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Reply #60 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 8:10pm:

People forget that, although Obama did strike a deal with the Islamic Republic, the deal allowed Iran not to have to publicly state that it was ending its nuclear weapons program... to save face and prevent a possible military coup.

People also forget that the Islamic Republic allowed weapons inspectors in and were repeatedly signed off all clear.

People haven't forgotten your DL reneged on a multilateral deal and got Islamic Republic back on the nukes. Nor will people forget that his actions have done everything to justify Iran's nuclear ambitions.

You?

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Reply #61 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:12pm

Leroy wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 7:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 7:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 7:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 6:19pm:

The IAEA reports said it all Israel didn't have to say anything.

That was a direct result of trump screwing up the deal previously made.

The art of the deal Grin

He's such a loser (and rapist).

Greg can hardly pay his rent and Trump is two time President of US, most powerful person on the planet, multi billionaire and Greg spends every day talking about him. Yes Greg Trump is such a loser.

Hi there, Leroy. Do you uphold the use of socks in your campaign against the Muselman?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Reply #62 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 6:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 5:57pm:

The Israelis would keep pretending you have nukes so they have an excuse to bomb you?

The IAEA reports said it all Israel didn't have to say anything.

Strange. Not the same IAEA that said this?

Karnal wrote on Jun 17^th, 2025 at 1:57am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 16^th, 2025 at 10:49pm:

Biden caused the Iran war those with TDS should check yourselves into a mental health facility ASAP.

Iran never complied with NPT they were always telling lies and hiding stuff.
https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-and-reports?page=2

Iran complied fully with the International Atomic Energy Agency, the only team that matters. They were tasked with inspections, they know what they're doing and Iran was fully motivated to comply. But I'm curious - why are you blaming Biden?

Up for an answer?

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Reply #63 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:33pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 8:10pm:

People forget that, although Obama did strike a deal with the Islamic Republic, the deal allowed Iran not to have to publicly state that it was ending its nuclear weapons program... to save face and prevent a possible military coup.

People also forget that the Islamic Republic allowed weapons inspectors in and were repeatedly signed off all clear.

People haven't forgotten your DL reneged on a multilateral deal and got Islamic Republic back on the nukes. Nor will people forget that his actions have done everything to justify Iran's nuclear ambitions.

You?

Me? When the deal went south, the Islamic Republic accelerated its nuclear weapons program.

Israel has moved to end the Islamic Republic with the apparent support of the vast majority of the Iranian people... That includes collectively almost all non-Persian minorities and the Persian majority.

You? The Islamic Republic would have you testing gravity from a 3-storey rooftop,

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Reply #66 - Jun 18^th, 2025 at 11:54pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:33pm:

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 9:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 8:10pm:

People forget that, although Obama did strike a deal with the Islamic Republic, the deal allowed Iran not to have to publicly state that it was ending its nuclear weapons program... to save face and prevent a possible military coup.

People also forget that the Islamic Republic allowed weapons inspectors in and were repeatedly signed off all clear.

People haven't forgotten your DL reneged on a multilateral deal and got Islamic Republic back on the nukes. Nor will people forget that his actions have done everything to justify Iran's nuclear ambitions.

You?

Me? When the deal went south, the Islamic Republic accelerated its nuclear weapons program.

Israel has moved to end the Islamic Republic with the apparent support of the vast majority of the Iranian people... That includes collectively almost all non-Persian minorities and the Persian majority.

You? The Islamic Republic would have you testing gravity from a 3-storey rooftop,

Moi?

Israel has moved to do no such thing, dear.

Israel Says Goal Is Not Iran Regime Change as Trump Vetoes Ayatollah Strike

Israel doesn't get to say which regime runs Iran, dear, just like Vlad doesn't get to decide who runs Ukraine. If I had my way, the people of Iran would get a say in their own regime, but that's just moi.

According to you, Israel is either lying, or they're war criminals.

So, what's it to be?

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Reply #67 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 12:32am

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 11:54pm:

Moi?

Israel has moved to do no such thing, dear.

Israel Says Goal Is Not Iran Regime Change as Trump Vetoes Ayatollah Strike

Israel doesn't get to say which regime runs Iran, dear, just like Vlad doesn't get to decide who runs Ukraine. If I had my way, the people of Iran would get a say in their own regime, but that's just moi.

According to you, Israel is either lying, or they're war criminals.

So, what's it to be?

Regime change, in favour of a fully democratic government, is the best guarantee of ending the threat to Israel, either from Iran itself or through its proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, not to mention other designated terrorist groups around the world.

This is the outcome Israel expects will occur without having to assassinate the chief mullah (although his assassination would hasten the end).

The Islamic Republic will lose face among its military the second it ends its nuclear weapons program, either voluntarily or by force. Without the full support of the military, no government can govern.

Already, it's clear that some of Iran's military is collaborating with Israel's Mossad, so the end will be soon for the Islamic Republic.

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Reply #68 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 12:42am

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 11:54pm:

Israel doesn't get to say which regime runs Iran, dear, just like Vlad doesn't get to decide who runs Ukraine. If I had my way, the people of Iran would get a say in their own regime, but that's just moi.

According to you, Israel is either lying, or they're war criminals.

So, what's it to be?

Here's some homework for you... As Iran already has a President, is the Ayatollah Ali Khamaeini protected under international law?

Which role is legally recognised internationally as Iran's head of state?

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Reply #69 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 1:15am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 12:32am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 18^th, 2025 at 11:54pm:

Moi?

Israel has moved to do no such thing, dear.

Israel Says Goal Is Not Iran Regime Change as Trump Vetoes Ayatollah Strike

Israel doesn't get to say which regime runs Iran, dear, just like Vlad doesn't get to decide who runs Ukraine. If I had my way, the people of Iran would get a say in their own regime, but that's just moi.

According to you, Israel is either lying, or they're war criminals.

So, what's it to be?

Regime change, in favour of a fully democratic government, is the best guarantee of ending the threat to Israel, either from Iran itself or through its proxies, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, not to mention other designated terrorist groups around the world.

This is the outcome Israel expects will occur without having to assassinate the chief mullah (although his assassination would hasten the end).

The Islamic Republic will lose face among its military the second it ends its nuclear weapons program, either voluntarily or by force. Without the full support of the military, no government can govern.

Already, it's clear that some of Iran's military is collaborating with Israel's Mossad, so the end will be soon for the Islamic Republic.

How's Iraq and Afghanistan going, Meister?

More curiously, why does Bibi, currently up on charges of corruption and killing Gazans, get to decide?

The more Bibi kills, the more Iranians will defend their regime. He's currently indiscriminately killing Iranians. Who do you think they'd support - Bibi or the Mullahs?

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Reply #70 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 1:27am

Karnal wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 1:15am:

How's Iraq and Afghanistan going, Meister?

More curiously, why does Bibi, currently up on charges of corruption and killing Gazans, get to decide?

The more Bibi kills, the more Iranians will defend their regime. He's currently indiscriminately killing Iranians. Who do you think they'd support - Bibi or the Mullahs?

Deflections aside, I'd bet the Iranian people. particularly its minorities, which collectively comprise 39% of Iran's population, and a significant percentage of Persians, if not the majority, would dance in the ashes of the regime, regardless of how it collapsed or who collapsed it.

The question is not whether the Islamic Republic should be annihilated, it's who is a uniting enough figure to stabilise the country after the mullahs' regime has been brought down... So far, the only name publicly mentioned is Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi.

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Reply #71 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 3:42am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 1:27am:

Karnal wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 1:15am:

How's Iraq and Afghanistan going, Meister?

More curiously, why does Bibi, currently up on charges of corruption and killing Gazans, get to decide?

The more Bibi kills, the more Iranians will defend their regime. He's currently indiscriminately killing Iranians. Who do you think they'd support - Bibi or the Mullahs?

Deflections aside, I'd bet the Iranian people. particularly its minorities, which collectively comprise 39% of Iran's population, and a significant percentage of Persians, if not the majority, would dance in the ashes of the regime, regardless of how it collapsed or who collapsed it.

The question is not whether the Islamic Republic should be annihilated, it's who is a uniting enough figure to stabilise the country after the mullahs' regime has been brought down... So far, the only name publicly mentioned is Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi.

I see. Don't want to answer the question, eh?

No worries. How do you think Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi would fare if he was installed by Bobi, after he turns Iran into the next Gaza?

That's a new question. Try that one instead, Meister.

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Reply #72 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 5:23am

Sorry karmal. From what Sam Harris says, and he is a deep thinker. The Iranian people are way more advanced then the Afghanis and gazans. They would welcome democracy and thrive.

Just look at the pictures coming out.

They are smart articulate well groomed drive good cars.
My wife works with Iranian nurses and radiographers
These people are very impressive and they despise the regime that had young women gang raped for taking off the burkha.

You need to get on the right side of history and stop reacting and start studying

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Reply #74 - Jun 19^th, 2025 at 6:04am

Marla wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 5:55am:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 19^th, 2025 at 5:23am:

You need to get on the right side of history and stop reacting and start studying

Yes, you too can have a wonderful career as a bigot and a on-line racist.

Spewing word salad like a retard is a plus.

Sign up today!

Marla - you need to go to rehab for pot addiction.

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