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Reply #75 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:02am

Leroy wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:45am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:39am:

He wasn't there, though.

So what was the motive for killing the other people?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Maybe she is just crazy and wanted to murder as many people as possible?

Dorrie Evans effect.

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Dorrie Evans, a character played by actress Pat McDonald,
is best known for her portrayal as a comical, gossiping, and meddling character
in the Australian soap opera "Number 96".
She became a fan favorite for her recurring sayings,
particularly "Why wasn't I told?", and her malapropisms like calling headaches "migrants".

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #76 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:02am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:49am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:39am:

He wasn't there, though.

So what was the motive for killing the other people?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Maybe she is just crazy and wanted to murder as many people as possible?

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

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Reply #77 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:05am

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:49am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:39am:

He wasn't there, though.

So what was the motive for killing the other people?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Maybe she is just crazy and wanted to murder as many people as possible?

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

How was she scorned by the people who died?

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Reply #78 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:06am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:05am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:49am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:39am:

He wasn't there, though.

So what was the motive for killing the other people?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Maybe she is just crazy and wanted to murder as many people as possible?

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

How was she scorned by the people who died?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #79 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:05am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:49am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 10:39am:

He wasn't there, though.

So what was the motive for killing the other people?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Maybe she is just crazy and wanted to murder as many people as possible?

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned.

How was she scorned by the people who died?

Patience my son - patience -

just follow the trial and we'll all find out.

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #81 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #82 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

Who knows what was going on inside that woman's head?

The prosecution only has to prove that she murdered them.

BTW - she won't take the stand so they can't ask her any questions. Roll Eyes

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #83 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:45am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

She has kids with her ex husband. Assuming, her aim was to kill her ex husband, his parents, husband's aunt + her husband. So, if they all die at the same time, then the inheritance will mainly go to her and her kids right?

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #84 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 3:37pm

Money troubles with ex hubby:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Updated May 2, 2025 — 1.42pmfirst published at 10.08am

Erin Patterson trial LIVE updates:

Estranged husband Simon Patterson gives evidence on tense texts with wife,
family rift over birthday invites and child support as mushroom cook case continues.

1.42pm

‘You have to shut that conversation down’: Judge warns jurors against chit-chat

By Marta Pascual Juanola

Supreme Court Justice Christopher Beale has now concluded today’s proceedings by reminding jurors about the extensive media coverage of the case, and the fact they may come into contact with people over the weekend who know they are serving on the jury and will want to discuss the case.

“You have to shut that conversation down,” Beale said.

Beale also reminded jurors that they should ignore any information about the case online, and in the media, and urged them to “switch off”, enjoy their weekend and come back to court refreshed next week.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #85 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 3:40pm

tickleandrose wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

She has kids with her ex husband. Assuming, her aim was to kill her ex husband, his parents, husband's aunt + her husband. So, if they all die at the same time, then the inheritance will mainly go to her and her kids right?

Depends if she's in the will or not.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #86 - May 2^nd, 2025 at 3:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:

tickleandrose wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

She has kids with her ex husband. Assuming, her aim was to kill her ex husband, his parents, husband's aunt + her husband. So, if they all die at the same time, then the inheritance will mainly go to her and her kids right?

Depends if she's in the will or not.

Reminds me of an old Steptoe and Son episode:

Steptoe was discussing his life insurance policy with Harold - and said -
"I'm worth more dead than alive" with a smile on his face.
Harold turned to Steptoe and in a slow serious voice and face said -
"yes - you are aren't you"
Steptoe then had a look of horror and fear on his face. LOL

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #87 - May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:06am

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 1^st, 2025 at 10:30pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 1^st, 2025 at 3:41pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on May 1^st, 2025 at 12:29am:

I'd like to see clear evidence that she had those books, and that she was a forager etc...

It's called 'chain of evidence' --someone says she had books on fungi - there are receipts or records of her purchasing such books or they are in evidence at her home....... otherwise it's hearsay.

This is like Martin Bryant - AFTER the event tall tales arose in the boondocks of Tasmania about how he was known to grab the steering wheel of the car his late benefactor drove and such and how he must therefore have caused her death and his own serious injury etc and thus gained her property and inheritance ... and that he was out shooting all the time and was an expert shot, which does not gel with his testimony on record and is not supported by ammunition purchase receipts etc ... and that he was known to be weird (well - he has a very low IQ) and loved surfing and didn't shoot animals ...

Somehow none of that gels with some alleged sudden urge to go down to the Broad Arrow and shoot some Asians/Japs or something ..... and in the absence of opportunity to do that - start shooting anyone in sight.... it just doesn't gel.

Where is the chain of evidence? You can't just insert rumours and stories from neighbours... Where Are The Books? Where are the people who went mushrooming with her in person to testify to her outstanding knowledge of all things fungi- including knowing the difference between the death fungi and others?

I'm starting to get the feeling she might walk on this one..... and it's only just begun......

Police have CCTV of her dumping a food dehydrator at the tip after the murders that contained death cap mushrooms despite her claiming she never owned a food dehydrator....Death cap mushrooms are not sold in Australia....Her mobile phone showed she was in the area in the days leading up to the murders where death cap mushrooms grow....Her relatives were poisoned with death cap mushrooms she fed them but avaoided consuming the deadly meal herself....Relatives have confirmed she was well aware what death cap mushrooms are....Yes definatly innocent???

Roll Eyes

I didn't say she was innocent - I said she might walk on the evidence and how it is interpreted. Wait for the actual Evidence in court - not tales of what 'relatives' say etc.... on local tall tales you'd likely be hung tomorrow at dawn....

We are all aware of the dumping of the dehydrator etc.... it's how it is interpreted that matters. Her defence team started off saying she panicked after the others fell ill... meaning they are not contesting the dehydrator.... now all the other things have to come together to avoid any doubt.... and that means people don't just repeat local stories - they must have first hand evidence.

Now I'm no chef - but why dehydrate mushrooms for beef wellington? I thought they were cooked whole in the sauce...

OK - 'mushroom puree' before baking...... who dehydrates mushrooms to make a puree? Anyone - I'm not a chef or a mushroom cook....?? I hate mushrooms... now I know why...

Mushrooms go in fresh - whole or sliced - at my place.

You'd only use dehydrated if there were no fresh available - surely?

But she could be the type that goes out when wild edibles are in season and picks the lot - uses some and dehydrates the rest so they keep longer.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #88 - May 3^rd, 2025 at 10:12am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 3:40pm:

tickleandrose wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:45am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:18am:

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2^nd, 2025 at 11:07am:

Seems strange that the motive has never been mentioned.

Yes but I think I read that motive doesn't have to be proven?

Follow today here:

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-al...

Sure. The evidence suggests she's guilty.

But there just seems to be no motive at all.

It's very, very strange.

She has kids with her ex husband. Assuming, her aim was to kill her ex husband, his parents, husband's aunt + her husband. So, if they all die at the same time, then the inheritance will mainly go to her and her kids right?

Depends if she's in the will or not.

She doesn't have to be in their wills ... if her children are then she as their guardian will be the trustee and have power over any assets or money left to her children.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 120634 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #89 - May 3^rd, 2025 at 11:01am Looks like Erin Patterson will do time for what she's done - a lot of time.
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