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Reply #60 - May 21st, 2025 at 8:56am
 
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:45am:
Competence is determined firstly by the party when selecting the VP, then voted on by the public during the election. It's not like they keep the VP a secret until after the election

The person selected for VP is usually one who will not upstage, offend or eclipse the presidential candidate; rarely is the VP at least as 'competent' or even close to being 'preordained' in a right of succession.

Think Truman, Nixon, Johnson, Agnew and Ford. The fact that 3 of those 5 became presidents was due to extraordinary circumstances, not competency rewarded by election to the presidency.

In Nison's case, Eisenhower had nothing but contempt for him and did not see him as presidential material... Was he right?

Agnew ultimately resigned over a legal scandal.

Why was Biden chosen as Obama's VP in the first place?
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Reply #61 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:00am
 
Leroy wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:49am:
Obama seemed to have that right, he called forth his most able knight George Clooney to deliver the decree that Biden must cede his power to Kamala.

Something he clearly agonised over...

My guess is that he did not want to support Biden or Harris.

However, the 'right of succession' was likely insisted upon by Biden, who, in keeping with the tradition of choosing a low-quality running mate, chose Harris, who, by that, claimed 'right of succession'.
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Reply #62 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:07am
 
Camelot lives on in the Kennedy dynasty with a genuine loony ruling over health. Celts believed the king controlled weather and wars and failures resulted in sacrificing the king in a bog or swamp.
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Reply #63 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:13am
 
In terms of competent VPs, the most competent who ultimately also became president was, by general consensus, George H.W. Bush.

Bush was an experienced politician, bureaucrat and technocrat who proved to be extraordinarily competent at leading his administration, interacting with Congress and displayinjg diplomatic prowess in dealing with world leaders.

Importantly for Reagan, Bush was uncharismatic and unknown...

But again, in the tradition of low-quality VP picks, he chose Dan Quayle, who, given Bush's low charisma quality, was the blandest of the bland of all VPs since WW2.

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Reply #64 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:24am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 9:00am:
Leroy wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:49am:
Obama seemed to have that right, he called forth his most able knight George Clooney to deliver the decree that Biden must cede his power to Kamala.

Something he clearly agonised over...

My guess is that he did not want to support Biden or Harris.

However, the 'right of succession' was likely insisted upon by Biden, who, in keeping with the tradition of choosing a low-quality running mate, chose Harris, who, by that, claimed 'right of succession'.


Which Biden are you referring to Jill or her husband.
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Reply #65 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:29am
 
Jasin wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:23pm:
To think that incompetent vegetable Biden had access to the BIG RED BUTTON for nukes. How irresponsible can a Political Party get just because their hypocritical Racism narrative didn't like red haired males who seeks peaceful solutions, not twitchy finger warmongering.

Biden's last words at the Bridge on the River Kwai was "My god! What have I done?" before falling on the ignition box to blow everything sky high.

Madness.


Cancer does not make you a complete incompetant like you ya smacking dickhead....You rantings are complete garbage and incoherant bullshit....You really are a stupid prick JaSin!!!

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Reply #66 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:31am
 
Kingship grows with the coronation. The pope was a smily clergyman but gradually grows authority like fungus or mould. The peasants want to see an aura and this energises the performance into gravitas and monarchism.
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Reply #67 - May 21st, 2025 at 9:55am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:56am:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:45am:
Competence is determined firstly by the party when selecting the VP, then voted on by the public during the election. It's not like they keep the VP a secret until after the election

The person selected for VP is usually one who will not upstage, offend or eclipse the presidential candidate; rarely is the VP at least as 'competent' or even close to being 'preordained' in a right of succession.

Think Truman, Nixon, Johnson, Agnew and Ford. The fact that 3 of those 5 became presidents was due to extraordinary circumstances, not competency rewarded by election to the presidency.

In Nison's case, Eisenhower had nothing but contempt for him and did not see him as presidential material... Was he right?

Agnew ultimately resigned over a legal scandal.

Why was Biden chosen as Obama's VP in the first place?


You can keep pretending VP's are incompetent is you like. But I doubt that any of the presidents that selected those VP's, or any of the members of the public that voted for them, will agree with you.

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Reply #68 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:20am
 
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 9:55am:
You can keep pretending VP's are incompetent is you like. But I doubt that any of the presidents that selected those VP's, or any of the members of the public that voted for them, will agree with you.


What evidence do you have to doubt that any of the presidents who selected those VPs did not rank competence over not being upstaged?

History demonstrates that the VP is unlikely to be the most competent or popular second choice for president... the VP choice is nearly always chosen as the best, least threat to the presidential candidate of those available.

Most VPs did not ultimately become presidents, even after they ran for the role.

While the republic did begin with VPs becoming presidents in their own right (Adams and Jefferson), for most of the 19th and early 20th centuries this was not the case.

Since WW2, however, there have been only 6 VPs, out of 18, who became president, with 3 of those 6 ascending to the presidency due to the death or resignation of the president.
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Reply #69 - May 21st, 2025 at 10:28am
 
In the case of Johnson as Kennedy's VP, JFK had to overrule his own family to name Johnson as his running mate.

Johnson had all the wrong stuff to be president - corrupt, barely educated and perceived as backward - a Texas hick - so he had that going for him... but he was a very powerful southern Democrat with decades of impressive experience in Congress, so he could have been dangerous to a prospective JFK administration.

JFK, however, was doing the numbers. He calculated (correctly) that Johnson would bring the entire South with him, of mostly rural, backward white trash who had a supreme contempt for the aristocratic Kennedys.
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Reply #70 - May 22nd, 2025 at 8:15am
 
A very honest and revealing retrospective on the state of Biden's cognitive decline and its cover-up, by Ezra Klein and Jake Tapper, the latter who co-wrote a book arguing  “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again”.

The book details the Democrats' inner sanctum's fear that Harris would be the 'next in line' for candidacy if they didn't support Biden. This is a shocking revelation, given that these were the same people who put Harris's name forward as the ideal running mate for Biden.

It's another clear example of how the vice president is specifically chosen as the best, least-appropriate fit for the role of president, chosen not to upstage, eclipse, or threaten the presidential candidate's popularity. This, despite the 'tradition' that the VP is the presumptive heir-in-waiting for the presidency.

How Groupthink Protected Biden and Reelected Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7-Ij8l9jI
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Reply #71 - May 22nd, 2025 at 8:26am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:20am:
What evidence do you have to doubt that any of the presidents who selected those VPs did not rank competence over not being upstaged?


Ranking?  Cheesy moving goal posts again?
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Reply #72 - May 22nd, 2025 at 8:28am
 
'Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy (1890-1995) was the mother of President John F. Kennedy. She was known for her strong influence within the Kennedy family and her advocacy for mental health awareness, particularly after her daughter, Rosemary, experienced mental illness.'

Donny was quick to get Robbie as a fellow kook, along with JD the loopy bigmouth. Their cabinet meetings are recorded for medic analysis.
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Reply #73 - May 22nd, 2025 at 8:33am
 
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2025 at 8:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 10:20am:
What evidence do you have to doubt that any of the presidents who selected those VPs did not rank competence over not being upstaged?


Ranking?  Cheesy moving goal posts again?

So, no evidence, then...

You might want to research how many VPs went on to do nothing in politics, not just not being the second-best choice for president (something that Washington and the other founders imagined the VP to be), and compare them to the likes of former VPs Adams and Jefferson, after Washington's presidency.
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Reply #74 - May 22nd, 2025 at 8:39am
 
Monarchy manages to get the right stuff at the top.
Elizabeth got in ahead of sex-pot boozer Margaret.
William is up there ahead of ding-bat Harry.
Charles wandered in before Andrew the Headlines.
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