and that sector is increasing.
Adding hybrids and almost all new cars would have some degree of electrification

https://www.iea.org/news/more-than-1-in-4-cars-sold-worldwide-this-year-is-set-to-be-electric-as-ev-sales-continue-to-grow

Jasin wrote on May 23^rd, 2025 at 11:49pm:


OBAMA, you festering terminal incel idiot


https://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-stimulus-revived-the-electric-car

aquascoot wrote on May 24^th, 2025 at 7:15am:

Unfortunately, the Chinese suffer from the literally ancient disease of cha bu duo - the tendency to send out products 'close enough, good enough'. This is exacerbated by delivery-to-market quotas often unattainable without shortcuts at the cost of quality control.

To be fair, though, in any manufacturing region, there will always be a trade-off between quality and quantity.

Zeihan is right, and it's not like the Trump administration doesn't already know that... but you can't go to the people with 'we're f~cked'... Fortunately for Trump, Yankists will eat pie-in-the-sky bullshit any day of the week and all day Sunday... after doing godism.

Marla wrote on May 24^th, 2025 at 6:02am:


Look everyone! I got me a TDS

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24^th, 2025 at 12:37pm:


The BYDs are pretty good.

https://bydautomotive.com.au/sealion-7

MeisterEckhart wrote on May 24^th, 2025 at 2:52pm:



You obviously haven't dealt with Ford , Honda or Nissan lately.

An EV is probably going to be more like your TV. It runs til it doesn't then you ditch it.
Battery probably last 7 to 10 years. Replace tyres.
The software will probably be upgradeable like on your phone.

So few parts that need servicing.

Do you take your TV or laptop for a yearly service?

It's very hard to get a vehicle that will go 20 years now.
It's the built in redundancy model.


Buy new through your company .
Write off over 5 to 7 years and rinse and repeat.


My triton is up to 350 k. I keep it because they don't make a manual anymore.
My BT has way too many things that ding
My cx 5 likewise.

I like them manual and low tech.
No one caters for that market unfortunately

I think EVs will last as long as an ICE.

No reason why not, many reasons why.
Electric motors are very reliable and durable.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 25^th, 2025 at 1:14am:


The prominent US marketing professor Scott Galloway says Elon Musk’s decision to implement brutal job and spending cuts within the federal government on behalf of the Trump administration was “one of the greatest brand destructions” ever.

Speaking on Friday’s episode of the popular Pivot podcast, which he co-hosts, Galloway said Trump’s billionaire businessman adviser alienated the customer base of his electrical vehicle manufacturer Tesla – one of his most important holdings – while aligning himself with a president whose allies aren’t interested in the kinds of cars the company makes.

Galloway then cited polling which suggested Tesla had fallen from the eighth-most reputable brand in 2021 to 95th.

“He’s alienated the wrong people,” Galloway remarked. “Three-quarters of Republicans would never consider buying an EV. So he’s cozied up to the people who aren’t interested in EVs.”

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 23^rd, 2025 at 11:04pm:



According to the latest edition of Road Vehicles Australia this nation had 22.3 million registered vehicles in January 2025, of which 259,690 are electric, or just over 1 per cent of the total fleet. Most of that is in passenger vehicles, where there are 249,430 electric cars out of 16.08 million, or roughly 1.6 per cent. In the heavy and commercial fleet, electric vehicles number only in the low thousands out of more than five million vehicles; in percentage terms EVs are a rounding error. This does not count all the off-road vehicles working in mines and agriculture.

There was a flurry of breathless stories recently about the surge in the sale of EVs in March so this column called Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries chief executive Tony Weber to sift the statistics.

“March 2026 was the best month ever recorded for EVs in Australia, with 15,839 sales, or 14.6 per cent of the market,” Weber says. “The other 85 per cent of sales are using either petrol or diesel as part of their propulsion. Given there are around 20 million light vehicles on the roads in Australia, it is clear that we will rely on diesel and petrol supply for decades to drive our fleet.”


The road to a new energy future will be long. EVs will have their place but the power that moves this nation now and in the foreseeable future is liquid. Until we face that reality, we will remain what we have become, supplicants for the fuels we once made ourselves.

As Shakespeare warned, “Our remedies oft in ourselves do lie.” The question is whether we still have the wit and will to find them.

And - for all those who believe owning an EV will be a lot cheaper because they don't have to pay for petrol and pay tax on that petrol:

Australia's EV 'tax' one step closer as government works with states, territories

The Commonwealth is working with state and territory governments to shape a road-user charge that'll be levied on electric vehicle owners.

8 Sep 2025

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Yep, gotta pay for all that road maintenance somehow. Mind you, if the government used all of the money it collected in fuel taxes to fund road maintenance this probably wouldn't be a big problem right now.

And, I strongly suspect the majority (if not all) of the people who currently own an EV or are looking at buying one are not doing it out of any concern about pollution and the environment - they just want to try and save money. Which is fair enough, I guess?