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No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace
Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:32am

No US wars: Albanese must choose peace
2025-06-22
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President Donald Trump's claim today to have bombed Iran directly is such a fundamental threat to world peace that the Albanese Government must immediately take steps to distance Australia from these attacks and condemn them.

Australia cannot be dragged into another brutal US war in the Middle East. President Trump's claim to have bombed nuclear sites in Iran is a blatant breach of international law.

The Greens join with millions of Australians to oppose any involvement of Australia in the ongoing violence and call on the Albanese Government to take material action towards peace.

The Albanese Government must under no circumstances let the US re-fuel or use Australian airspace to perpetuate the bombing of Iran, and all Australian Defence personnel on secondment in the US military must be withdrawn, including the dozens on US nuclear submarines.

The International Atomic Energy Agency has made clear that there is no evidence Iran was moving into a nuclear weapon capability.

Greens leader Senator Larissa Waters said:

“This is a terrifying and catastrophic escalation by the USA, and Australia must condemn it.

“From Iraq to Afghanistan, we have seen Australia follow the US into devastating and brutal wars that have done untold damage to the people of the Middle East. We know that you cannot bomb your way to peace.

“Australia must always work for peace and de-escalation. Australia is not powerless, and we cannot be involved in another brutal war in the Middle East.

“Australia must take this opportunity to get out of AUKUS, have an independent foreign policy that centres peace, and must not allow the use of Australian US military bases like Pine Gap in this conflict.

“Only when countries like Australia push back and hold to principles and international law and back them up with material actions, will there be a chance for peace.”

Senator David Shoebridge, Greens spokesperson on Defence and Foreign Affairs, said:

“The world is at a crossroads and the Albanese Government must choose to be a force for peace not for war.

“With US President Trump's bombing of Iran showing clearly that he is no friend of peace, and the Albanese Government must distance Australia from these actions.

“That means ending the AUKUS agreement, prohibiting the use of US military bases in Australia, including Pine Gap, from being used in this conflict, and clearly opposing military action by the US and Israel against Iran.

“Like every war, the cost will not be carried by governments, but by people, families and communities who face destruction.

“The impact of war is always inflicted on ordinary people. The Iranian people, who currently face oppression under the Iranian regime, are only put at further risk of violence and persecution by these US and Israeli attacks.

“The world must now isolate the US and Israel and come together through peace and diplomacy to end this war and support a pathway that protects the people of Iran.

“The Greens for nearly two years have joined with millions of Australians in calling for our country to be a force for peace and to oppose the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

“The Albanese Government has politically attacked those calling for peace, and this has only empowered bullies like Trump and Netanyahu, who again respond with bombs and killing.”

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 88396 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace Reply #1 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:44am Oh, well - when you go around biting the toes of the Civilised World - one day that sleeping giant will wake up.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145366 Gender:	Re: No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace Reply #2 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for. It'll be interesting to see what he does.
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Reply #3 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country

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There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

Yet today we see the country that once stood firm now bend with disturbing ease.

In recent months Australia has engaged in the sort of foreign policy that would make a mid-tier EU bureaucrat blush. It sanctions Israeli officials while Hamas digs tunnels under kindergartens. It lectures Jerusalem on restraint while Iran perfects its centrifuges. And it boasts of resettling Palestinians in numbers that suggest some bizarre form of moral reparations, as though absorbing a population steeped in Hamas propaganda were a substitute for strategic clarity.

This isn’t policy. It’s posturing. And worse, it’s cowardice dressed in the robes of diplomacy.

At the helm of this slow-motion retreat are Anthony Albanese and Penny Wong, a pair who appear to believe Australia’s international role is to apologise on behalf of the civilised world, while never quite saying for whom.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/this-isnt-policy-its-cowardice-dress...

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Reply #5 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:03pm

Just in, from the Albanese Government:

"We have been clear that Iran’s nuclear and ballistic missile program has been a threat to international peace and security," A government spokesperson has written in a statement.

"We note the US President’s statement that now is the time for peace.

"The security situation in the region is highly volatile.

"We continue to call for de-escalation, dialogue and diplomacy.

"Australians in Israel and Iran and the region should continue to monitor public safety information provided by local authorities, including to shelter in place when required. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade will be communicating directly with registered Australians about preparations for assisted departures."

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Reply #7 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger orf, ignorant, stupid old troll.

Around 3,300 Australians directly contributed to D-Day efforts. Some 2,800 Australian airmen from the Royal Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force provided crucial aerial support and about 500 sailors served on Royal Navy vessels supporting the invasion.

Sadly, 13 Australians, all members of the Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, lost their lives on D-Day. Many more Australian airmen died in support operations prior to and after the landings.
https://www.dva.gov.au/news/latest-stories/recognising-australias-involvement-d-...
https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/wars-and-missions/world-war-ii-1939-1945/events/w...

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Reply #8 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:20pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger orf, ignorant, stupid old troll.

Around 3,300 Australians directly contributed to D-Day efforts. Some 2,800 Australian airmen from the Royal Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force provided crucial aerial support and about 500 sailors served on Royal Navy vessels supporting the invasion.

Sadly, 13 Australians, all members of the Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, lost their lives on D-Day. Many more Australian airmen died in support operations prior to and after the landings.
https://www.dva.gov.au/news/latest-stories/recognising-australias-involvement-d-...
https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/wars-and-missions/world-war-ii-1939-1945/events/w...

"They stormed Normandy ..." Undecided

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Reply #9 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:47pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger orf, ignorant, stupid old troll.

Around 3,300 Australians directly contributed to D-Day efforts. Some 2,800 Australian airmen from the Royal Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force provided crucial aerial support and about 500 sailors served on Royal Navy vessels supporting the invasion.

Sadly, 13 Australians, all members of the Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, lost their lives on D-Day. Many more Australian airmen died in support operations prior to and after the landings.
https://www.dva.gov.au/news/latest-stories/recognising-australias-involvement-d-...
https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/wars-and-missions/world-war-ii-1939-1945/events/w...

All though were not, "Australian forces" under Australian command, they were part of the RAF and the Royal Navy, not as part of a RAAF or RAN force, which is essentially the point I was making, not that there were no individuals serving there, Soren. There is a definition of "force" which you seem not to understand but, hey, what should we expect from a life long Civvie? Run along back to your rock. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145366 Gender:	Re: No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace Reply #10 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:52pm Sussan Ley has come out in support of war. She supports Trump's attacks.
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Leroy Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 3678 Gender:	Re: No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace Reply #11 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:09pm You either support Trump or you support the Ayatollah of Iran. We know who Greg supports.
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Reply #12 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger orf, ignorant, stupid old troll.

Around 3,300 Australians directly contributed to D-Day efforts. Some 2,800 Australian airmen from the Royal Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force provided crucial aerial support and about 500 sailors served on Royal Navy vessels supporting the invasion.

Sadly, 13 Australians, all members of the Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, lost their lives on D-Day. Many more Australian airmen died in support operations prior to and after the landings.
https://www.dva.gov.au/news/latest-stories/recognising-australias-involvement-d-...
https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/wars-and-missions/world-war-ii-1939-1945/events/w...

All though were not, "Australian forces" under Australian command, they were part of the RAF and the Royal Navy, not as part of a RAAF or RAN force, which is essentially the point I was making, not that there were no individuals serving there, Soren. There is a definition of "force" which you seem not to understand but, hey, what should we expect from a life long Civvie? Run along back to your rock. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger off, ignorant, stupid troll. There is no mention of "force" in my quote. You are just arguing with the shrieking harpies that torment you in your own befogged imagination.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 145366 Gender:	Re: No US Wars, Albanese Must Choose Peace Reply #13 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:12pm Leroy wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:09pm: You either support Trump or you support the Ayatollah of Iran. No. You can oppose both.
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Reply #14 - Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:13pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 2:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:47pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 1:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 12:52pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:58am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2025 at 11:48am:

Not the Sunday morning Albo was hoping for.

It'll be interesting to see what he does.

Let us cast off the illusions. Australia is no longer a reliable ally. In truth, it is no longer even a serious country.

There was a time not long ago, in historical terms, when Australia understood the stakes of civilisation. When it fought not for territory or dominion but for values. Australians died at Gallipoli beside the British, not out of geographic necessity but because they knew instinctively that Western civilisation was worth defending. They stormed Normandy, held the line in Korea, endured Vietnam and Afghanistan because freedom is not a default setting but a prize maintained by those with the courage to act.

There were no Australian forces at Normandy, Soren. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger orf, ignorant, stupid old troll.

Around 3,300 Australians directly contributed to D-Day efforts. Some 2,800 Australian airmen from the Royal Air Force and the Royal Australian Air Force provided crucial aerial support and about 500 sailors served on Royal Navy vessels supporting the invasion.

Sadly, 13 Australians, all members of the Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force, lost their lives on D-Day. Many more Australian airmen died in support operations prior to and after the landings.
https://www.dva.gov.au/news/latest-stories/recognising-australias-involvement-d-...
https://anzacportal.dva.gov.au/wars-and-missions/world-war-ii-1939-1945/events/w...

All though were not, "Australian forces" under Australian command, they were part of the RAF and the Royal Navy, not as part of a RAAF or RAN force, which is essentially the point I was making, not that there were no individuals serving there, Soren. There is a definition of "force" which you seem not to understand but, hey, what should we expect from a life long Civvie? Run along back to your rock. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bugger off, ignorant, stupid troll. There is no mention of "force" in my quote. You are just arguing with the shrieking harpies that torment you in your own befogged imagination.

"They stormed Normandy ..."

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