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Re: Trump calls in the National guard.
Reply #180 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am
 
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.
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Reply #181 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:18am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


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Reply #182 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:24am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:18am:
Can't wait to see Frank's response   Smiley


It will probably be another Babylon Bee article (without a link, as usual).

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Reply #183 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:27am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:18am:
Can't wait to see Frank's response   Smiley


It will probably be another Babylon Bee article (without a link, as usual).

Smiley


Indeed.

Or more personal abuse.

It's a really good question though.

On Jan 6, Trump said there needed to be a formal request in order to deploy the National Guard.  Now, however, he says there's no need for such a request.  Why not?  What's different?

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Reply #184 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:33am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:27am:
It's a really good question though.

On Jan 6, Trump said there needed to be a formal request in order to deploy the National Guard.  Now, however, he says there's no need for such a request.  Why not?  What's different?



We'll probably get an answer to that around about the same time we get an answer as to why he won't release the Epstein files.

In other words - never.
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Reply #185 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin
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Reply #186 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 10:26am
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
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the leader of the free world acting like a rabid dictator? It bloody well should keep first world people up
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Reply #187 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:15am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:33am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:27am:
It's a really good question though.

On Jan 6, Trump said there needed to be a formal request in order to deploy the National Guard.  Now, however, he says there's no need for such a request.  Why not?  What's different?



We'll probably get an answer to that around about the same time we get an answer as to why he won't release the Epstein files.

In other words - never.

DOD details National Guard response to Capitol attack
By Jim Garamone DOD News

WASHINGTON – Once the reality of the assault on the U.S. Capitol became apparent, National Guard troops responded appropriately and with alacrity, Department of Defense officials said in a phone briefing on Jan. 7.

"Yesterday was a horrible and shameful day here in the capital, and the nation at large," Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy said on the call. "The District of Columbia asked the Army for help, and our National Guard responded."

McCarthy, Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Rath Hoffman and Kenneth P. Rapuano, the assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense, put the timeline of the National Guard response in perspective during the call.

District of Columbia officials knew of the planned protests and had requested some assistance when the "First Amendment demonstrations" were planned for Jan. 5 and 6, McCarthy said. Based on this request, officials called up 340 National Guardsmen to help. The Guardsmen were assigned mainly to traffic control, Metro crowd control, some logistics support and a 40-member quick reaction force to be based at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

"No other requests were made," the Army secretary said.

But the protests turned into a mob rioting through the halls, chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol. At around 2 p.m., D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser requested more assistance. Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller immediately called up 1,100 members of the D.C. National Guard.

At the same time, officials were collecting Guardsmen at traffic points and Metro stations and returning them to the D.C. Armory to refit for a crowd control mission, the secretary said. Their mission was to support D.C. Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police.

Guardsmen started flowing into the area of the Capitol soon after and reinforced Metro Police on the perimeter of the Capitol. This allowed the police and FBI to clear the chambers and offices of the U.S. Capitol, McCarthy said. "By 7:15, both chambers and leadership offices were cleared, and members were able to return to business, and we began the planning for the following day," he said.

At 6 p.m., Miller authorized the mobilization of up to 6,200 National Guard members from Maryland, Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania. These service members will flow into the city over the next few days and will help secure the peaceful transfer of power to President-elect Joseph Biden on Jan. 20.

"Yesterday's violence at the Capitol was reprehensible and contrary to the tenets of the United States Constitution," Miller said in a written release from the Pentagon. "In the midst of this tragedy, I was proud of the professionalism of our Department of Defense personnel. I want to specifically recognize the service of the District of Columbia National Guard. They performed with honor, integrity and alacrity to protect people and property from unlawful acts."

The DOD is supporting the Justice Department, which is the lead federal agency in this situation. They relied on estimates of the Metropolitan Police and Capitol Hill Police. Those organizations, which had experience with pro-Trump groups in November and December, believed the request they made for personnel was adequate.

"We don't do domestic [intelligence] collection," Hoffman said. "We rely on Capitol Police and federal law enforcement to provide an assessment of the situation. And based on that assessment that they had, they believed they had sufficient personnel and did not make a request."

Estimates of the crowd size were all over the map, Rapuano said.

Thursday, there were 741 National Guardsmen on the Capitol grounds. Guardsmen are also staffing traffic checkpoints and put up a non-scalable fence around the Capitol grounds. More Guardsmen will arrive in the days ahead.

"Our republic may have been disrupted yesterday, but the resolve of our legislators to conduct the people's business did not waver," Miller wrote. "Due to their efforts, supported by local and federal law enforcement and the National Guard, the attempts of those who tried to stop our government from functioning failed. I strongly condemn these acts of violence against our democracy. I, and the people I lead in the Department of Defense, continue to perform our duties in accordance with our oath of office, and will execute the time-honored peaceful transition of power to President-elect Biden on January 20."
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Reply #188 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:49am
 
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin


I know, right? Imagine deploying the military to hose down protesters. Sounds suspiciously like a third world response to me, dear.

We remember the Marcos and Pinochet governments doing exactly the same.

What's the policy of the Sustainability Party, Leroy?

I'm curious.
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Re: Trump calls in the National guard.
Reply #189 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:59am
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin


I know, right? Imagine deploying the military to hose down a few protesters.

What's the policy of the Sustainability Party, Leroy?

I'm curious.



PEACEFUL protesters. Don't forget to add peaceful

They are peacefully burning and looting.
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Re: Trump calls in the National guard.
Reply #190 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:59am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin


I know, right? Imagine deploying the military to hose down a few protesters.

What's the policy of the Sustainability Party, Leroy?

I'm curious.



PEACEFUL protesters. Don't forget to add peaceful

They are peacefully burning and looting.


How do we reconcile the two versions of Trump Frank?

They can't both be telling the truth, right?

So I'll ask again,

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 7:42am:
Do you care you're being constantly lied to Frannie by either Trump or those in his Administration?


?
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Reply #191 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:33pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 11:35am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:42am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 7:42am:
Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:43am:
BOOOOOOOM!!!💥🤣🤣🤣

https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1932858832499146928

(Your question answered, Sprinty....)
Longer answer:
https://x.com/Danielibertari0/status/1932859592662192310


Boom?



Do you care you're being constantly lied to Frannie by either Trump or those in his Administration?

Well, it doesn't bother me that you are very stupid and love nothing more than twist and misrepresent things to feed your TDS affliction, little teapot.


You want to accuse someone else of having TDS after having such a combative and emotionally unregulated response to the question "do you care that Trump and his people are lying to you"?

You didn't answer the question, lobbed multiple personal attacks and accused me of being the one to twist the truth?

The question hurt didn't it...  A little too real?  Triggered your TDS did it?

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Can you post a longer segment of that Trump clip to show what protests he is talking about? In the service of truth? Or are you content to stand by the tendentious, dishonest etiting and juxtaposition for cheap and stupudly dishonest TDS brownie points?


Further insults aside, yes, of course I have the footage...  It's part of what has guided my opinions on the matter in the first place.

The facts.

Trump was asked:

"Mr. President, do you have any message to adversaries as the Army kicks off 250 year birthday celebrations?"

And in reply, Trump couldn’t help himself. No one even mentioned the protests, but, true to form, he blurted it out anyway. The mere existence of dissent, especially the “No Kings” protest timed to coincide with his glorified military circus, was enough of a bruise to his ego that he felt compelled to weigh in.

So, unprompted, he starts ranting about a “big show of force”. No distinction between peaceful demonstrators and actual rioters, just one sweeping threat aimed at all protesters. That’s not just reckless, it’s unconstitutional.

The First Amendment doesn’t evaporate because Donald Trump is throwing a tantrum. But then, respecting the Constitution has never been his strong suit, especially when it gets in the way of his fantasies of power.

And then, realising he’d just made himself look weak, so transparently rattled by protests aimed squarely at him, he pivoted on the spot and lied through his teeth, claiming he hadn’t even heard about any protests.

The backpedal was pathetic. He’d already said the quiet part out loud, already revealed how deeply the idea of protests against him had burrowed under his skin. And now he wanted to pretend it didn’t bother him, as if anyone was buying the act.

Classic Trump, authoritarian impulse first, clumsy cover-up second.

You can see the full-length press conference and transcript here:

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-wildfire-bri...

Or, you can watch just the full clip you asked for of his answer if reading it too much for you, here:



It was these exact words from Trump, that prompted the reporter to ask TACO Belle her question about protests during the parade that you posted as a limp and failed "boom".

So either TACO Belle, sorry, Karoline Leavitt was lying, or Trump was.

I'll ask you again:

Do you care you're being constantly lied to Frannie, by either Trump or those in his Administration?


Ouch!

Frannie gets owned again.

The TDS is strong is this one.




Says the guy who has started a thread on Donny every day for the last decade.





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Reply #192 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:48pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:59am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin


I know, right? Imagine deploying the military to hose down a few protesters.

What's the policy of the Sustainability Party, Leroy?

I'm curious.



PEACEFUL protesters. Don't forget to add peaceful

They are peacefully burning and looting.


Why, thank you, dear boy.

What's the Sustainability Party policy on sending the military in to bust up peaceful protesters, Leroy?

Cheers.
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Reply #193 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:51pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 11:35am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 10:23am:
Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:42am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 7:42am:
Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 10:43am:
BOOOOOOOM!!!💥🤣🤣🤣

https://x.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1932858832499146928

(Your question answered, Sprinty....)
Longer answer:
https://x.com/Danielibertari0/status/1932859592662192310


Boom?



Do you care you're being constantly lied to Frannie by either Trump or those in his Administration?

Well, it doesn't bother me that you are very stupid and love nothing more than twist and misrepresent things to feed your TDS affliction, little teapot.


You want to accuse someone else of having TDS after having such a combative and emotionally unregulated response to the question "do you care that Trump and his people are lying to you"?

You didn't answer the question, lobbed multiple personal attacks and accused me of being the one to twist the truth?

The question hurt didn't it...  A little too real?  Triggered your TDS did it?

Quote:
Can you post a longer segment of that Trump clip to show what protests he is talking about? In the service of truth? Or are you content to stand by the tendentious, dishonest etiting and juxtaposition for cheap and stupudly dishonest TDS brownie points?


Further insults aside, yes, of course I have the footage...  It's part of what has guided my opinions on the matter in the first place.

The facts.

Trump was asked:

"Mr. President, do you have any message to adversaries as the Army kicks off 250 year birthday celebrations?"

And in reply, Trump couldn’t help himself. No one even mentioned the protests, but, true to form, he blurted it out anyway. The mere existence of dissent, especially the “No Kings” protest timed to coincide with his glorified military circus, was enough of a bruise to his ego that he felt compelled to weigh in.

So, unprompted, he starts ranting about a “big show of force”. No distinction between peaceful demonstrators and actual rioters, just one sweeping threat aimed at all protesters. That’s not just reckless, it’s unconstitutional.

The First Amendment doesn’t evaporate because Donald Trump is throwing a tantrum. But then, respecting the Constitution has never been his strong suit, especially when it gets in the way of his fantasies of power.

And then, realising he’d just made himself look weak, so transparently rattled by protests aimed squarely at him, he pivoted on the spot and lied through his teeth, claiming he hadn’t even heard about any protests.

The backpedal was pathetic. He’d already said the quiet part out loud, already revealed how deeply the idea of protests against him had burrowed under his skin. And now he wanted to pretend it didn’t bother him, as if anyone was buying the act.

Classic Trump, authoritarian impulse first, clumsy cover-up second.

You can see the full-length press conference and transcript here:

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-wildfire-bri...

Or, you can watch just the full clip you asked for of his answer if reading it too much for you, here:



It was these exact words from Trump, that prompted the reporter to ask TACO Belle her question about protests during the parade that you posted as a limp and failed "boom".

So either TACO Belle, sorry, Karoline Leavitt was lying, or Trump was.

I'll ask you again:

Do you care you're being constantly lied to Frannie, by either Trump or those in his Administration?


Ouch!

Frannie gets owned again.

The TDS is strong is this one.




Says the guy who has started a thread on Donny every day for the last decade.





   Cheesy Grin Grin


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Re: Trump calls in the National guard.
Reply #194 - Jun 14th, 2025 at 1:34pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:59am:
Karnal wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 11:49am:
Leroy wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 9:37am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 14th, 2025 at 8:53am:
Frank, do you remember when Trump claimed he couldn’t deploy the National Guard on January 6th because the DC mayor or relevant authorities hadn’t requested it?

But then somehow, without a governor's request, he managed to send the National Guard into California?

So which is it? Was he breaking the law now, or lying to you then?

Because both can’t be true, unless you’re telling me the law only applies when it’s politically convenient.


The things that keep first world people awake at night. Grin Grin


I know, right? Imagine deploying the military to hose down a few protesters.

What's the policy of the Sustainability Party, Leroy?

I'm curious.



PEACEFUL protesters. Don't forget to add peaceful

They are peacefully burning and looting.


Why, thank you, dear boy.

What's the Sustainability Party policy on sending the military in to bust up peaceful protesters, Leroy?

Cheers.

To stop the peaceful looting and burning.
And to stop the hindering and harrassment of federal law enforcement enforcing the law. You are against enforcing the law if Trump does it?
(Yes)
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