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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41862 Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #30 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:35pm Guilty. How did she get the poisonous mushrooms?
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Reply #31 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Guilty.

How did she get the poisonous mushrooms?

She went foraging for mushrooms in a place
where it is known that death caps can be found.
Then – death cap spores were found in the dehydrator that she tried to get rid of.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/erin-patterson-trial-live-updates-da...

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3.39pm Patterson did factory resets of phone
3.33pm Patterson posted about dehydrating, ‘hiding powdered mushrooms in everything’
3.04pm Doctors concluded guests’ illness were ‘unsurvivable’
1.55pm Erin Patterson reported eating half her lunch
12.57pm Where did the mushrooms come from? A phone call from the hospital
12.20pm ‘I’ve puzzled about it since lunch’: Heather wondered why Erin served her guests with different plates
9.59am What you need to know about the mushroom lunch trial
9.46am Who is who in the family tragedy

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #32 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:44pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:35pm:

Guilty.

How did she get the poisonous mushrooms?

She also did not eat any of the mushrooms herself???

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The prosecution said Ms Patterson had posted online about using a food dehydrator to cook mushrooms, and wrote she had been "hiding powdered mushrooms in everything", the prosecution said

The prosecution also said Ms Patterson's fingerprints were found on a food dehydrator she was seen on CCTV dumping after the lunch. The dehydrator tested positive for death cap mushrooms, the jury was told

The prosecution alleged Ms Patterson lied about buying the dried mushrooms from an Asian grocery store, and that mobile phone data suggests she travelled to where death cap mushrooms grew

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c23054k1x05t

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90421 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #33 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:46pm She had a smaller, different coloured plate all for her self and without mushrooms.... this looks bad...
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #34 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 12:07pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 9:28am:

There should be 12 posters good and true who can be sworn to allegiance and probity all. Cheap and reliable.

You mean 12 jurors?

I just thought of an out -

What if someone sabotaged/contaminated the edible mushrooms in a shop
by adding one death cap into the mix of good mushrooms? Undecided

She couldn't say where the 'bought' them ..... sounds like Nightfall, Pilgrim...

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33531 Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #35 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 7:15pm chimera wrote on Apr 29^th, 2025 at 4:38pm: If the welcome to country went wrong that badly, she would have lost her smokey gum leaves. You must have gum between the ears - it wasn't gum leaves that killed her relatives.
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Reply #36 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 7:22pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

She had a smaller, different coloured plate all for her self and without mushrooms.... this looks bad...

And she invited them over using sympathy -
she made up a fake story about how she had cancer -
that's evil.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c23054k1x05t

Prosecutors alleged that Ms Patterson lied about having cancer,
using it as a pretence to have the adults at lunch without Ms Patterson's children present -
the defence denied this and said Ms Patterson did have cancer.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #37 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 7:22pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 6:46pm:

She had a smaller, different coloured plate all for her self and without mushrooms.... this looks bad...

And she invited them over using sympathy -
she made up a fake story about how she had cancer -
that's evil.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c23054k1x05t

Prosecutors alleged that Ms Patterson lied about having cancer,
using it as a pretence to have the adults at lunch without Ms Patterson's children present -
the defence denied this and said Ms Patterson did have cancer.

The shock of arrest caused a miracle cure....

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Leroy Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 5285 Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #38 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:27pm I had the same feeling when Lindy Chamberlain was tried by media, she might be guilty but if she is innocent justice will not prevail.
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #39 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:33pm

Leroy wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:27pm:

I had the same feeling when Lindy Chamberlain was tried by media,
she might be guilty but if she is innocent justice will not prevail.

Yes -

Lindy Chamberlain?
The forensic evidence mixed up foetal blood and an anti-rust chemical from the car.

Erin Patterson -
could the forensic tests for what I assume are death cap mushroom spores
in the dehydrator be wrong and in fact they were ordinary mushroom spores ?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120760 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #40 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:42pm What do death caps look like?
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #41 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 8:50pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 30^th, 2025 at 7:15pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 29^th, 2025 at 4:38pm:

If the welcome to country went wrong that badly, she would have lost her smokey gum leaves.

You must have gum between the ears - it wasn't gum leaves that killed her relatives.

Thanks, now I understand how your mind fails to work properly.

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Reply #42 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 11:02pm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/beef-wellington-mushroom-po...

Survivor of suspected mushroom poisoning was ‘experienced forager’ of wild fungi

‘Patterson family would pick mushrooms each year when they were in season,’ family friend claims

Namita Singh
Wednesday 16 August 2023

Erin Patterson, 46, was known to expertly pick wild mushrooms, and was “very good at foraging”, a family friend was quoted as saying by Daily MailAustralia.

“The Patterson family (including Erin and estranged husband Simon) would pick mushrooms each year when they were in season,” the friend said.

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Reply #43 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 11:05pm

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/erin-patterson-family-friend-claims-deadl...

Erin Patterson: Family friend claims deadly mushroom cook
had collection of books about fungi in her home

Wayne Flower and Candace Sutton
Daily Mail
August 19, 2023

Erin Patterson had a collection of books about mushrooms that she kept at her home where her fatal beef wellington lunch took place, according to a family friend.

The friend claimed the shelves of her family home at Leongatha included books about delicious yet potentially deadly fungi.

It was reported this week that Ms Patterson, 48, was an “experienced forager” who — like many families in the area — picked mushrooms when they were in season.

The friend said she had a number of books on the subject in her library.

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Reply #44 - May 1^st, 2025 at 12:29am

I'd like to see clear evidence that she had those books, and that she was a forager etc...

It's called 'chain of evidence' --someone says she had books on fungi - there are receipts or records of her purchasing such books or they are in evidence at her home....... otherwise it's hearsay.

This is like Martin Bryant - AFTER the event tall tales arose in the boondocks of Tasmania about how he was known to grab the steering wheel of the car his late benefactor drove and such and how he must therefore have caused her death and his own serious injury etc and thus gained her property and inheritance ... and that he was out shooting all the time and was an expert shot, which does not gel with his testimony on record and is not supported by ammunition purchase receipts etc ... and that he was known to be weird (well - he has a very low IQ) and loved surfing and didn't shoot animals ...

Somehow none of that gels with some alleged sudden urge to go down to the Broad Arrow and shoot some Asians/Japs or something ..... and in the absence of opportunity to do that - start shooting anyone in sight.... it just doesn't gel.

Where is the chain of evidence? You can't just insert rumours and stories from neighbours... Where Are The Books? Where are the people who went mushrooming with her in person to testify to her outstanding knowledge of all things fungi- including knowing the difference between the death fungi and others?

I'm starting to get the feeling she might walk on this one..... and it's only just begun......

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