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Reply #15 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:55pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What am I afraid of?

I am afraid for the women and children being raped and murdered and for the people who have to see all the horror.

More children now are being taken into care because of the violence.


How about you volunteer your women, your children to be take away without permission and consign them to a hellhole, "Boris"?  Or are we to exist forever in your Twilight Zone?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are deluded.

https://djirra.org.au/missing-and-murdered-report/

One message has always been clear – our women and children are not safe.

For over 2 years, First Nations people and family violence experts from across this country made 87
written submissions and shared many hours of testimony to this Inquiry.

Many First Nations people trusted and bravely opened their hearts to re-tell stories of heartache,
loss, and of being failed by the systems that are supposed to keep them and their loved ones safe.

Our people told our truths.

“Truth is uncomfortable. It can be painful. But it must be spoken, written down, and heard. And
governments must act upon it,” says Djirra CEO and Change the Record Co-Chair Antoinette
Braybrook AM.

“You cannot un-hear us now. We are watching, and we will continue to demand change.”
“This must not be yet another report that sits on a shelf gathering dust.”

Djirra is looking to our national, state and territory leaders to invest in bipartisan solutions and real
change that puts our women’s and children’s safety first.





DATA

The recommendations do not compel action to address the massive gaps in data that policy and law
makers use to make decisions that directly affect our women’s and children’s safety.

There is no accurate data on the actual number of Aboriginal women and children who have been
murdered or brutally disappeared across this country.

Closing the Gap data, which is intended to show progress in reducing violence against our women
and children, is now over 6 years out of date – this is unacceptable. You cannot manage what you
don’t measure.

When our experiences are “counted”, they are almost always tallied through a deficit lens. This data
does not tell our story. It does not capture our strength, resilience and courage as Aboriginal women.

Djirra and other First Nations led organisations must be resourced to collect, analyse and evaluate
our own data to inform government policies so that what we know works, our self-determined
solutions, are invested in.
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Reply #16 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:13pm
 
Australian Government response to the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs References Committee report: Missing and murdered First Nations women and children
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National Indigenous Australians Agency

Publication abstract:
This response is to the Senate Legal and Constitutional Affairs References Committee’s Inquiry into Missing and Murdered First Nations women and children report that was tabled on 15 August 2024. This response discusses violence against women and children, missing and murdered women and children, sexual violence and racism.

https://www.niaa.gov.au/resource-centre/australian-government-response-senate-le...
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Reply #17 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:19pm
 
So, then, rather than fix the system that has failed these people you just want to remove them from their society, their culture, their families, their siblings?  Gee, you're all heart, "Boris".  You are the reason that the system failed.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:06pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
So, then, rather than fix the system that has failed these people you just want to remove them from their society, their culture, their families, their siblings?  Gee, you're all heart, "Boris".  You are the reason that the system failed.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

It’s people, stupid, not ‘the system’

No amount of extra bureaucracy, law, or Aboriginal control is going to keep alleged criminals and criminals out of police custody or prison. Our commissioners and politicians know that they are dealing with a remnant and collapsing subset of Aboriginal society. Most Aborigines don’t break the law. Most Aborigines thrive in ‘the system’. Blaming ‘the system’ is dumb.

Here is an insight that the Commissioners should consider. In 2023, 86% of Aboriginal mothers giving birth had an ex-nuptial birth in Australia (including ‘traditional’ marriage). It was 96% in the Northern Territory. Worse, the ex-nuptial birth rate, where paternity was not acknowledged, was 21% in Australia and 45% in the Northern Territory. These statistics reveal people in distress, a society in free fall.

Young Aboriginal people are struggling to find their way in their society. Having children is sometimes the method they choose, but mostly it does not work. When will the human rights and Aboriginal Industry treat vulnerable people as humans and not idealised identities or vessels of rights? These are primarily young people who will not be saved by Aboriginal collectivisation. Interventions to save them must be conventional. Get children to school by whatever means. Give girls something else to do than see childbirth as a career, and boys something else to do than to pretend they are men when they impregnate girls.

Gary Johns is the principal of Close the Gap Research.
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Reply #19 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:10pm
 
Their culture, their traditions are what have harmed them for tens of thousands of years in isolation like those Pitcairn Islanders ten years back who fell into child abusing ways because no-one else was around to stop them.
The bad things about their culture and traditions far outweigh their good things. The proof was in their inability to change and evolve due to such low... morality.
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Reply #20 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:49pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It would seem someone else is afraid of losing another lucrative meal ticket. Tsk, tsk, tsk ...  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

You dickhead.
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Reply #21 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:52pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:23pm:
They were never stolen they were saved from murder or rape or violence.

Now even more than ever


Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


retarded & an imbecile - is that an oxymoron?

Well maybe - but Bwyan definitely is the moron bit.
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Reply #22 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 3:55pm:
Boris wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 2:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 11:09am:
What are you afraid of, "Boris"?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What am I afraid of?

I am afraid for the women and children being raped and murdered and for the people who have to see all the horror.

More children now are being taken into care because of the violence.


How about you volunteer your women, your children to be take away without permission and consign them to a hellhole, "Boris"?  Or are we to exist forever in your Twilight Zone?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Such an idiot you are Bwyan .... they were taken out of hell holes you complete imbecile.
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Reply #23 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 5:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
So, then, rather than fix the system that has failed these people you just want to remove them from their society, their culture, their families, their siblings?  Gee, you're all heart, "Boris".  You are the reason that the system failed.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



And you have nothing but irrelevant BS like this.

It's you who should be coming up with answers but you have exactly none.... meanwhile $40 billion a year(plus) is spent on Aboriginal & Islander programs, health, education & employment opportunities ...

and all you can do is play the racist, bigot card without an actual clue of reality & how to fix the problems that exist despite all the aid given.

You are an ignorant old virtue signaling softcock without an ounce of genuine honesty.

A hiding behind religious piety hypocrite.
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Reply #24 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:30pm
 
Since they weren't 'stolen' but removed for protection, the fear should be that the records remain available..... the truth might break out.
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Reply #25 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 6:39pm
 
Britain had its labour class in their own Convicts.
The pre-Trump America and it's 'free' settler colonialism here didn't.
Thus they invent the 'black victimhood' so they can.
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Reply #26 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 7:30pm
 
I find it interesting that none of are willing to address what the Indigenous Australians said in the Bringing them Home Report.  Why?  Are you afraid to face the reality of what your policies wrought?  Afraid too face what happened to Indigenous Australians?  Afraid to show some form of that mysterious trait "Boris" called empathy?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 8:04pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 7:30pm:
I find it interesting that none of are willing to address what the Indigenous Australians said in the Bring them Home Report.  Why?  Are you afraid to face the reality of what your policies wrought?  Afraid too face what happened to Indigenous Australians?  Afraid to show some form of that mysterious trait "Boris" called empathy?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

What DID they say?  Or rather, what do you think they said.

Rolls your eyes at that.
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Reply #28 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 8:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 7:30pm:
I find it interesting that none of are willing to address what the Indigenous Australians said in the Bring them Home Report.  Why?  Are you afraid to face the reality of what your policies wrought?  Afraid too face what happened to Indigenous Australians?  Afraid to show some form of that mysterious trait "Boris" called empathy?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Is that one of those 'truthtelling' things - where only one side is considered worth listening to and evidence of records and such are not allowed?  You know - Appin Massacre of Fourteen Aborigines!  Just forget to say they were all men in arms who had already killed sixteen Settlers including women and children, and their women and children were taken into safekeeping instead of being mindlessly slaughtered ...

That kind of truthtelling?
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Reply #29 - Jun 19th, 2025 at 10:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 19th, 2025 at 7:30pm:
I find it interesting that none of are willing to address what the Indigenous Australians said in the Bringing them Home Report.  Why?  Are you afraid to face the reality of what your policies wrought?  Afraid too face what happened to Indigenous Australians?  Afraid to show some form of that mysterious trait "Boris" called empathy?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Not your policies Brian, have you got different policies to the rest of us. What were your policies then?.
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