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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30581 Gender:	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #120 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:40am freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 8:31am: Quote: You don't watch them and yet you have already drawn a conclusion. Yeah. I don't think you watch them either. You could always tell us why you post them. Use your big boy words. But I do watch them and that's why I post them
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Reply #121 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:44am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:40am:

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 8:31am:

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You don't watch them and yet you have already drawn a conclusion.

Yeah. I don't think you watch them either. You could always tell us why you post them. Use your big boy words.

But I do watch them and that's why I post them Wink

I watch most of them too, sir brave Nail.

It's the content they don't show us on our TV news.

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Reply #123 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:54am

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:44am:

I watch lots of things Nail. But I would never take that alone as a reason for posting them.

I suspect you do not understand your own motives. You are on autopilot. Or perhaps you do but you are afraid to acknowledge them.

So you prefer people post their own drivel backed up by nothing ?? Cheesy

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Reply #124 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:09am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:44am:

I watch lots of things Nail. But I would never take that alone as a reason for posting them.

I suspect you do not understand your own motives. You are on autopilot. Or perhaps you do but you are afraid to acknowledge them.

So you prefer people post their own drivel backed up by nothing ?? Cheesy

LOL

Yes. Thinking for yourself is far preferable to posting videos. Backing it up is better of course. But youtube videos are the fallback for people who cannot and do not want to think for themselves. Their very nature - passively spoonfeeding you information at a slow pace in a form that is difficult to refer back to, discourages people from thinking for themselves.

You are a good demonstration of this. It is impossible to discuss anything with you, because we do not even know what you are trying to say. You are literally afraid to say it. The one comical recent example where you tried was your claim that Iran had done half a trillion dollars worth of damage to Israel, but even you were quick to acknowledge that is BS. You cannot even bring yourself to say you agree with the videos - the closest is that you "essentially" agree with them.

So yes, I think of your style as the sesame street of political debate. It is wonderful for toddlers, but I worry about any adults without kids who talk about it.

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Reply #125 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:17am

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:09am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 9:44am:

I watch lots of things Nail. But I would never take that alone as a reason for posting them.

I suspect you do not understand your own motives. You are on autopilot. Or perhaps you do but you are afraid to acknowledge them.

So you prefer people post their own drivel backed up by nothing ?? Cheesy

LOL

Yes. Thinking for yourself is far preferable to posting videos. Backing it up is better of course. But youtube videos are the fallback for people who cannot and do not want to think for themselves. Their very nature - passively spoonfeeding you information at a slow pace in a form that is difficult to refer back to, discourages people from thinking for themselves.

You are a good demonstration of this. It is impossible to discuss anything with you, because we do not even know what you are trying to say. You are literally afraid to say it. The one comical recent example where you tried was your claim that Iran had done half a trillion dollars worth of damage to Israel, but even you were quick to acknowledge that is BS. You cannot even bring yourself to say you agree with the videos - the closest is that you "essentially" agree with them.

So yes, I think of your style as the sesame street of political debate. It is wonderful for toddlers, but I worry about any adults without kids who talk about it.

Well, you are quite welcome to refute what's on those videos FD, instead of continuously trying to shoot the messenger Wink

And regarding the damage done in Israel I backed it up with the video where Scott Ritter made the claim. Unless you know otherwise Wink

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Reply #126 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:42am

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you are quite welcome to refute what's on those videos FD

And what would be the point? There is a mountain of BS available on the internet to refute. Yours is nothing special. And given that you do not even know what you are saying or why you are saying it, it would mean nothing to you either. You would just go on forever posting videos you "essentially" agree with, no matter how many time it was pointed out how gullible you are.

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Reply #127 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 11:03am

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:17am:

Well, you are quite welcome to refute what's on those videos FD, instead of continuously trying to shoot the messenger Wink

And regarding the damage done in Israel I backed it up with the video where Scott Ritter made the claim. Unless you know otherwise Wink

I used to believe Scott Ritter but I discovered that he
makes up lies about most of his stories.

Other bullshit he says refers to the number of Ukrainian casualties in the war.
He quotes extraordinary causality figures - 1,000 dead per day etc -
and downplays Russian losses as being only minor.
The fact is that the true figures are a closely guarded State secret on both sides of the war.
He never mentions that or backs up his numbers in any way - he just makes up a number.

So far - 3 years, 5 months and 5 days = 1,255 days.

1,255 x 1,000 = 1.255 million dead in Ukraine.
I really doubt that.

The Ukrainians say the same about the Russians with nothing to back it up.
So that would be 1.255 million Russians dead too.

Both sides make up bullshit to suit their agenda.
So - Scott must be on the Russian side.
It looks like he's on the Iranian side when he talks about half a $trillion damage to Israel.
It's more like $20 billion although once again
that is a closely guarded secret -
no pictures of damage to military facilities were ever published.
It's illegal to take any pictures with severe consequences -
most likely jail and torture for those who do.

Most YouTube videos are propaganda outlets for various factions.
The first casualty of war is the truth.

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Reply #128 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 11:17am

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

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you are quite welcome to refute what's on those videos FD

And what would be the point? There is a mountain of BS available on the internet to refute. Yours is nothing special. And given that you do not even know what you are saying or why you are saying it, it would mean nothing to you either. You would just go on forever posting videos you "essentially" agree with, no matter how many time it was pointed out how gullible you are.

As opposed to the mountain of BS you believe in from FOX news Cheesy

LOL

Case in point.

The Perfect Example Of News Media BLATANTLY Lying For Israel!

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Reply #129 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 11:40am

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As opposed to the mountain of BS you believe in from FOX news

Have you ever seen me post anything from fox news? You are so detached from reality you think everyone else as detached as you.

Also, are you actually arguing that you deliberately post lies because you think other people do, or that this justifies you paying no attention to whether what you post is true?

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Reply #131 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 5:53pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 10:42am:

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you are quite welcome to refute what's on those videos FD

And what would be the point? There is a mountain of BS available on the internet to refute. Yours is nothing special. And given that you do not even know what you are saying or why you are saying it, it would mean nothing to you either. You would just go on forever posting videos you "essentially" agree with, no matter how many time it was pointed out how gullible you are.

As opposed to the mountain of BS you believe in from FOX news Cheesy

LOL

Case in point.

The Perfect Example Of News Media BLATANTLY Lying For Israel!

Jimmy Dore is a conspiracy theorist, much like you and talks crap, much like you. I get why you have an affinity with him.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore
https://voxukraine.org/en/messing-with-the-truth-disinformation-spread-by-jimmy-...

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #132 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 6:07pm Also Nail, being able to find someone else online who parrots the same conspiracy theories is not evidence. It is groupthink.
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Reply #133 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 6:31pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 5^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

Jimmy Dore is a conspiracy theorist, much like you and talks crap, much like you.
I get why you have an affinity with him.

Would that be in the same vain as Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson?

I watched it again.
Jimmy Dore seems to be backing up everything he says - it's quite well done.
Maybe it's better to try and refute his sources?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: ISRAEL OPENS FIRE AT STARVING PALESTINIANS Reply #134 - Aug 5^th, 2025 at 6:44pm Quote: Jimmy Dore seems to be backing up everything he says - it's quite well done. He's an entertainer. He seems to do a lot of things.
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