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Reply #15 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:45pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 52679 Gender:	Re: And Now, The C-Word... Reply #16 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:47pm "Fair Dinkum" a Chinese saying "Fair Gold". Australian verbal culture has adopted a lot. Look at the Media and newspapers. They use Jail from America, rather than the traditionally established GAOL that was already established here. As a Second Nations person. I demand the return to Gaol from the invader Jail word.
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Reply #17 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:52pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:47pm:

"Fair Dinkum" a Chinese saying "Fair Gold".

Australian verbal culture has adopted a lot.
Look at the Media and newspapers. They use Jail from America, rather than the traditionally established GAOL that was already established here.

As a Second Nations person. I demand the return to Gaol from the invader Jail word.

Jail is derived from French.

And if you were using gaol as originally pronounced, you'd pronounce it with a hard g, as in gale.

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Reply #19 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:00pm

Of course it's French. America has been pumping out their 'dependence' on all things French in their Politics, Italian in their Media and the majority of their population is descended from Germanics (superior white supremacists?)... all three a dependence from their independence from anything British.

As for the G in Gaol being pronounced like in the name Gayle or Gale force winds. I think you are correct, but I think that pronunciation got locked up a very long time ago. Sounding Jaol, due to the Franco-American intrusion.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15119 Gender:	Re: And Now, The C-Word... Reply #20 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:06pm Jasin wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:00pm: Sounding Jaol, due to the Franco-American intrusion. More like the effect Norman French had on English in England.
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 52679 Gender:	Re: And Now, The C-Word... Reply #21 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:11pm Ah yes. You're quite right there.
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Reply #22 - Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

Unfortunately I not lived or visited any of those countries long enough to be able too form a opinion of their “ culture “.

Sadly I am simply not a expert on the culture of the nations you named and I can’t answer your question.

How much time have you spent living or visiting these countries that allowed you to develop the view of their culture that I must believe they are the same as “Australian culture “?

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Reply #23 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 10:36am

Not that it would surprise any Australian, but the 'c-word' can only be used in a diminutive and endearing sense when used according to the unwritten Australian rules of fraternal context and then only when modified by select adjectives, such as funny, happy, poor, sad and, to a lesser degree, little, angry, stroppy, pathetic; otherwise, it maintains its status, as it does throughout the Anglosphere, as the most insulting...

In a non-fraternal context, say, written, the terms 'dumbarse' and 'dumb f~cker' are far less insulting than dumb 'c~nt'.

The unwritten contextual rule currently still holds in Australia, even though many comedians and ordinary Australians often promote the notion that it can be used interchangably with the likes of arse and f~ck(er).

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Reply #25 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 10:43am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 3:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:45pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

What part of 'bastardisation of dozens of other countries' cultures', as you pit it in your characterisation of "Australian culture" (your quotation marks), would not also apply to Kiwis, Canadians, Americans and Hispanic South Americans?
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 12:51pm:

At best “ Australian culture “ is a bastardisation of dozens of other countries cultures.

Unfortunately I not lived or visited any of those countries long enough to be able too form a opinion of their “ culture “.

Sadly I am simply not a expert on the culture of the nations you named and I can’t answer your question.

How much time have you spent living or visiting these countries that allowed you to develop the view of their culture that I must believe they are the same as “Australian culture “?

As an expert on Australian culture your research has not been extensive enough to study other cultures.

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Reply #26 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 11:27am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 10:27am:

I always find it amusing when someone says “Australian Culture “?

Is that not the definition of an “ oxymoron “.

If I can ask, what does it mean “ your working like a Navi “?

So you saying there is no Australian culture?

I know you have trouble spelling so I'll help you out here.

The word is "navvy" - it is a word still used because it has a railway connection.

Trackworkers/laborers are/were known as Navvys.

Know for the tedious work done in railway line construction and maintenance in all weathers... especially in the heat. Hardwork = working like a navvy.

Mostly all called trackworkers now & in smaller numbers because of mechanisation.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 31417 Gender:	Re: And Now, The C-Word... Reply #27 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 11:31am Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 1:32pm: No, you just suggested that not I. Feel free to expand and explain your thoughts? Why do you suggest they have no culture ? He didn't suggest they have no culture - you did. In saying that are you saying you also have no culture?
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Reply #28 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 11:41am

Jasin wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:21pm:

I found the overuse of it in Game of Thrones tiring on the ears.
But I gather it's a British thing to say often, especially when they have to put up with all those Moslems, Hindus and other C###s in their country now.

A great song by Melbourne band TISM
"I might be a C###, but I'm not a f##king C### (at least)"
They highlight a big difference. Cheesy

It was used in GOT but I wouldn't say it was overused.

I use it but find it more overused by both young males & more young females.

We had 2 female supervisors at the Port of Brisbane - one was called BOAT - B itch O f A T hing.

The other was COAT - C **t O f A T hing.

My son & my mates son - both the same age - cannot put together a single sentence with out using phuk/phukking and a less spattering of the C word.

I gets a bit much when they're doing it in their mothers company & they know their mothers don't like it.

But it seems they can't speak without doing it - like it's programmed into their speech.

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Reply #29 - Jun 20^th, 2025 at 11:45am

Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2025 at 2:34pm:

I think you have confused my reckoning and made a very broad statement of your own that your attempting to pass of as my own.

Why do you believe by your interpretation of my reckoning I believe the numerous nations you named have no cultures when I never made either a claim or speculating on those nations?

Your imagination is fantastic!

Really? I think you're conveniently forgetting that the countries he mentioned all have similar historical founding backgrounds.

So when you tip a bucket on Australia having a lack of culture - you do the same to them.

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