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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #45 - May 18^th, 2025 at 5:56pm Aussie wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:28pm: It brought him undone, because he did the deeds, and for no other reason. And you have certified proof of that? Remember it was not a criminal prosecution, beyond reasonable doubt. But if you have new evidence then you should bring it.
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Reply #46 - May 18^th, 2025 at 6:00pm

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Why?

You are the one said take it up with the authorities. Roll Eyes

I know you are a moron so I'll type slowly. Leeroy asked why the others weren't named in court. I merely suggested he ask the authorities if he wanted to know why.

Do you get it yet ya dumbarse? Or do I need to use braille to explain it?

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Reply #47 - May 18^th, 2025 at 6:25pm

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Why?

You are the one said take it up with the authorities. Roll Eyes

I know you are a moron so I'll type slowly. Leeroy asked why the others weren't named in court. I merely suggested he ask the authorities if he wanted to know why.

Do you get it yet ya dumbarse? Or do I need to use braille to explain it?

You have made a mistake there John.

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Reply #48 - May 18^th, 2025 at 6:35pm

Leroy wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:25pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:53pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:31pm:

Why?

You are the one said take it up with the authorities. Roll Eyes

I know you are a moron so I'll type slowly. Leeroy asked why the others weren't named in court. I merely suggested he ask the authorities if he wanted to know why.

Do you get it yet ya dumbarse? Or do I need to use braille to explain it?

You have made a mistake there John.

Sorry, you're right. it was Lee himself ... and still he's struggling Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #49 - May 18^th, 2025 at 6:44pm John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:00pm: Leeroy asked why the others weren't named in court. I merely suggested he ask the authorities if he wanted to know why. No. I asked why he wasn't named in court. I am not Leeroy. Dumbarse, And I answered you.
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Reply #50 - May 18^th, 2025 at 6:51pm

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:44pm:

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:00pm:

Leeroy asked why the others weren't named in court. I merely suggested he ask the authorities if he wanted to know why.

No. I asked why he wasn't named in court. I am not Leeroy. Dumbarse, Grin

And I answered you. Grin

and i told you to ask the authorities why he wasn't named you dumbarse. It's no good asking me why someone else didn't do something.
And with so many morons, it's easy to confuse one for the other.

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Reply #51 - May 18^th, 2025 at 7:46pm

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:51pm:

and i told you to ask the authorities why he wasn't named you dumbarse.

And I replied -

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 12:31pm:

Why? So they can pillory him also?

Nothing to do with the authorities, but your line of reasoning, or lack thereof. Grin

John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 6:51pm:

And with so many morons, it's easy to confuse one for the other.

So who do you get most confused with? You and who? Interested people want to know. Wink

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Reply #52 - May 18^th, 2025 at 8:03pm

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

Nothing to do with the authorities,

well who do you think was going to pillar him? the people you quoted who had already written about him?

Christ you're a moron Roll Eyes

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 7:46pm:

So who do you get most confused with?

you don't confuse me with anyone. Thanks, Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #53 - May 19^th, 2025 at 11:09am John Smith wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 8:03pm: well who do you think was going to pillar him? There are even forum members here who pilloried Roberts-Smith, once it was made public. And you believe it wouldn't happen again? You really are thick.
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Reply #54 - May 19^th, 2025 at 11:51am

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:48pm:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:45pm:

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 5:49pm:

Criminalizing the killing of the enemy by soldiers w

you mean killing unarmed people who have their arms tied behind their backs

they're soldiers, not executioners.

Enemy.

We sent them to kill the enemy.
They did. Good.

only in your head. They were sent to defeat the enemy, not kill them. There's a difference

Yeah you would say something that dumb.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #55 - May 19^th, 2025 at 12:02pm David Hicks was fortunate not to be shot on the spot by Yanks in Kabul. His coat had the letter E for 'enemy' and a target printed on.
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Reply #56 - May 19^th, 2025 at 12:55pm

John Smith wrote on May 17^th, 2025 at 9:57am:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 9:15pm:

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:48pm:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:45pm:

John Smith wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 5:49pm:

Criminalizing the killing of the enemy by soldiers w

you mean killing unarmed people who have their arms tied behind their backs

they're soldiers, not executioners.

Enemy.

We sent them to kill the enemy.
They did. Good.

only in your head. They were sent to defeat the enemy, not kill them. There's a difference

No there isn't.

the fact that war crimes tribunals even exist proves just what a moron you are

When did they come into existence?

There was a 1 off in 1945 with the Nuremburg Trials for the Nazis who gassed & murdered 6 million Jewish civilians - fairly obvious.

Then the UN established the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in 1993.

In 1994 the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR). Where nearly 1 million people were either murdered, bashed/attacked & raped.

The supposedly independent International Criminal Court wasn't established until 2002.

They usually don't deal with 1 soldier over 1 alleged incident.

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Reply #57 - May 19^th, 2025 at 12:58pm

Aussie wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

lee wrote on May 17^th, 2025 at 7:19pm:

John Smith wrote on May 17^th, 2025 at 7:05pm:

bang bang you're a moron

You were the one said "They were sent to defeat the enemy, not kill them." Dufus.

"This meant that if you were an Afghan riding a motorcycle in a certain fashion near Australian troops, or were seen talking on a radio or mobile phone, you could be considered fair game.

The documents seen by the ABC stress that mere suspicion, or instinct, was not enough, though. There had to be a solid basis for that suspicion, based on knowledge of insurgent “tactics, techniques and procedures”."

.....

"On that occasion, one of the dead men, Mullah Janan Akhund, was seen talking on a radio as an Australian helicopter was about to land, then “assessed by SOTG members to be manoeuvring to gain tactical advantage through a covered position and potentially accessing a cache of weapons”.

He was shot multiple times in the head and chest by two Australians, including Victoria Cross winner Ben Roberts-Smith."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-11/afghan-files-australias-secretive-rules-o...

And yet only Ben Roberts-Smith was pilloried. I guess it was the VC wotdunnit. Wink

Only he was so big in the head with the wealth/influence of his Father and Mates (Stokes) to start the

sh

it fight. Dumb is as dumb does.

What's your excuse?

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Reply #58 - May 19^th, 2025 at 1:06pm

Aussie wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 5:28pm:

lee wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 4:40pm:

Aussie wrote on May 18^th, 2025 at 4:09pm:

Only he was so big in the head with the wealth/influence of his Father and Mates (Stokes) to start the poo fight.

So you think people shouldn't fight against allegations against them? Grin

Take out the most visible. Roll Eyes

I'm glad he did 'fight.' It brought him undone, because he did the deeds, and for no other reason. When yer own mates in the Army desert you, you should know the best thing to do is bunker down in retirement with your VC still on your chest, and just ignore the noise.

Nah, BRS thought he was above all that because Daddy is Daddy and Daddy has powerful mates with very long pockets.

Zero sympathy from me and full on antagonism/scorn/derision/get the bastard, big ~ and also get all the bastards above him who allowed the climate to exist. He will be done by the Military when he has exhausted all appeals. At the very least, the VC will be taken off his chest, and he will also be in a prison.

He cannot survive (unless the High Court does something extraordinarily remarkable) the scathing, fatal findings of the original Court and those of the Appeal Court.

Mates? ..... hardly. Bunch of piss weak backstabbers.

Typical of the types of young blokes today. Don't like being told what to do.

I have heard Smith wasn't an easy man to get on with - but that's probably the sort of NCO Patrol Commander that's required in a conflict zone where it's difficult to know who the enemy is.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 15182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Ben loses appeal - costs $35 million so far Reply #59 - May 19^th, 2025 at 1:50pm https://www.ag.gov.au/national-security/australias-counter-terrorism-laws Anti terror laws are applied to convict law-breakers such as: 1) Australian Army 2) Gnads. This is because of extremist terrorists knocking off the World Trade Center before the Australians had a go at it.
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