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Reply #180 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:22pm

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:07pm:

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If you find it hard to believe the United Nations then

That's the opposite of what I said Bobby.

The UN said:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

The office emphasized that intentionally directing attacks against civilians not taking direct part in hostilities and intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies, are war crimes.

“If part of a systematic or widespread attack on the civilian population, these may also constitute crimes against humanity,” OHCHR added, noting that the cumulative impact of these incidents and humanitarian access restrictions.

“Each of these killings must be promptly and independently investigated, and those responsible held to account. Urgent measures must be put in place to prevent recurrence,” it said.

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Reply #181 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:24pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:13pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:09pm:

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Let's start with 15 and work from there.

Wow. I see we'll have to do this one step at a time.

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

Got your autism bitch going, then, eh!

How about they report from food distributing sites... that'd be where Palestinians congregate in great enough numbers...

Good start, you think...

Then follow IDF deployments around Gaza and see what they're shooting at...

How 'bout that?

Not a bad start, eh!

Very small steps.

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists congregated at food distribution sites would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

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Reply #182 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:07pm:

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If you find it hard to believe the United Nations then

That's the opposite of what I said Bobby.

The UN said:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/08/1165552

The office emphasized that intentionally directing attacks against civilians not taking direct part in hostilities and intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of objects indispensable to their survival, including willfully impeding relief supplies, are war crimes.

“If part of a systematic or widespread attack on the civilian population, these may also constitute crimes against humanity,” OHCHR added, noting that the cumulative impact of these incidents and humanitarian access restrictions.

“Each of these killings must be promptly and independently investigated, and those responsible held to account. Urgent measures must be put in place to prevent recurrence,” it said.

You have lost track of the point Bobby.

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Reply #183 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:33pm

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:24pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:13pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:09pm:

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Let's start with 15 and work from there.

Wow. I see we'll have to do this one step at a time.

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

Got your autism bitch going, then, eh!

How about they report from food distributing sites... that'd be where Palestinians congregate in great enough numbers...

Good start, you think...

Then follow IDF deployments around Gaza and see what they're shooting at...

How 'bout that?

Not a bad start, eh!

Very small steps.

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists congregated at food distribution sites would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

So, you're saying 30 journalists, then? How about 40?

As an autistic, I'd bet you're thinking there needs to be a journalist for every Palestinian, to report accurately... You lot are crazy that way... very few of you are savants... the rest are nutjobs.

What foreign journalists would confirm beyond doubt is whether any IDF attacks are targeting civilians. If they find none, then it could be concluded that the IDF are in all probability not targeting civilians.

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Reply #184 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:35pm

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So, you're saying 30 journalists, then? How about 40?

No Meister, that is what you are saying.

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What foreign journalists would confirm beyond doubt is whether any IDF attacks are targeting civilians

How so?

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists congregated at food distribution sites would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112950 Melbourne Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #185 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:38pm FD, Quote: who did the shooting? So you admit that people were shot dead? OK - so who done it? was it HAMAS or the IDF or Colonel Mustard?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #186 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:39pm Quote: So you admit that people were shot dead? Are you asking me that Bobby? The answer is, yes, of course. You have strayed a long way from the point Bobby.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16038 Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #187 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:43pm Like the saying, 'you lose 100% the challenges you can't or don't accept', 15 journalists can confirm 0% of the events they can't or don't cover and 100% of those they can and do.
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Reply #188 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:46pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:38pm:

FD,
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who did the shooting?

So you admit that people were shot dead?

OK - so who done it?

was it HAMAS or the IDF or Colonel Mustard?

There's no point, he's autistic... he thinks his life depends on being right, even if it's drivel.

Remember the weird kid at school who couldn't accept when he lost or was wrong and spent the rest of lunchtime arguing the toss...

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Reply #189 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:49pm

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:39pm:

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So you admit that people were shot dead?

Are you asking me that Bobby?

The answer is, yes, of course. You have strayed a long way from the point Bobby.

Study Occam's Razor.

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the one requiring the fewest assumptions or entities is generally considered the most likely to be correct.

The most likely culprits are in the IDF.

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Reply #190 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:50pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:43pm:

Like the saying, 'you lose 100% the challenges you can't or don't accept', 15 journalists can confirm 0% of the events they can't or don't cover and 100% of those they can and do.

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists congregated at food distribution sites would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

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The most likely culprits are in the IDF.

Culprits for what Bobby? You have lost the plot entirely.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112950 Melbourne Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #191 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:52pm FD, Quote: Culprits for what Bobby? Killing 1,400 Palestinians waiting in line for food.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16038 Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #192 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:54pm Great examples of autistic obsessive thinking... Predicated on: There is no possible number of foreign independent journalists who could cover every sparrow fart in Gaza; therefore, all foreign independent journalists must be banned from entering Gaza.
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Reply #193 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2025 at 5:52pm:

FD,
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Culprits for what Bobby?

Killing 1,400 Palestinians waiting in line for food.

What makes you think that that is what happened Bobby?

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There is no possible number of foreign independent journalists who could cover every sparrow fart in Gaza

What percentage of the civilian casualties do you think 15 foreign journalists congregated at food distribution sites would be able to directly observe? And out of that percentage, in what fraction of the deaths would foreign journalists also be able to directly observe who did the shooting?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 112950 Melbourne Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #194 - Aug 6^th, 2025 at 6:03pm FD, Quote: What makes you think that that is what happened Bobby? The UN told me. Nail's videos backed it up and so did Aljazeera. You can't live in your state of denial forever.
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