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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #45 - Jun 10th, 2025 at 11:03pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 10:41pm:
No - I simply don't bother with your 'points'... they have yet to bear fruit.

No, you missed the point...

And I know why.
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #46 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 12:28am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:46pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:51pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:23pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 6:18pm:
Brilliant! Absolutely nailed them.

I heart Tony.


Some of that must have been hard for him to make.



No doubt. Horrible, horrible people.

He's copped so much abuse and vilification for absolutely no other reason than that he is a prominent First Nations man.

We can only hope he feels empowered by making this. He deserves to.


There's nothing OzPol hates more than successful First Nations people and successful women.

And I mean, nothing.



I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.



Oh it most certainly is in some cases, they stick out like dog's ball.

Then there's the types who was just taught wrong, you know?

I was watching the new Bob Dylan biopic a couple of nights ago, A Complete Unknown, and a few lines from "Only a Pawn in Their Game" played. Yet another song n which Bob just nails it but sadly, it's still relevent in 2025."

A bullet from the back of a bush
Took Medgar Evers' blood
A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a man's brain
But he can't be blamed
He's only a pawn in their game

A South politician preaches to the poor white man
"You got more than the blacks, don't complain
You're better than them, you been born with white skin, " they explain
And the Negro's name
Is used, it is plain
For the politician's gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white man's used in the hands of them all like a tool
He's taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
'Bout the shape that he's in
But it ain't him to blame

He's only a pawn in their game
From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
And he's taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide 'neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain't got no name
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game

Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
They lowered him down as a king
But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
That fired the gun
He'll see by his grave
On the stone that remains
Carved next to his name
His epitaph plain
Only a pawn in their game




Funnily enough - Dylan was actually saying that Medgar Evers was treated like a king while the poor whites were not ... but you missed that.   Grin  Grin  Grin .... all in your fanatical rush to see everything through a black and white prism...   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


I know there's no point in mentioning it but you know Medgar Evers was murdered, rrrrright?
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #47 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 7:22am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 6:16pm:
Your senseless thread is acknowledged as the blah blah blah...


I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

You're even easier to manipulate thank Trump is...


Ironic... Looks like someone needs to use their spell checker.... Grin
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #48 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 8:03am
 
It's an act of narcissistic virtue signalling to attempt to compete with the perceived targets of ethnochauvinism by acting more offended by it than they might be.
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #49 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 8:11am
 
Setanta wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 7:22am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:31pm:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 6:16pm:
Your senseless thread is acknowledged as the blah blah blah...


I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

You're even easier to manipulate thank Trump is...


Ironic... Looks like someone needs to use their spell checker.... Grin


Wat sppel chekker?
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #50 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 8:17am
 
mothra wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 12:28am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:46pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:51pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:44pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:23pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 6:18pm:
Brilliant! Absolutely nailed them.

I heart Tony.


Some of that must have been hard for him to make.



No doubt. Horrible, horrible people.

He's copped so much abuse and vilification for absolutely no other reason than that he is a prominent First Nations man.

We can only hope he feels empowered by making this. He deserves to.


There's nothing OzPol hates more than successful First Nations people and successful women.

And I mean, nothing.



I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.



Oh it most certainly is in some cases, they stick out like dog's ball.

Then there's the types who was just taught wrong, you know?

I was watching the new Bob Dylan biopic a couple of nights ago, A Complete Unknown, and a few lines from "Only a Pawn in Their Game" played. Yet another song n which Bob just nails it but sadly, it's still relevent in 2025."

A bullet from the back of a bush
Took Medgar Evers' blood
A finger fired the trigger to his name
A handle hid out in the dark
A hand set the spark
Two eyes took the aim
Behind a man's brain
But he can't be blamed
He's only a pawn in their game

A South politician preaches to the poor white man
"You got more than the blacks, don't complain
You're better than them, you been born with white skin, " they explain
And the Negro's name
Is used, it is plain
For the politician's gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game

The deputy sheriffs, the soldiers, the governors get paid
And the marshals and cops get the same
But the poor white man's used in the hands of them all like a tool
He's taught in his school
From the start by the rule
That the laws are with him
To protect his white skin
To keep up his hate
So he never thinks straight
'Bout the shape that he's in
But it ain't him to blame

He's only a pawn in their game
From the poverty shacks, he looks from the cracks to the tracks
And the hoofbeats pound in his brain
And he's taught how to walk in a pack
Shoot in the back
With his fist in a clinch
To hang and to lynch
To hide 'neath the hood
To kill with no pain
Like a dog on a chain
He ain't got no name
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game

Today, Medgar Evers was buried from the bullet he caught
They lowered him down as a king
But when the shadowy sun sets on the one
That fired the gun
He'll see by his grave
On the stone that remains
Carved next to his name
His epitaph plain
Only a pawn in their game




Funnily enough - Dylan was actually saying that Medgar Evers was treated like a king while the poor whites were not ... but you missed that.   Grin  Grin  Grin .... all in your fanatical rush to see everything through a black and white prism...   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin


I know there's no point in mentioning it but you know Medgar Evers was murdered, rrrrright?


So much to unpack there... nobody could lay out the labrynthine ways of the minds of certain types here.... clearly some here have some serious issues... difficulty connecting with reality ....  blah, blah... endless mothra platitudes ...

Re-read the lyrics... everyone knows that Medgar Evers was shot by some redneck ... the lyrics are saying there was no real difference between his death being used for advantage and those who use the plight of poor whites for advantage...  Dylan is far more subtle than you, clearly.. manipulation by the 'top class' and the media - lots of that going around these days.. too much ...
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #51 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:01am
 
Often a problem with Dylan's lyrics... Their demanding 'look over there' style...

'Look over where?'... 'Over there... somewhere else... in that general direction'...

While usually powerfully visual and deeply metaphoric, for which he rightly won the Nobel Prize for Literature, they often end up saying f~ck all... like 'Blowin' in the Wind'.

And if you can't work out what he means by that... waaal you juss ain't got a maaand fur tha wurds ov tha Maaster'...

So we listen to it, while staring deep into the mid-horizon, and pretend we do.
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #52 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:29am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.


Grin Grin Grin

Not buying into your psycho dramas is now 'mental illness'!!!  Talk about anosognosia, lack of self-awareness of deficit!



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Reply #53 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.


Grin Grin Grin

Not buying into your psycho dramas is now 'mental illness'!!!  Talk about anosognosia, lack of self-awareness of deficit!


Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

How else would you describe it?
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #54 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:41am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.


Grin Grin Grin

Not buying into your psycho dramas is now 'mental illness'!!!  Talk about anosognosia, lack of self-awareness of deficit!


Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

How else would you describe it?

You are inventing creepy lies again, creepy liar.

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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #55 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

Except it's seldom true...

Outside of apartheid or apartheid-like state policies (and culturally-mandated discrimination), people discriminate against the other by their religious and cultural associations, not by the colour of their skin.
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Reply #56 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:49am
 
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.


Grin Grin Grin

Not buying into your psycho dramas is now 'mental illness'!!!  Talk about anosognosia, lack of self-awareness of deficit!


Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

How else would you describe it?

You are inventing creepy lies again, creepy liar.



No, it's a fact.

You, and others here, hate people you don't even know based solely on the colour of their skin.

Own it.
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Re: Something for the usual suspects here
Reply #57 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:53am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

Except it's seldom true...

Outside of apartheid or apartheid-like state policies (and culturally-mandated discrimination), people discriminate against the other by their religious and cultural associations, not by the colour of their skin.

And some of the greatest offenders via culturally-mandated skin colour discrimination are from non-white peoples, like Indians in India, the Han Chinese in China and some African ethnicities...
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Reply #58 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:54am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:49am:
You, and others here, hate people you don't even know based solely on the colour of their skin.

Own it.

I doubt that.

Nearly all critical posts of the other on this site refer to cultural issues, not skin colour.
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Reply #59 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:55am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:49am:
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:37am:
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 9:29am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
mothra wrote on Jun 10th, 2025 at 7:57pm:
I don't understand what they get out of being so hateful.


I personally think it's a mental illness.

It's very sad to witness.


Grin Grin Grin

Not buying into your psycho dramas is now 'mental illness'!!!  Talk about anosognosia, lack of self-awareness of deficit!


Hating people you don't even know, based solely on the colour of their skin, appears to be a mental illness.

How else would you describe it?

You are inventing creepy lies again, creepy liar.



No, it's a fact.

You, and others here, hate people you don't even know based solely on the colour of their skin.




Name one, creep.

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