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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #75 - May 20^th, 2025 at 9:02pm

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

lee wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 1:41pm:

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

do you actually believe the authorities didn't chase him, because they were worried ozpolians might pillar him?

No petal.

then why did you say that was why you wouldn't report him to the authorities? Cheesy

Yes, you are this stupid, thicko.

Frame it. Let the grandkids know it.

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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #76 - May 20^th, 2025 at 9:13pm

Frank wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 9:02pm:

John Smith wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

lee wrote on May 20^th, 2025 at 1:41pm:

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2025 at 6:05pm:

do you actually believe the authorities didn't chase him, because they were worried ozpolians might pillar him?

No petal.

then why did you say that was why you wouldn't report him to the authorities? Cheesy

Yes, you are this stupid, thicko.

Frame it. Let the grandkids know it.

having your periods again frannie?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39731 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #77 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:27pm So, my views are reflected in other quarters. This bloke has serious clout. What he says mirrors what I have been saying here. And...it will not end with merely this report, trust me. Link. Google the bloke's credentials.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20331 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #78 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier.
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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #79 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:45pm

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Wink

Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier. Wink

BRS murdered unarmed POWs -

he's no better than Breaker Morant who was executed for war crimes.

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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #80 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:49pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-20/ben-roberts-smith-federal-court-release-r...

Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case appeal dismissal judgment released by Federal Court

By Ethan Rix

Topic:Courts

Tue 20 May

In short:

The Federal Court has released its reasons for dismissing Ben Roberts-Smith's defamation appeal around war crimes last Friday.

The justices found the evidence was "sufficiently cogent to support the findings" the war veteran "murdered four Afghan men" on deployment.

What's next?
Mr Roberts-Smith said he would seek a High Court challenge to appeal dismissal to reopen the matter with fresh evidence.

The Federal Court has published its reasons for dismissing war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith's bid to overturn his defamation loss, which found the Victoria Cross recipient complicit in war crimes while deployed to Afghanistan.

The former Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) corporal launched an appeal after losing his defamation case against three Nine-owned newspapers following a civil trial, which ran for more than 100 days over 2021 and 2022.

Mr Roberts-Smith's appeal, which was heard in February last year, was unanimously thrown out by the full bench of the Federal Court on Friday.

Federal Court Justices Geoffrey Kennett, Nye Perram and Anna Katzmann found "the evidence was sufficiently cogent to support the findings that

the appellant [Mr Roberts-Smith] murdered four Afghan men".

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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #81 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:52pm

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Wink

Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier. Wink

That will happen but this bloke is also after the people who allowed it to happen, as we all should be.

Trust me, I know.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15267 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #82 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:58pm He could become Witness L like in the Timor bugging case and get himself jail time on national security grounds.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20331 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #83 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 6:19pm Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:52pm: That will happen but this bloke is also after the people who allowed it to happen, What will happen? The question was clear, the answer not so much.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20331 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #84 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 6:20pm Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:45pm: BRS murdered unarmed POWs - Civil trial, different standards of proof.
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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #85 - May 22^nd, 2025 at 7:43pm

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:45pm:

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Wink

Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier. Wink

BRS murdered unarmed POWs -

he's no better than Breaker Morant who was executed for war crimes.

You are the worst Cultural Marxist, Boo Boo.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39731 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #86 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 8:38am lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 6:19pm: Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:52pm: That will happen but this bloke is also after the people who allowed it to happen, What will happen? The question was clear, the answer not so much. Deliberately.
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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #87 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 8:45am

Frank wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:45pm:

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Wink

Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier. Wink

BRS murdered unarmed POWs -

he's no better than Breaker Morant who was executed for war crimes.

You are the worst Cultural Marxist, Boo Boo.

I am not on the list of Cultural Marxists.

I created that list of shame.

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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #88 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 9:50am

Aussie wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:27pm:

So, my views are reflected in other quarters. This bloke has serious clout. What he says mirrors what I have been saying here. And...it will not end with merely this report, trust me.

Link.

Google the bloke's credentials.

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Following a career spanning nearly thirty years in the Australian Public Service, he was Chief of Staff to Minister for Climate Change and Industry Greg Combet (2009 to 2013) and senior advisor to the Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs, Senator Penny Wong (2017-19).

Say no more. Grin

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Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far
Reply #89 - May 23^rd, 2025 at 9:52am

Bobby. wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:45pm:

lee wrote on May 22^nd, 2025 at 5:44pm:

Ooh Australia Institute. Impressive. Wink

Civil standard of proof and he wants war crimes tribunals which require more, a criminal finding. Why doesn't he want a criminal finding on Ben Roberts-Smith, it would make the task easier. Wink

BRS murdered unarmed POWs -

he's no better than Breaker Morant who was executed for war crimes.

You don't know that for a fact.

You're just an easily lead plonker.

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