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Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:28am
 
Malcolm Turnbull has entered the chat. The former prime minister has been a vocal critic of the AUKUS security pact over the years.

In a tweet this morning, he questioned if it was time for the Australian parliament to "wake up".

"The UK is conducting a review of AUKUS. The US DoD is conducting a review of AUKUS. But Australia, which has the most at stake, has no review.

"Our parliament to date has been the least curious and least informed. Time to wake up?"
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:56am
 

https://www.9news.com.au/national/aukus-pact-pentagon-reviewing-trilateral-deal-...

Ex-Trump advisor warns AUKUS exit would be 'catastrophic' for US


By Adam Vidler
7:56am Jun 12, 2025

One of the chief pillars of the agreement from Australia's perspective was the decision for Canberra to purchase nuclear-powered submarines in a $368 billion deal as an enhanced deterrent.

However, broader technology and defence sharing was also enshrined in the agreement.
John Bolton, who was the White House national security advisor in the first Trump White House from 2018-2019, said he was "very disturbed" by news of the review.
"The AUKUS deal was one of the Biden administration's biggest achievements from the US perspective, and even to call it into question in the form of a review is a bad signal of the of the ultimate intention by the Trump administration," Bolton told Today.
"I don't think they're reviewing it to consider increasing the size of the deal. I think it's more a question of how much of a downsize they're looking at, including potentially total cancellation, which would be catastrophic, a huge mistake for the US with enormous consequences, obviously, for Australia and the UK."


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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #4 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:02am
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:01am:
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If Trump stops AUKUS it will save us $368 billion.
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Reply #5 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:04am
 
Speaking of parliamentary reviews, Greens defence spokesperson David Shoebridge is demanding the government use this moment as chance for Australia's parliament to take a closer look at the AUKUS pact.

"It's time for parliament to launch a full inquiry into this dud deal and allow critics of AUKUS a seat at the table, not just a nodding bunch of Labor and Coalition members," he said in a statement.

"The USA reviewing AUKUS shows what the Greens have been warning about for years — this deal makes Australia a junior partner in America's military strategy, not an equal ally."

Shoebridge warns the US defence department may use the review to "terminate AUKUS and pocket the money already paid" or ask for more money from Australia.

"It's pretty clear what any US review into AUKUS will say: The US does not have any spare submarines to give to Australia," he says.

"While Trump considers scrapping AUKUS, Australia remains committed to spending billions each year on a deal that ties us to America's military aggression against China."


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Reply #6 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:52am
 
America sees no problem with bullying and screwing over it's Allies....First they demand Australia increase it's defence spending and now they are reviewing the deal which already favours the United States....The former Coalition Government scrapped the deal with France which cost Australia $835 million for nothing and now the deal Scott Morrison negotiated is falling apart after paying the US $500 million for nothing....The Trump administration are incompetant and unreliable.....Scrap the deal and start over again without American screwing us over....Who needs enemies when you are Allies with the Yanks???

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Reply #7 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:13am
 
https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/debaclemalcolm-turnbull-trashes-aussie...

It’s all over!

Another fine mess you caused Scomo!

I doubt Trump is going to give us the $800 million deposit back and I doubt even deeper Albo would have the balls to ask for it.

It’s a bugger our petrol reserves are stored in Texas ( another Scomo failure) because Trump will not be letting us ever touch that!

Maybe we should stop paying for the storage and just write it all off.

It’s only the best part of a billion wasted.

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Reply #8 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:16am
 
WTF did you expect, if our politicians are going to talk about Trump the way they do of course he is going to screw you. Its called self harm.
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Reply #9 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am
 
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.
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Reply #10 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

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Reply #11 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:50am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

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So there are countries that put other countries before their own, which countries are they?.
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Reply #12 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:20pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:50am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump who bullies everyone
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So there are countries that put other countries before their own, which countries are they?.


Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump....Why negotiate with a complete narcissist like Trump who's word is not worth crap....Only a dickhead like you would not understand that making a deal means sticking to it....Australia needs to forge new alliances with Asia and Europe because America can no longer be trusted or relied upon....Full on MAGA bullshit you support....Traitor!!!

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Reply #13 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:27pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:13am:


No it's not. Every incoming govt reviews deals made by previous administrations. Even albo reviewed the deal when he first won office. No need to panic just yet.
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Reply #14 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:29pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:20pm:
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:50am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump who bullies everyone
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So there are countries that put other countries before their own, which countries are they?.


Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump....Why negotiate with a complete narcissist like Trump who's word is not worth crap....Only a dickhead like you would not understand that making a deal means sticking to it....Australia needs to forge new alliances with Asia and Europe because America can no longer be trusted or relied upon....Full on MAGA bullshit you support....Traitor!!!

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So what happened to the deal Australia made with France for subs?.
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Reply #15 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:32pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:29pm:
So what happened to the deal Australia made with France for subs?.


Scummo,


almost as corrupt as Trump

what is it with the retarded right not keeping their word?
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Reply #16 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:44pm
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:29pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:20pm:
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:50am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump who bullies everyone
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So there are countries that put other countries before their own, which countries are they?.


Countries that sign agreements and then stick to them unlike America under Trump....Why negotiate with a complete narcissist like Trump who's word is not worth crap....Only a dickhead like you would not understand that making a deal means sticking to it....Australia needs to forge new alliances with Asia and Europe because America can no longer be trusted or relied upon....Full on MAGA bullshit you support....Traitor!!!

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So what happened to the deal Australia made with France for subs?.


The Coalition under Scumo scrapped it costing $835 million for nothing....Are you dyslexic or just very stupid???

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Reply #17 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 1:21pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:28am:
Malcolm Turnbull has entered the chat. The former prime minister has been a vocal critic of the AUKUS security pact over the years.

In a tweet this morning, he questioned if it was time for the Australian parliament to "wake up".

"The UK is conducting a review of AUKUS. The US DoD is conducting a review of AUKUS. But Australia, which has the most at stake, has no review.

"Our parliament to date has been the least curious and least informed. Time to wake up?"


Possibly but who give a flying phuk what Turnbull has to say?

Just a Labor Lite flog.
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Reply #18 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 1:24pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:42am:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Yanks could blackmail us if we buy their subs – for example -
unless we do what we are told to do they will withdraw spare parts
making our subs useless.

Also – military devices are normally supplied as "black boxes "
where we don't know exactly what is inside them -
no circuit diagrams, no parts lists, no source code, and
custom ICs that can't be bought and are only made as a one off batch
as spares held forever by the Yanks – not us – etc.
We are then totally dependent on them – at their mercy.


I agree Bobby....America first is all about screwing everyone else in Americas favour whilst the Yanks become more isolationist and unreliable....Angus Taylor is blaming Labor for a deal his Government negotiated and Donald Trump does not understand....As the deal was signed by Joe Biden Trump will do all he can to screw more out of Australia and Angus Taylor is on the Yanks side....The Coalition created this mess and are now blaming Labor for their incompetance....Suck up to Trump and give him what he wants is Taylors solution....Taylor is a complete dickhead who thinks making political point scoring is more important than Australia's defence!!!

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That's what all Govts usually do.

And for that matter it's what all businesses do as well.

It's what you do when you're looking after No1. first. Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 1:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 12:29pm:
So what happened to the deal Australia made with France for subs?.


Scummo,


almost as corrupt as Trump

what is it with the retarded right not keeping their word?


And the Albo Labor govt does?  Grin
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Reply #20 - Jun 13th, 2025 at 9:13am
 
China is too powerful for us -
they have the largest navy in the world -
no matter how much we spend we could never defend ourselves
without help from the USA and perhaps the UK too.
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Reply #21 - Jun 13th, 2025 at 9:43am
 
Sinking a few fuel ships heading to the country would probably be enough to cause the country to fall.

Nuke subs on the never, never will not save us.
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Reply #22 - Jun 13th, 2025 at 12:46pm
 
We need nukes but not submarines, nuclear weapons.

We need to get over this belief that England or America must protect us.
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Reply #23 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:24pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 12:46pm:
We need nukes but not submarines, nuclear weapons.

We need to get over this belief that England or America must protect us.


Well unless you've been living under a rock you'd know that we can't(don't have the resources) to protect ourselves.

That also applies to not using the resources we have to be able to build shyte to protect ourselves.
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Reply #24 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm
 
Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart
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Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart


Here's a question - what alternative was there?  Please tell us what alternative was there have had sufficient range and ability to match the proposed atomic powered submarine?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:46pm
 
Lesson 1

Don’t play with the big boys.

Lesson 2.

Don’t buy Steam submarines.
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Reply #27 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:55pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart


Here's a question - what alternative was there?  Please tell us what alternative was there have had sufficient range and ability to match the proposed atomic powered submarine?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There you go again,Brian, nobody calls the Steam submarines ‘Atomic’ anymore, the buzz word for these conventionally powered steam boats is ‘Nuclear’.

In answer to your question, try Gotland-class submarine
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Reply #28 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:39pm
 
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:55pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart


Here's a question - what alternative was there?  Please tell us what alternative was there have had sufficient range and ability to match the proposed atomic powered submarine?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There you go again,Brian, nobody calls the Steam submarines ‘Atomic’ anymore, the buzz word for these conventionally powered steam boats is ‘Nuclear’.

In answer to your question, try Gotland-class submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotland-class_submarine


The Gotland Class is registered to have a range of 1,700 nautical miles.  Nuclear submarines have an unlimited range.  They do not compare all that well, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:55pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart


Here's a question - what alternative was there?  Please tell us what alternative was there have had sufficient range and ability to match the proposed atomic powered submarine?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There you go again,Brian, nobody calls the Steam submarines ‘Atomic’ anymore, the buzz word for these conventionally powered steam boats is ‘Nuclear’.

In answer to your question, try Gotland-class submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotland-class_submarine


The Gotland Class is registered to have a range of 1,700 nautical miles.  Nuclear submarines have an unlimited range.  They do not compare all that well, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I think our beloved statesman paul Keating summed up the acquisition rather well and explained why we never entertained it the past
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Reply #30 - Jun 15th, 2025 at 4:04am
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:16am:
WTF did you expect, if our politicians are going to talk about Trump the way they do of course he is going to screw you. Its called self harm.



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Reply #31 - Jun 15th, 2025 at 4:06am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 9:13am:
China is too powerful for us -
they have the largest navy in the world -
no matter how much we spend we could never defend ourselves
without help from the USA and perhaps the UK too.



Told you, Blooby.

Might be wise to start learning how to speak Chinese.
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Re: USUKA, No Nuke Subs
Reply #32 - Jun 15th, 2025 at 9:16am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 7:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:55pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Hopefully they cancel it , can't believe Labor backed scomos brainfart


Here's a question - what alternative was there?  Please tell us what alternative was there have had sufficient range and ability to match the proposed atomic powered submarine?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There you go again,Brian, nobody calls the Steam submarines ‘Atomic’ anymore, the buzz word for these conventionally powered steam boats is ‘Nuclear’.

In answer to your question, try Gotland-class submarine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotland-class_submarine


The Gotland Class is registered to have a range of 1,700 nautical miles.  Nuclear submarines have an unlimited range.  They do not compare all that well, Eugene. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The range of the Stirling engined subs is limited by the amount of compressed oxygen that they can carry and that limits their range, however that is a design choice and as we have no need for unlimited range then a Sterling engined sub can do what we need and SILENTLY unlike the noisy steam boats.
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Re: USUKA, No Nuke Subs
Reply #33 - Jun 16th, 2025 at 10:22am
 
Pity that Bill Shorten isn’t PM, then we could call him “Steam Boat Bill”.
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