How did they manage to get close to military planes?

freediver wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 8:09am:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn81g4e0nlyo



And Gnads, who's behind all that immigration?

Here's who:




http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1652250085/236#236


And if you attack those protesters then you are indirectly supporting that genocide. Shame on you.

Yadda wrote on Jun 26^th, 2025 at 9:10pm:


Why do you think they weren't?

Quote:


Explain to me why Baruch Goldstein in Feb 1994 murdered 29 Palestinian people and injured dozens more in Hebron (Cave of the Patriarchs massacre).

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:26am:



Well you MUST know wombatwoody.  ???


i.e.
You are referring in YOUR POST.......
to these persons......as being PEACE ACTIVISTS.

peace = = the cessation of war.

activism = = the use of vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.


So you and i must assume that these   >> peace activists <<   ARE AWARE,
of the 'mainline'......violent and murderous, religious doctrines of ISLAM,
and i assume that those   >> peace activists <<   are unceasingly denouncing the violent ISLAMIC religious doctrines,
which are promoted......by all devout followers of ISLAM ??

Right ?



wombatwoody,





HERE...SOME OF THESE CALLS OF ISLAM,
TO BRING VIOLENCE AGAINST 'DISBELIEVERS'.....
ARE CITED BELOW.

e.g.
From the Sunna of Mohammed...

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?"
He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad).
The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?
He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026




n.b.
ISLAM promotes >> hatred << of ALL non-moslems - AS A RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

INSTRUCTION DIRECTLY FROM ALLAH, IN THE HOLY KORAN.......


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39


"Say: "...If ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men,
then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!"  "
Koran 62.06


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85


"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

Are Jihad and Martyrdom in the Bible?

Reply #25 - Jul 13th, 2019
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1562914791/25#25
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1562914791/26#26
MORE HERE.....
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1562914791/5#5



JEWISH RELIGIOUS LAW......

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

[   AND AS AN ASIDE....if the stranger who is living among God's people becomes a killer....there is no exemption for him, from the law.......AND THIS IS OLD TESTAMENT.......
Leviticus 24:17  And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.

AND LIARS....AKA, FALSE WITNESSES......
Deuteronomy 19:16  If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17  Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18  And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: AND, BEHOLD, IF THE WITNESS BE A FALSE WITNESS, AND HATH TESTIFIED FALSELY AGAINST HIS BROTHER;
19  THEN SHALL YE DO UNTO HIM, AS HE HAD THOUGHT TO HAVE DONE UNTO HIS BROTHER: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.   ]

Gnads wrote on Jun 25^th, 2025 at 10:56am:

Palestine Action = terrorist scumbags.

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:47am:


You are uneducable.

Jehovah is "a jealous God".....

The "Peoples of the Book" are fighting amongst themselves. and endangering all of us.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:13am:




thegreatdivide,

Huh ?

The followers of Allah, are usurpers, who come with 'swords'......to kill.

They say exactly that, that they come with 'swords'......to kill......all who resist their oppression.

e.g.
From the Sunna of Mohammed...

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?"
He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad).
The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)?
He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026





- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260




Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220


".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062







.






The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, He is God.


Malachi 3:6
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, is the protector of His people.

They are His little flock.

He made an ancient covenant with His people.....a covenant which His people broke.

And yet......

Exodus 19:4
Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
5  Now therefore,
if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant,
then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6  And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
7  And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
8  And all the people answered together,
and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do.
And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.


Isaiah 54:6
For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
7  For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
8  In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
9  For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
10  For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed;
but my kindness shall not depart from thee,
neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:27am:


I am just asking you if you disagree with what Yadda said. You have a happy of calling people idiots when you actually agree with what they say.

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:55am:


Damage? A tiny bit of spray paint. You call that damage?


Quote:


Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:55pm:




HAMAS, itself, >> INTENTIONALLY << made Gaza a WAR ZONE......on Oct 7, 2023.

When HAMAS want the death [conflict] in Gaza to end,
HAMAS can end the war in Gaza, in a moment.

With just simple declaration........and HAMAS could end the whole conflict in Gaza.



- Ahmad Shah Massoud

Respect.


.


wombatwoody wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:55pm:






ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult....
who's 'maniacal' 'religious' doctrines, have corrupted the psyche of all those persons....
who have fallen under its thrall.

thrall = =
1 the state of being in another’s power.
2 a slave, servant, or captive.


.


IMAGE.....


Quote:


IMAGE



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621945743/7#7



Quote:
- Palestinian Authority - TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN
HOW THEY OUGHT TO PRACTICE ISLAM.
source - https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian...

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am:


Why must I keep repeating myself?

Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009 that “Hamas…is Israel’s creation.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http:/online.wsj.com/article/SB123275...

And Hamas is financed by Israel:

https://news.sky.com/video/benjamin-netanyahu-allowed-millions-of-dollars-to-go-...

And:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621916534/214#214

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 8:55am:


I keep repeating myself, because you do not answer the question. You keep repeating yourself because you are afraid to answer the question. I am not asking you to copy and paste fragments of other people's sentences. I am asking you to explain your version of this grand Jewish conspiracy.

Will you do that, or do you recognise that it is too stupid to put into writing? And if you do realise that it is too stupid to commit to writing, why do you keep parroting it with fragments of other people's opinions? Or is it the case that you understand none of what you post and want us to tell you what your opinion is? Perhaps you hate Jews so much because you see yourself as a puppet, and you are forced to speak the Jews words by the cunning hand inside you? These are the things that you leave people wondering when you obsessively post your propaganda.

FD & Yadda, if you think the words of an experienced diplomat and former Israeli ambassador to the US (Danny Ayalon), and reports from the MSM, are a mere 'opinion' you need your heads read.

Quote:

These innocent people have been targeted by Hamas for too long.

MattE wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:42am:



Bullcrap.

https://www.aljazeera.com/video/start-here/2025/7/1/gaza-aid-killings-start-here

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:56pm:


The bit where you quoted part of someone else's sentence instead of having your own thoughts.

Are you having difficulty understanding the question? Or do you literally have no thoughts of your own on this matter?

freediver wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 6:14pm:


Hi FD, you didn't answer Wombat's question.

Why do you classify peace activists who throw paint on planes terrorists, but ignore what Israel is currently doing in Gaza?

That's a question. If you have difficulty understanding it, please explain in your reply.

Cheers.

Frank wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 6:47pm:


PLO chairman Yasser Arafat stated in his 1974 speech to the United Nations, “We do distinguish between Judaism and Zionism. While we maintain our opposition to the colonialist Zionist movement, we respect the Jewish faith.”

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:57pm:



The United Nations human rights office has said it recorded at least 613 killings of Palestinians, both at controversial aid points run by the Israeli and United States-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) and near humanitarian convoys.

“This is a figure as of June 27. Since then … there have been further incidents,” Ravina Shamdasani, the spokesperson for the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), told reporters in Geneva on Friday.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/4/un-says-613-gaza-killings-recorded-at-ai...

As of yesterday that figure has risen to 770, Aljazeera reports.

It should not be forgotten that UNRWA had 400 sites dotted all over Gaza until Israel stopped it all. Whereas, GHF had only four, three in the south, one in the centre and none in the north. Now that's down to just one.

No wonder Jake Wood quit.

https://x.com/Resist_05/status/1942733735180525952

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 8:55am:


Pretty obvious to me that you don't understand/interpret the reasons of how Israel supposedly created HAMAS.

It certainly wasn't intentional. So you allow people the freedom of practicing their religion, don't crack down on the more radical Islamists .....

and it's all your fault that they see that as weakness in their enemy - take it a step further and presto Israel creates Hamas?????

What BS - it's what radical Islamists would have done regardless.

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:40am:


They should be shut down.

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 8:41am:

These are your people, this is what you stand for.

https://x.com/Sarah4Trump_/status/1942956937215160740

freediver wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 7:04am:


I notice you avoided me saying you're being argumentative. Truth hurts, eh?

When someone posts a link to a news article or statement by a politician/govt. member and doesn't refute it or otherwise disagrees then, it goes without saying, that person is expressing their agreement. IOW, nothing more needs to be said.

That you disregard that shows you're being argumentative - and evasive and disruptive, which is your debating style, if it can be called debating at all.

Besides, I've made my thoughts on Zionism in general and the current situation in particular very clear. On the latter see the Israel Ordered Military to Stand Down thread, for one.

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:41pm:



Mr. Balfour's private thoughts were much with Zionism. At no time, as far as the annals disclose, did he give thought to the native inhabitants of Palestine, whose expulsion into the wilderness he was to cause... Dr. Weizmann, forty years later, recorded that the Mr. Balfour whom he met "had only the most naive and rudimentary notion of the movement"; he did not even know Dr. Herzl's name, the nearest he could get to it being "Dr. Herz". Mr. Balfour was already carried away by his enthusiasm for the unknown cause. He posed formal objections, but apparently only for the pleasure of hearing them overborne, as might a girl object to the elopement she secretly desires.

  -- Douglas Reed, The Controversy of Zion, Chapter 28: The Aberration of Mr. Balfour



According to W.J.M. Childs, in, A History of the Peace Conference of Paris, v. 6, p. 172-73 (published under the auspices of the British Institute for International Affairs in 1924):

It is possible to understand from many sources that directly, and indirectly, the services expected of Jewry were not expected in vain, and were, from the point of view of British interests alone, well worth the price which had to be paid. Nor is it to be supposed that the services already rendered are the last—it may well be that in time to come Jewish support will much exceed any thought possible in the past.

What were "the services expected of Jewry" that were "not expected in vain" and were "well worth the price"? In 1936, Samuel Landman let the cat out of the bag with a pamphlet entitled Great Britain, the Jews and Palestine. Landman had been in Weizmann’s circle during the war—a point easily ascertainable from biographies of Weizmann—and was in a position to know what had gone on between the Zionists and the British government.

Landman’s pamphlet was addressed to the British government. His complaint was that in 1916 there had been what he called a "gentleman’s agreement" between the Zionists and the British government; that the Zionists had fully upheld their own end of the agreement; and that now, 20 years later, the British had yet to deliver Palestine.

According to Landman, the Zionist quid pro quo for the Balfour Declaration was nothing less than to "induce the American President to come into the War" on the British side. Landman complained that this wartime service to the British accounted "in no small measure" for Nazi anti-Semitism, and warned that if the British didn’t deliver a Jewish state in Palestine, the Jews in their despair might try to "pull down the pillars of civilisation."

Landman’s argument was in part that the British, having turned Jews into mortally endangered pariahs in Nazi Germany, had a moral obligation to extricate them. Similar moral-obligation arguments have recently been addressed to the U.S.—for example on behalf of Shiites and Kurds who rebelled against Saddam Hussein in response to American encouragement after the First Gulf War, and then found in the face of mass slaughter that the expected U.S. assistance was a chimera.

Landman’s words about pulling down "the pillars of civilisation," moreover, might have been taken as a threat that the Jews, having brought down two cousins of the English royal house, the czar and the kaiser, would turn next on the Nazi-sympathizer Edward VIII, then in the one partial year of his reign.

Landman’s pamphlet is a tale of double betrayal, first Zionist betrayal of the Germans—on whose side the Jews had first been—and then British betrayal of the Jews. The British had found their promise hard to keep. That was because of entirely understandable Arab resistance, amply forecast by the Zionist leader Vladimir Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky warned in his famous essay "The Iron Wall" (1923) that there had never been a people who had submitted willingly to colonization of their homeland, and that the Arabs in Palestine would not be the first. Nor was Jabotinsky’s warning new even in 1923. See Nur Masalha, Expulsion of the Palestinians: The Concept of "Transfer" in Zionist Political Thought, 1882-1948 (1992), and Masalha, The Politics of Denial (2003).

In 1997, John Cornelius argued persuasively in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs that the Zionists—having every incentive to guarantee British victory—brought the U.S. into the war in 1917 by leaking to British intelligence either the plain text of the Zimmermann Telegram or, more likely, the code in which it was encrypted. The Zimmermann Telegram, from the foreign office in Berlin to the German embassy in Mexico City, suggested that if the U.S. came in on the British side, Mexico be encouraged to "reconquer" its "lost territory" of Texas, New Mexico and Arizona.

  -- Nicholas Lysson, On The Origins of The Balfour Declaration, May 2006

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 1:06am:


You might be expressing your agreement. You also might not understand what is being said. With you, I am leaning towards the latter. The only time I managed to get you to say whether you agreed with what you post, you admitted it was probably BS. You could not explain why you compulsively post things that you know to be untrue.

Belgarion wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 4:53pm:


Disgraceful, barbaric and totally unacceptable.

Similarly, the IDF deliberately targeting women, children, schools and maternity hospitals is equally disgraceful and barbaric, and is also totally unacceptable.

Frank wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 5:27pm:


There certainly is.

Both sides are deliberately targeting innocent women and children.

And for some sick, twisted reason you applaud the IDF for their war crimes.

War criminals, rapists, convicted felons - you love 'em all.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12^th, 2025 at 5:07pm:


What that is... is a lie.

Frank wrote on Jul 11^th, 2025 at 10:43pm:


Islam has always respected the Jewish faith, while Muslims slaughter Jews. They learnt this trick from Muhammad. It's always the Jews fault you see. They are Zionists, or treacherous in some other way, like not converting to Islam. Muhammad held that Judaism was an inferior part of Islam, and thus deserving some respect, and as soon as he was in a position to bully people, threatened Jews with death if they did not convert. They did not convert. Muhammad slaughtered them and started Islam's first ethnic cleansing program.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2025 at 8:04am:


Yes, he wanted to impress the Jews and be regarded the final prophet of Yahweh. When the Jews laughed at him as the meshugah he was and ridiculed his mail-order Doctor of Divinity pretentions, his vanity was wounded and he turned on them with a vengeance.

That sort of psychological turn is not unusual, even today. 

Jasin wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:


I support Isreal and condemn HAMAS ya dickhead....What I do not support is the call for the culling of any people....Are you a NAZI ARSEHOLE???

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 3:24pm:

So you're a Switzerland shouting loud about how bad the Allies are, just as much as the Germans, Japs and Italians were and how superior you are as Switzerland for doing so.
I guess being on a Political Forum empowers Leftism Media virtue signallers like a holiday from their excesses of drugs & alcohol in the Music industry? Even in Sport.

Either pick a side or stick your head up your arse and just butt out.

Jasin wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 4:53pm:


Incoherant bullshit....You are just too stupid to be taken serious???

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:45pm:


So do you support the culling of innocent people to enact your retribution???

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:51pm:



Hamas started the 'culling' on 7 October 2023. It is highly dishonest of you and the other 'both sides' bozos to leave that bit out.

So if you want to characterise the Israeli response to the biggest pogrom since the Final Solution as mere 'culling', go ahead. It just reinforces your complete dishonesty.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 5:54pm:


You are alright with culling people....Do you know what that means or are you the one who is confused???

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 7:20pm:

I am absolutely right with culling everyone perpetrating and involved in the 7 October attack. In Gaza, across the world.

philperth2010 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2025 at 7:20pm:


How do you propose that Israel defend itself from Hamas without negotiating with anyone or killing anyone?

American, Malaysian & Pakistan soldiers had to fire into oncoming civilians purposely using themselves to hide Militia among them in the battles of Mogadishu.
Genocide? Culling?
I don't think so. Not when civilians allow themselves to be used as human shields for emotional blackmail. They've crossed the line.

The IDF are justified in their collateral damage against Civilians who are willingly being human shields in their Death to Jews/Israel aim.

Daves2017 wrote Yesterday at 12:22am:


HAMAS are scum....However how does Israel killing innocent people help their cause....Perhaps Israel should not have invaded the West Bank with illegal settlements....Ignoring the root cause allowes you to excuse Israels actions....Another guttless wonder like Freediver!!!

Quote:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjerjzxlpvdo

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-o...

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/7/19/how-israeli-settlements-are-taking-...

philperth2010 wrote Yesterday at 9:48am:


I am not avoiding it. You asked a different question. I answered it. You then switched the question and pretended I was answering a different question. I assumed it was just confusion on your part. It seems to happen every single time I respond to you. You are incapable of reading what people actually post and always insist on substituting whatever your angry little fantasy of the day is, then people spend pages and pages trying to explain to you how confused you are, but it never works. The more people say, the more there is for you to get confused about. And the more confused you get, the more certain you become that your fantasy is real.

freediver wrote Yesterday at 10:50am:


I oppose the culling of innocent people which is what I have been saying all along and you have been avoiding the issue with deflection and bullshit as usual....Calling for the culling of any people is disgusting and shows what a complete arsehole you really are....There is no confusion about you defending the culling of innocent people you arsehole!!!

Quote:


No Phil, you have been saying a lot of different things. You even went to the trouble of highlighting one of the different versions. Not only are you incapable of reading what other people actually write, you are also incapable of reading what you write. Perhaps that is why you are so flexible in the "interpretation" of other people's posts, because you don't mean exactly what you say.