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ISLAMISATION of society, being normalised, in Euro
Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:32am

Today the ISLAMISATION of society, is being normalised, in many areas of Europe.

And many Europeans, will now begin to witness the serious consequences of this particular 'modulation'
.....of 'social values'.

normalise = = bring to a normal or standard state.

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IMAGE #01.....

"Many Bruxellois in what is supposed to be “the capital of the European Union” now feel unsafe in their own city."

IMAGE #02.....

The Brussels Federal Judicial Police display some of the 110 illegal firearms that were seized in a major operation, at a press conference in Brussels, on September 13, 2024......
Going by the number of gunfights we see occurring on the streets of the suburbs of Sydney....
THIS COULD JUST AS WELL, BE A DISPLAY PRESENTED BY THE NSW POLICE.

Quote:

Brussels:
The Muddy Mirror of a Europe in Crisis

by Drieu Godefridi
June 3, 2025

Brussels, the self-proclaimed capital of the European Union, is no longer the beacon of a united Europe, but an advanced symptom of its disintegration.

The normalization of radical Islamic and anti-Semitic discourse we are witnessing in Brussels is the result of 15 years of leaders abrogating their responsibility.

Brussels, through its inability -- or unwillingness -- to make unpleasant but necessary choices, is setting itself up as the first potential locus of protracted European unrest.

The Islamist Team Fouad Ahidar party embodies a new situation: a political Islam that no longer hides its identity.
Instead, it advocates that a religious identity be the underpinning of national cohesion.
This fragmentation reflects a profound breakdown in the social contract, between the old European society, which confines religion to the private sphere, and the "new Europeans" (Muslims), who want everything to be subject to their religious doctrine.

Crime rates are rising everywhere in Brussels,....

particularly in an area in the spotlight for its frequent shootings:
the Bruxelles-Midi Zone (Saint-Gilles, Forest, Anderlecht).

Between 2022 and 2023, notes the newspaper L'Echo, robberies and extortion rose by 23%, robberies without weapons by 34%, pickpocketing by 27%, and armed robberies by a staggering 53%.

The Brussels-Capital Region is not merely on the brink of bankruptcy; it is already at the bottom of a financial abyss.

Jew-hatred, often marketed in unconvincing, transparent disguises as "anti-Zionism," flourishes in many other Islamic-centered and radical left-wing circles....
in Brussels, Jew-hatred enjoys almost total impunity.

As of 2023, 74% of Brussels' population is of foreign background, compared to a European average of 10%....
This demographic transformation or "great replacement," far from being accompanied by an effective integration policy, has saturated Brussels -- overcrowded schools, overwhelmed hospitals, sorely inadequate housing -- and exacerbated communal tensions.

In 2022, a report revealed that 35% of young people with an immigrant background in Brussels were living in households where nobody has a job -- a breeding ground for delinquency and radicalization.

Brussels is not only a city in crisis, it is a city on the brink of implosion.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/21662/brussels-crisis

[the whole article is just a click away.]

"Nothing to see here.
Move along, move along."

- essentially, this reflects the lack of acuity, of our Political Class,
in all 1st world nations, in 2025,
relating to the LAWLESSNESS in society, which their LEFTIST, WOKE policies are actively facilitating.

acuity = = sharpness or keenness of thought, vision, or hearing.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISLAMISATION of society, being normalised, in Euro
Reply #1 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:41am

1. Claim: "Islamization" & Demographic Change ("Great Replacement")
Post’s Argument:

74% of Brussels’ population is "of foreign background," suggesting a deliberate erosion of European culture.

Counterpoints:

"Foreign background" ≠ Muslim or non-European. Brussels has long been multicultural, with many "foreign" residents coming from EU countries (e.g., France, Poland) or former colonies (e.g., Congo). Only ~25% of Brussels is Muslim (Pew Research, 2023).

Urban vs. National Trends: Brussels is an outlier—Belgium as a whole is ~7% Muslim. Cities globally attract immigrants; this isn’t unique to Europe (see London, New York).

"Great Replacement" Debunked: Demographers reject this theory as a far-right myth. Birth rates among immigrant families typically converge with natives within 1–2 generations (EU Commission, 2022).

Progressive Perspective:

Demographic shifts are normal in global cities. The focus should be on inclusive policies (language classes, anti-discrimination laws) rather than fearmongering.

2. Claim: Rising Crime Due to Immigration
Post’s Argument:

Armed robberies up 53%, shootings in Bruxelles-Midi, etc., linked to Muslim immigrants.

Counterpoints:

Crime ≠ Immigration: Studies show socioeconomics matter more than origin. Molenbeek (a poor Brussels commune) has high crime, but so do deprived native-majority areas (e.g., Charleroi).

Gun Crime Context: Many illegal firearms in Brussels come from Balkan trafficking networks—not "Islamization" (EUROPOL, 2024).

Data Nuance: Violent crime is rising in some European cities, but overall EU crime rates fell from 2008–2023 (Eurostat).

Centrist Perspective:

Integration failures (e.g., ghettoization, youth unemployment) fuel crime. Solutions require jobs + policing, not blanket blame.

3. Claim: Political Islam & Anti-Semitism
Post’s Argument:

Parties like Team Fouad Ahidar push religious nationalism; anti-Semitism is rampant in Muslim/leftist circles.

Counterpoints:

Team Fouad Ahidar is marginal. It holds 0 seats in Brussels’ parliament (2024 elections). Mainstream Muslim politicians (e.g., Belgium’s Zuhal Demir) reject Islamism.

Anti-Semitism Complex: While some Muslim communities harbor anti-Jewish views (linked to Middle East politics), the far right is the #1 threat in Europe (ADL, 2024). Left-wing "anti-Zionism" exists but is not the dominant trend.

Progressive Perspective:

Combating anti-Semitism requires coalitions with Muslim allies (e.g., interfaith initiatives), not divisive rhetoric.

4. Claim: "Leftist Woke Policies" Enable Lawlessness
Post’s Argument:

Progressive leaders ignore crime by prioritizing "woke" ideals over security.

Counterpoints:

Straw Man Argument: No EU government "facilitates" crime. Even left-wing parties support policing (e.g., Brussels boosted police funding by 12% in 2024).

What "Woke" Policies? The post doesn’t specify. If referring to anti-racism programs, these aim to reduce radicalization by addressing alienation.

Right-Wing Failures: Hungary (hardline on immigration) has higher violent crime rates than Belgium (UNODC, 2023).

Centrist Perspective:

Effective policy needs both security and social investment. For example:

Denmark’s Model: Stricter immigration laws + intensive integration programs (language/job training).

5. Brussels’ "Implosion"? Overstated.
Post’s Argument:

Brussels is "on the brink" due to bankruptcy, overcrowding, and tension.

Reality Check:

Bankruptcy? Brussels’ debt is high (120% of GDP), but so is Paris’ (115%). This reflects urban governance challenges, not Islam.

Housing Crisis: Driven by EU bureaucracy inflating demand—not immigrants (Brussels Times, 2024).

Success Stories: Cities like Rotterdam reversed "no-go zone" myths with community policing and youth centers.

Key Takeaways:
The post cherry-picks data to fit a narrative of civilizational conflict, ignoring nuances like class, global trends, and policy impacts.

Real issues exist (crime, integration) but are exploited to fuel xenophobia. Solutions require pragmatism, not panic.

Alternative Models Work: See Germany’s vocational training for immigrants or Sweden’s housing reforms to prevent ghettoization.

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Re: ISLAMISATION of society, being normalised, in Euro
Reply #2 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 11:20am

Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:41am:

........Real issues exist (crime, integration)
but are exploited
to fuel xenophobia.
Solutions require pragmatism, not panic.

Alternative Models Work:
See Germany’s vocational training for immigrants
or Sweden’s housing reforms to prevent ghettoization.

If those solutions [typically e.g. Germany and Sweden] are legit and effective.......

Why wouldn't the ISLAMIST powers within
Sudan,
Syria,
Egypt,
Yemen,
Iran,
Iraq,
Pakistan, etc, etc........
choose the implementation of such solutions locally, in order to remedy their own social violence and disintegration,
apparent in their own communities.

A.
The answer that would 'come', is that, ....'Hey! Those ISLAMIC law societies ALREADY have Allah's perfect religion guiding their societies.'

And their religious leaders will repeatedly insist, that that [ISLAM and ISLAMIC law],
is all that any society requires.

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Ai_Took,

If it is possible that .....ISLAM can be an influence for a virtuous societal model.....

Please tell us all....
Where is, the 'exemplar' moslem majority nation,
which is a beacon [to the whole world] of peace, and of justice, and of prosperity,
because moslems live there,
and because they all follow, exactly, ISLAMIC law !?

i.e.
With so many societies on this planet today, claiming to be ISLAMIC Law based....
There must be, AT LEAST ONE peaceful harmonious ISLAMIC law based society,
which the ISLAMISTS can point to ???

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1552398731/0#0

« Last Edit: Jun 4^th, 2025 at 11:26am by Yadda »

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: ISLAMISATION of society, being normalised, in Euro
Reply #7 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 7:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 1:57pm:

Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And now, the Big C* Word for everyone's favourite Trollin' Twat, Bbwiyawn!!

Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

As you were, trollin' twat.

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Reply #8 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:58pm

Frank wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 9:54pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 7:16pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 1:57pm:

Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

And now, the Big C* Word for everyone's favourite Trollin' Twat, Bbwiyawn!!

Twilight Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

As you were, trollin' twat.

Troll Zone. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: ISLAMISATION of society, being normalised, in Euro
Reply #9 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 11:26pm

Inbreeding and Islam.

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