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Baronvonrort
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We will attack Iran
Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:53pm
 
I wonder which Presidential candidate said this  Roll Eyes

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Reply #1 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:58pm
 

Context, dear boy.

You missed this bit:

“If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?”

An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president. But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel.


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Reply #2 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:20pm
 
I love how Baron just admitted attacking Iran was wrong.

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Reply #3 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:41pm
 
I see. So Baron takes deletes Hillary's words and takes her quotes out of context to justify his DL's invasion of Iran.

Classy.

But I'm curious. Didn't Baron pretend DL was the only prez to start no new endless wars?

Didn't he say DL's such a great negotiator, he'd stop the Ukraine war on Day One, get the Israeli hostages back from Hamas, renegotiate Obama's Iranian nuclear deal, stop WWIII and create peace in our time?

So cute. It just goes to show, this is what they really wanted. For all their handwringing over Hillary, turns out they wanted a real war monger all along.

Oh, how they went crazy about Hillary's flack jacket. Then there was Obama's drone strikes - so unfair! Sleepy Joe approved missiles for Ukraine - military industrial complex!

Now a US prez unilaterally invades a country without any threat or pretext, drops 16 GBU-57 Massive Ordinance Penetrators, two dozen Tomahawk cruise missiles, kills an untold number of civilians and starts a new Middle Eastern forever war, it's whatabout Hillary.

I don't know about you, Greggery and Sad, but I'm beginning to smell a rat.

Ever get the feeling?
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Reply #4 - Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:51pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:20pm:
I love how Baron just admitted attacking Iran was wrong.

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Can you cite where i said that ya dopey khunt?

Obama sent pallets of cash Trump sent 30 Tomahawks and 14 bunker busters.

The IDF took out all of Irans air defences there was no risk to US planes doing this.
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 12:56am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:51pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:20pm:
I love how Baron just admitted attacking Iran was wrong.

Fu
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Can you cite where i said that ya dopey khunt?

Obama sent pallets of cash Trump sent 30 Tomahawks and 14 bunker busters.

The IDF took out all of Irans air defences there was no risk to US planes doing this.


That's nice, Baron. You've clearly factored in the fact that Obama's policy deterred Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions, according to the same agency you've referenced, and DL's policy has created a new endless war.

It's a question of values, I guess. The other posters in this thread prefer truth and peace. You want lies and war.

You want to change Hillary's words around, repeat lies about pallets of cash and trick the leftards into supporting a new endless war.

We want honest political dialogue with real facts and we want everybody in the world to be happy and safe, not blown back to the stone age because you don't like their choice of religion.

That's a significant difference of values I'll admit, but at least we know where we're all coming from.

That's a good thing, yes? We're all friends here, no?
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Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 1:08am
 
they're all the same piece of sh_t it's just trump is the current piece of sh_t.  another mid-east war for f_ck knows what is the last thing anyone needs
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Reply #7 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 1:18am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:51pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:20pm:
I love how Baron just admitted attacking Iran was wrong.

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Can you cite where i said that ya dopey khunt?


Can you cite where Hillary said that she plans to attack Iran if she becomes president?

Of course you can't. It was just your inference when you pretended Hillary said it.

Semiotics 101, innit.

Hillary wrong, propping up the military industrial complex wrong, mindlessly attacking countries for no reason wrong.

Terrible. Worse even than using a private email server as Secretary of State, which you said was pretty wrong too.

Until Ivanka did it as Senior Presidential Advisor, then your DL got caught with 24,000 classified records stashed in boxes marked Top Secret on the ballroom stage at Mar a Lago. You can't talk up Hillary's emails anymore, dear, so we're stuck with lies like this.

Now you're telling Sad to cite where you said it was wrong, you naughty old thing.

Look, you'll be off in a sec, but before you go, can we at least get your admission that you wanted your DL to invade Iran all along?

Cheers.
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Reply #8 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 2:00am
 
JC Denton wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 1:08am:
they're all the same piece of sh_t it's just trump is the current piece of sh_t.  another mid-east war for f_ck knows what is the last thing anyone needs


They're all as bad as each other, is it?

No, dear. Hillary was asked a hypothetical about what she'd do as prez if Iran ever invaded Israel.

Baron brought it up because his Dear Leader has, six months in, gone and attacked Iran. Iran didn't invade Israel. Iran didn't present any perceivable threat to anybody. This is the first time in its history that the US has ever publicly launched an attack on this scale without prior attacks to its military or civilians, approval from the UN Security Council or a declaration of war with Congressional approval.

Presidents have famously ordered covert attacks. Nixon dropped more TNT on Cambodia than the US dropped on Germany in WWII, but it was hardly a popular action, now was it? To this day, it's held up as a war crime.

Nixon came to office with a pledge to end the Vietnam war. Trump came to office with a pledge to not only start no new endless wars, but to end all foreign wars as well. It was a core election promise, along with the promise to fight inflation, fix the economy, pay off the debt and not make any cuts to Medicaid or social security.

You know how he's going with the latter promises. The US is currently predicted to go into recession later in the year. GDP is down. Unemployment is up. His tax bill will add $2 trillion to the debt, cut Medicaid and social security, and give tax cuts to billionaires who don't need them.

No president has broken so many promises six months in. Our own dollar is down massively in response to his tariffs. The Iran bombings will effect everybody. China is now perfectly justified to invade Taiwan and take the Pacific. America has no longer has a right to lecture anybody.

Trump is no longer just a clown act, he's fucking global trade, currencies, the oil supply, shipping routes, security and the entire global rules-based order we all rely upon.

So no, JC, they're not all as bad as each other. Baron might have started this thread to pretend otherwise, but it took one post to bring his entire case down.
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Reply #9 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:27am
 
For all this talk about peace prizes, negotiating and deal-making, Obama was the only one to get Iran to reduce their Uranium enrichment in a diplomatic way.

Diplomacy.

Trump bombed them, made sure they're an enemy and invited retaliation, which they have.

War.

All because Trump, the deal maker, COULDN'T NEGOTIATE a deal with them after cancelling Obama's deal that was actually working.

And we're supposed to cheer Trump for this, and believe all the lies people like Frank keep spinning about how bad Obama's deal was when they blatantly lie about what it entailed?

Sure, yeah, great plan...



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Reply #10 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:29am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:51pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 11:20pm:
I love how Baron just admitted attacking Iran was wrong.

Fu
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dumb arse...


Can you cite where i said that ya dopey khunt?

Obama sent pallets of cash Trump sent 30 Tomahawks and 14 bunker busters.

The IDF took out all of Irans air defences there was no risk to US planes doing this.


So you're supporting Hillary then ya dopey c
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t?
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Reply #11 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:31am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:58pm:
Context, dear boy.

You missed this bit:

“If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?”

An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president. But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel.


Ah. So Hillary would have waited until after they nuked Israel. Very polite of her.
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Reply #12 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:42am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:58pm:
Context, dear boy.

You missed this bit:

“If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?”

An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president. But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel.


Ah. So Hillary would have waited until after they nuked Israel. Very polite of her.


Hypothetical arguments require someone to determine factors unknown to reach a conclusion....Do you think if Hillary knew Iran was going to strike Isreal with a Nuke she would wait until after the attack....You really are an idiot mate!!!

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Reply #13 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:53am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:42am:
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:58pm:
Context, dear boy.

You missed this bit:

“If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?”

An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president. But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel.


Ah. So Hillary would have waited until after they nuked Israel. Very polite of her.


Hypothetical arguments require someone to determine factors unknown to reach a conclusion....Do you think if Hillary knew Iran was going to strike Isreal with a Nuke she would wait until after the attack....You really are an idiot mate!!!

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Well that's what the whole world was doing. This Iran thing has been going on for decades, and the whole time they were developing nukes, giving the IAEA the runaround, and telling everyone they will destroy Israel.
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Reply #14 - Jun 24th, 2025 at 11:09am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:53am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:42am:
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2025 at 10:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2025 at 10:58pm:
Context, dear boy.

You missed this bit:

“If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?”

An out-of-context clip from a 2008 interview with then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is circulating on Facebook. It shows her saying the U.S. “will attack Iran” if she becomes president. But she was responding to a question about a hypothetical nuclear attack by Iran on Israel.


Ah. So Hillary would have waited until after they nuked Israel. Very polite of her.


Hypothetical arguments require someone to determine factors unknown to reach a conclusion....Do you think if Hillary knew Iran was going to strike Isreal with a Nuke she would wait until after the attack....You really are an idiot mate!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well that's what the whole world was doing. This Iran thing has been going on for decades, and the whole time they were developing nukes, giving the IAEA the runaround, and telling everyone they will destroy Israel.


There sould have been a deal with Iran to keep inspections of it's nuclear facilities in place....Unfortunatly Trump scrapped that deal and relied on speculation instead....Then when US intelligence declared Iran did not have a Nuke Trump told them they were wrong and bombed them anyway....Better safe than sorry hey Freediver....Of course if there is a full blown war over these attacks you will claim it is the Democrats fault for not starting the war sooner....Going on your analogy when will the US attack North Korea for the same reason....War is now diplomacy in the MAGA world....Strike first and ask questions later???

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