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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #15 - Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:29am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:47am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:13am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:47am:

[quote author=Yadda link=1750797928/7#7 date=1750980856]

n.b.
ISLAM promotes >> hatred << of ALL non-moslems
AS A RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

No one should imagine [or claim].....
that my assertion above is an example of 'HATE SPEECH'.

You are uneducable.

Jehovah is "a jealous God".....

The "Peoples of the Book" are fighting amongst themselves. and endangering all of us.

Are you disagreeing with what was actually said, or with something that was not said?

Are you too untilligent to see that mythological "rellgious precepts" can cause both Islamic terrorism, and Jewish terrorism manifesting in illegal occuption of territory?

I am just asking you if you disagree with what Yadda said. You have a happy of calling people idiots when you actually agree with what they say.

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #16 - Jun 30^th, 2025 at 4:00pm

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:29am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:47am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:13am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:47am:

[quote author=Yadda link=1750797928/7#7 date=1750980856]

n.b.
ISLAM promotes >> hatred << of ALL non-moslems
AS A RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

No one should imagine [or claim].....
that my assertion above is an example of 'HATE SPEECH'.

You are uneducable.

Jehovah is "a jealous God".....

The "Peoples of the Book" are fighting amongst themselves. and endangering all of us.

Are you disagreeing with what was actually said, or with something that was not said?

Are you too untilligent to see that mythological "rellgious precepts" can cause both Islamic terrorism, and Jewish terrorism manifesting in illegal occuption of territory?

I am just asking you if you disagree with what Yadda said.

Errrr - it's a bit hard for you to tell, is it?

Yadda said pointing to the evils of "religious precepts" in not hate speech".

I pointed out the egregious "religious precepts" in Yadda's idealized OT, religious precepts which result in evil outcome, just as via the Koran.

Oh dear, the Conservative "crippled-brain' problem is in evidence again.

Whether these egregious religious precepts are hate sppeech or not is irrelevant to the evil consequences of the said precepts.

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You have a happy of calling people idiots when you actually agree with what they say.

(Sigh...) - the travails ot teaching the ideologically-crippled conservative brain...

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #17 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:50pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:55am:

Breaking into a military base and damaging military equipment kind of stretches the definition of peace activist.

Damage? A tiny bit of spray paint. You call that damage?

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Especially when they do so on behalf of terrorist organisations.

Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #18 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:55pm

Yadda, threads in the Islam forum have nothing to do with this topic.

Israel is the terrorist, not Palestine Action.

Palestine Action has never harmed a single human being, whereas Israel’s genocide in Gaza has killed or maimed at least 200,000 people, including tens of thousands of children. This constitutes state terror by any standard. These brave and dedicated activists are acting to prevent it because their government refuses to.

We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #19 - Jul 1^st, 2025 at 11:49pm

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:55pm:

Yadda, threads in the Islam forum have nothing to do with this topic.

Israel is the terrorist, not Palestine Action.

Palestine Action has never harmed a single human being, whereas Israel’s genocide in Gaza has killed or maimed at least 200,000 people, including tens of thousands of children.

This constitutes state terror by any standard.

These brave and dedicated activists are acting to prevent it because their government refuses to.

Gaza is a WAR ZONE.

HAMAS, itself, >> INTENTIONALLY << made Gaza a WAR ZONE......on Oct 7, 2023.

When HAMAS want the death [conflict] in Gaza to end,
HAMAS can end the war in Gaza, in a moment.

With just simple declaration........and HAMAS could end the whole conflict in Gaza.

"A war never ends by one side declaring victory, but by one side admitting defeat."

- Ahmad Shah Massoud

Respect.

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wombatwoody wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:55pm:

........Israel’s genocide in Gaza has killed or maimed at least 200,000 people,
including tens of thousands of children.

Peace loving.....followers of ISLAM.....is an oxymoron.

Or rather........IT IS JUST A BIG FAT LIE.

ISLAM, is a deceitful, murderous death cult....
who's 'maniacal' 'religious' doctrines, have corrupted the psyche of all those persons....
who have fallen under its thrall.

thrall = =
1 the state of being in another’s power.
2 a slave, servant, or captive.

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IN MOSLEM MAJORITY NATIONS, MOSLEM CHILDREN, ARE TAUGHT
'HOW TO PRACTICE ISLAM'
AND FROM CHILDHOOD.......
AND ARE BEING URGED TO DEVELOP THE DESIRE TO BECOME AN ISLAMIC MARTYR ------ >

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621945743/7#7

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"Our children are our glory and honor,
they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,
and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."

- Palestinian Authority - TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN
HOW THEY OUGHT TO PRACTICE ISLAM.
source - https://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian...

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #20 - Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 30^th, 2025 at 4:00pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:29am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 29^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

freediver wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:47am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 28^th, 2025 at 8:13am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 10:47am:

[quote author=Yadda link=1750797928/7#7 date=1750980856]

n.b.
ISLAM promotes >> hatred << of ALL non-moslems
AS A RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

No one should imagine [or claim].....
that my assertion above is an example of 'HATE SPEECH'.

You are uneducable.

Jehovah is "a jealous God".....

The "Peoples of the Book" are fighting amongst themselves. and endangering all of us.

Are you disagreeing with what was actually said, or with something that was not said?

Are you too untilligent to see that mythological "rellgious precepts" can cause both Islamic terrorism, and Jewish terrorism manifesting in illegal occuption of territory?

I am just asking you if you disagree with what Yadda said.

Errrr - it's a bit hard for you to tell, is it?

Yes. You are more slippery than an eel.

Do you agree or disagree with what Yadda said?

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 1^st, 2025 at 10:50pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2025 at 6:55am:

Breaking into a military base and damaging military equipment kind of stretches the definition of peace activist.

Damage? A tiny bit of spray paint. You call that damage?

Yes.

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Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

Would you mind explaining your Jewish conspiracy for us?

People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #21 - Jul 4^th, 2025 at 8:55am

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am:

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Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

Would you mind explaining your Jewish conspiracy for us?

Why must I keep repeating myself?

Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009 that “Hamas…is Israel’s creation.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http:/online.wsj.com/article/SB123275...

And Hamas is financed by Israel:

https://news.sky.com/video/benjamin-netanyahu-allowed-millions-of-dollars-to-go-...

And:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621916534/214#214

We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #22 - Jul 4^th, 2025 at 10:48am

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 8:55am:

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am:

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Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

Would you mind explaining your Jewish conspiracy for us?

Why must I keep repeating myself?

Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009 that “Hamas…is Israel’s creation.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http:/online.wsj.com/article/SB123275...

And Hamas is financed by Israel:

https://news.sky.com/video/benjamin-netanyahu-allowed-millions-of-dollars-to-go-...

And:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1621916534/214#214

wombatwoody said......
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Avner Cohen......told the Wall Street Journal in 2009 that

“Hamas…is Israel’s creation.”

In your own source......that >> OPINION, << is postulated as an academic argument,
and not as an uncontested fact.

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JANUARY 24, 2009
How Israel Helped to Spawn Hamas

By ANDREW HIGGINS
Moshav Tekuma, Israel

......
......When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and '80s,

they seemed focused on studying the Quran,

not on confrontation with Israel.

The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya,
registering the group as a charity.

It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools.

Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.

"When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,"
says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early '90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military.

"But at the time nobody thought about the possible results."

Israeli officials who served in Gaza disagree on how much their own actions may have contributed to the rise of Hamas.

They blame the group's recent ascent on outsiders, primarily Iran.

This view is shared by the Israeli government.

"Hamas in Gaza was built by Iran as a foundation for power, and is backed through funding, through training and through the provision of advanced weapons," Mr. Olmert said last Saturday.

Hamas has denied receiving military assistance from Iran.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http:/online.wsj.com/article/SB123275...

The article seems to be suggesting....
that HAMAS was a creature of IRAN's influence.

While Israel 'officials' were merely watching HAMAS' progress....
through its early development,
into what it eventually became.

AS PER.....
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"When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,"
says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza.....as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military.

wombatwoody,

Even your argument that......
"Hamas is financed by Israel:"
is a contorted lie. !!

contort, contortion = = twist or bend out of its normal shape.

I suggest, that you read the 'facts'......which are presented.....in YOUR OWN source........
https://news.sky.com/video/benjamin-netanyahu-allowed-millions-of-dollars-to-go-...

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #23 - Jul 4^th, 2025 at 11:19am

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 4^th, 2025 at 8:55am:

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2025 at 8:51am:

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Like the one Israel created, nurtured and financed?

Would you mind explaining your Jewish conspiracy for us?

Why must I keep repeating myself?

I keep repeating myself, because you do not answer the question. You keep repeating yourself because you are afraid to answer the question. I am not asking you to copy and paste fragments of other people's sentences. I am asking you to explain your version of this grand Jewish conspiracy.

Will you do that, or do you recognise that it is too stupid to put into writing? And if you do realise that it is too stupid to commit to writing, why do you keep parroting it with fragments of other people's opinions? Or is it the case that you understand none of what you post and want us to tell you what your opinion is? Perhaps you hate Jews so much because you see yourself as a puppet, and you are forced to speak the Jews words by the cunning hand inside you? These are the things that you leave people wondering when you obsessively post your propaganda.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52748 Gender:	Re: For supporters of Israel Reply #24 - Jul 4^th, 2025 at 11:31am It's a sign of weakness and someone (like the Lefties here) who knows they are losing - permanently. Wombatwoolley has no cards.
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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #25 - Jul 6^th, 2025 at 8:04am

FD & Yadda, if you think the words of an experienced diplomat and former Israeli ambassador to the US (Danny Ayalon), and reports from the MSM, are a mere 'opinion' you need your heads read.

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Israel and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years.

Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies.

Israel's support for Hamas "was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative," said a former senior CIA official.

https://www.upi.com/Defense-News/2002/06/18/Analysis-Hamas-history-tied-to-Israe...

We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50550 At my desk.	Re: For supporters of Israel Reply #26 - Jul 6^th, 2025 at 9:59am What is this grand Jewish conspiracy rattling round in your head woody? Mr Ayalon won't shed any light on it. Can you, or does it keep disappearing whenever you look to closely?
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MattE Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 314 Gender:	Re: For supporters of Israel Reply #27 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:42am These innocent people have been targeted by Hamas for too long.
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Re: For supporters of Israel
Reply #28 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:56pm

freediver wrote on Jul 6^th, 2025 at 9:59am:

What is this grand Jewish conspiracy rattling round in your head woody? Mr Ayalon won't shed any light on it. Can you, or does it keep disappearing whenever you look to closely?

What part of,

Israel "aided Hamas directly -- the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization)," said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic Studies.

do you not understand?

We are benefiting from ... the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.

Benjamin Netanyahu, quoted in Ma’ariv, 16 April 2008

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wombatwoody Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3362 Wombat NSW	Re: For supporters of Israel Reply #29 - Jul 10^th, 2025 at 5:57pm MattE wrote on Jul 8^th, 2025 at 8:42am: https://i.ibb.co/C32y5KQW/Screenshot-20250708-083910.png These innocent people have been targeted by Hamas for too long. Bullcrap. https://www.aljazeera.com/video/start-here/2025/7/1/gaza-aid-killings-start-here
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