From annihilation

We got the token aboriginal jumping ship who can barely articulate a sentence .

The nationals absolutely furious over the move

Caravan the absolute pillock challenging littleproud for leadership

Susssan and cayman Islands running for opposition leader

I'm on the money saying you're destined for WA coalition status , complete irrelevance 

Daves2017 wrote Yesterday at 9:29pm:



that 'great start' you claim is just a reshuffling of the deck chairs. The liberal titanic will sink if that's all they have to offer

Labor majority government wrote Yesterday at 9:36pm:


I actually think they'd do better. They don't usually run against the nats so as to not split the vote. If they did, the nats would be even more irrelevant than they are now. And they're already pretty irrelevant. Besides, if it ever came to a time where it was a hung parliament, the nats would still join with the libs over labor.

Daves2017 wrote Yesterday at 10:23pm:



the libs need to move away from the politics of division and actually work towards australias future. They need to get rid of all the old entrenched warhorses who don't know any better. Aussies are sick of them. Put in fresh blood, conservative, but not tied to mining interests or culture wars.

The teals are generally conservative. They just aren't bigots nor do they work for clive or gina. If the libs can get them back on side, they will win back many inner city seats

Daves2017 wrote Yesterday at 9:29pm:


The Liberal Party has only once in their history managed to scrape together enough seats to govern without relying on the Nationals, and even then, it was a wafer-thin majority of 75, precisely the number required, leaving them with no breathing room whatsoever, and that was under Howard.

Unsurprisingly, they maintained the Coalition, not just for strategic coherence but also for critical Senate support.

Since that high-water mark, the Liberals have been in steady decline, lurching ever further to the right and alienating the urban, educated constituencies they once counted on. They're bleeding relevance in precisely the electorates they need to win, and their ideological drift is costing them.

They can't afford to jettison the Nationals,  not least because the Nationals generally refrain from running candidates in the Liberals’ urbane heartlands. The arrangement isn’t just a marriage of convenience anymore, it’s a survival pact, at least for the Libs.

Anyone calling for a split between the Liberals and Nationals is effectively calling for the Liberals to consign themselves to the fringes. They’d become a sectional, angry rump,  loud, reactive, but electorally impotent.

Because let’s be honest: the world is watching the economic wreckage left by far-right governments clinging to trickle-down dogma and corporate mateship. It’s not working. The wealth of a few is being extracted at the expense of the many, and the many are starting to fight back.

If you’re still backing the few,  still lining up behind the people selling out your future,  then it’s not just ignorance anymore. It’s wilful self-deception.

And I, for one, am proud that Australians, at least for now,  have had the clarity to reject that model of politics.

Gnads wrote Today at 11:11am:


Chrsit you are a dumbarse.

Albo just had the biggest win labors had in decades ... he's not trying to change labors course,  the public are obviously happy with the course he's on

John Smith wrote Today at 11:16am:


Selectively edited my post dumbarse- you dishonest tnuc.

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As dishonest as the day is long.

Daves2017 wrote Yesterday at 9:29pm:


Lay out your policy ideas for us.  PM me if you wish.

This country needs a NEW party of some kind - the DIFFICULTY for Liberals in re-birthing/re-badging themselves is that they carry far too much dead wood.  Even a full knock-down and rebuild will not persuade the People in sufficient time to overturn the Stalinist putsch.

Always remember that women, New Labor's 'allies' and 'chosen ones' and 'preferred ones', are natural Fascists and conspiracists by nature and carry a huge chip on their shoulders from not being allowed jobs in dangerous and dirty industries that saw your grand-fathers die in their sixties ... we gave them power over the home and now they think that can translate easily into the real world..... doesn't quite work that way.

Like tradie men on the work site - they talk big all day and then cannot see that this does not apply at home with the gentle ones in one's life.... similarly 'the tea club' went on all day solving all the world's problems, and then cannot see that their solutions do not fit into real life.