see, we said. House the homeless, treat the sick, feed the hungry, that kind of thing?

No, you said, help the billionaires, pay off the elites, make the rich even richer.

Aha, we said, I think we've got it. We pay off the billionaires, give them squillions and then, once we've done that, we can start another endless war.

Exactly, you said. Good show. Remember...

I know I know, we said. Colonialism ended far too soon.

Quite so.

Carpetbomb them.

Just so.

Send them back to where they came from.

Exactlemente. Remember, if you don't have a dream, then how are you going to make-a your dreams come true?

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Re: Did the bunker busters do any damage at all
Reply #96 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 4:16am

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 12:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 11:48am:

Iran will not develop a nuclear bomb.

They weren't developing one before ... right up until Trump cancelled the deal with them Cheesy

But that's just the genius of it, don't you see?

Congress had a solution on the border too, remember? A whole immigration reform package. Money for more border policing, judges, new legislation and time frames for processing, the lot. The GOP chaired the committee and wrote the bill themselves.

DL had them pull it, as you do. How rude to try to fix things like that, he said. I'm a disrupter.

He literally said that. One by one, his supporters all came out in support. DISRUPTION !!! CHAOS !!! ANARCHY !!!

Frannie's gone along with it all. Remember how he was once just a nice old Danish-loving, Kierkegaard-reading conservative?

Not anymore. Today, Frank wants VENGEANCE. He wants to blow up the entire Western order he once professed to honour and obey.

He's not even being cunning about it, like how back in the day he gave some momentary thought to who'd replace Saddam.

Not anymore. Today, Frannie's content to watch WWIII ignite and sit back to have a chuckle. He's not even pretending otherwise.

And it's not just Frank. Today, the poster who started this board to bring reason and freedom and sensible political debate to Australians has joined the cause too.

Yes, the same poster who put a swearword filter on the board so as not to offend the kiddies now has a sock who comes on to promote DISRUPTION !!!

He used to promote FREEEEEDOM, remember? Iraq was always just around the corner from becoming the next South Korea, that prosperous, democratic country the US liberated from backward evil tintedness.

These aren't mere whims either. These views were expressed over page after page, digging themselves in even further with each and every post. FD truly believed in the invasion of Iraq. The old boy too.

Of course, we know FD has an economic incentive. Ozpol is hardly the new News Ltd, even if FD's always admired the business model. So what is the incentive?

What makes them abandon everything they've ever believed or at least said they believed or held dear?

I must admit, I'm still totally in the dark on that. Perhaps Fran will come along and blame Sleepy Joe Biden or his puppet-master B. Hussein or some other diabolical figment of his imagination, but do you know?

I don't think they know themselves. This is a revolution of total unconsciousness. How can they know? I don't think they want to know.

You?

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Reply #98 - Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:10pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

Exactly.
Israel and the US have demonstrated that Islamic Republic of Iran is not a real country to be taken seriously. It can be Bombed at will.

It has no cards. It's proxies are destroyed, it's air defences are destroyed, it has no effective allies- no Russia, no China no nuffin'.

Are the Persians really Muslim fanatics or are they subjugated converts to Islam who can shake it off and free themselves?

Would other conquered covert people follow suit?

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Reply #99 - Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:56pm

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

SAM sites use radar and it's on all the time -
giving away their precise position.
the Israelis just used HARM missiles fired from jet fighters and aimed them at the radars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-88_HARM

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Reply #100 - Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:55am

Frank wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

Exactly.
Israel and the US have demonstrated that Islamic Republic of Iran is not a real country to be taken seriously. It can be Bombed at will.

It has no cards. It's proxies are destroyed, it's air defences are destroyed, it has no effective allies- no Russia, no China no nuffin'.

Are the Persians really Muslim fanatics or are they subjugated converts to Islam who can shake it off and free themselves?

Would other conquered covert people follow suit?

Fortunately, old boy, you're asking just the right person. Gordon used to go out with a lovely Persian princess.

Would you like to give this one a stab, Gordon?

Now let's see, how to put this. Gordon, was your sweetie a hideous Muslim fanatic or merely a subjugated convert to Islam who can shake her religion off, free herself and become, I don't know, a nice Lutheran instead?

I believe it's an either/or, dear, but do feel free to add any additional thoughts.

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Re: Did the bunker busters do any damage at all
Reply #101 - Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:48am

Karnal wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:55am:

Frank wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

Exactly.
Israel and the US have demonstrated that Islamic Republic of Iran is not a real country to be taken seriously. It can be Bombed at will.

It has no cards. It's proxies are destroyed, it's air defences are destroyed, it has no effective allies- no Russia, no China no nuffin'.

Are the Persians really Muslim fanatics or are they subjugated converts to Islam who can shake it off and free themselves?

Would other conquered covert people follow suit?

Fortunately, old boy, you're asking just the right person. Gordon used to go out with a lovely Persian princess.

Would you like to give this one a stab, Gordon?

Now let's see, how to put this. Gordon, was your sweetie a hideous Muslim fanatic or merely a subjugated convert to Islam who can shake her religion off, free herself and become, I don't know, a nice Lutheran instead?

I believe it's an either/or, dear, but do feel free to add any additional thoughts.

Oh, he's gone.

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Reply #102 - Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:51am

Karnal wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:55am:

Frank wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

Exactly.
Israel and the US have demonstrated that Islamic Republic of Iran is not a real country to be taken seriously. It can be Bombed at will.

It has no cards. It's proxies are destroyed, it's air defences are destroyed, it has no effective allies- no Russia, no China no nuffin'.

Are the Persians really Muslim fanatics or are they subjugated converts to Islam who can shake it off and free themselves?

Would other conquered covert people follow suit?

Fortunately, old boy, you're asking just the right person. Gordon used to go out with a lovely Persian princess.

Would you like to give this one a stab, Gordon?

Now let's see, how to put this. Gordon, was your sweetie a hideous Muslim fanatic or merely a subjugated convert to Islam who can shake her religion off, free herself and become, I don't know, a nice Lutheran instead?

I believe it's an either/or, dear, but do feel free to add any additional thoughts.

I deflowered a 40 year old Muslim virgin when I was 29. Does that count? At that age, I needed a jackhammer to be a bunker buster.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Reply #103 - Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:54am

Jasin wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 7:51am:

Karnal wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2025 at 1:55am:

Frank wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 10:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 9:25pm:

The best thing about these air strikes is Iran know knows the US had drop a bomb on any part of Iran, any time it likes and the Iranian people know the regime has pissed away billions on air defenses that don't work.

Exactly.
Israel and the US have demonstrated that Islamic Republic of Iran is not a real country to be taken seriously. It can be Bombed at will.

It has no cards. It's proxies are destroyed, it's air defences are destroyed, it has no effective allies- no Russia, no China no nuffin'.

Are the Persians really Muslim fanatics or are they subjugated converts to Islam who can shake it off and free themselves?

Would other conquered covert people follow suit?

Fortunately, old boy, you're asking just the right person. Gordon used to go out with a lovely Persian princess.

Would you like to give this one a stab, Gordon?

Now let's see, how to put this. Gordon, was your sweetie a hideous Muslim fanatic or merely a subjugated convert to Islam who can shake her religion off, free herself and become, I don't know, a nice Lutheran instead?

I believe it's an either/or, dear, but do feel free to add any additional thoughts.

I deflowered a 40 year old Muslim virgin when I was 29. Does that count? At that age, I needed a jackhammer.

What was his name?

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