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Reply #165 - Jun 3rd, 2025 at 11:14pm
 
 Could Patterson go the well-trodden "diminished responsibility" path?
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Reply #166 - Jun 3rd, 2025 at 11:18pm
 
Double post.

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Reply #167 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:14am
 
Only if they can eventually providing some proof she actually put the mushrooms in the meal.

I’m sure eventually they will submit some proof to the court after all the heresy and this is our vibe of what occurred unproven rubbish is finally done with.

The way it’s going atm I suggest I could argue equally as well “ a dingo” put the deadly mushrooms in the meal!

Why bother with proof when you don’t have any?

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Reply #168 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 8:03am
 
The dingo did it! Grin
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Reply #169 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 11:44am
 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-04/blog-erin-patterson-trial-wednesday-june-...

9m ago

We return to the preparation of the deadly lunch
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We're back on the meal preparations, as Erin outlines how she fried the steaks on both sides, then let them rest.

Then she assembled the beef Wellingtons.

"I used the egg flip again to, I guess, lift a little bit [of the duxelles] out of the oven try and put on each steak ... and then wrapped each one in filo, and then wrapped each one in puff pastry," she says.

She says she made six of the individual beef Wellingtons.

"At the appropriate time, I put them in the oven ... I wanted them to be out and resting by 12:30 [when guests arrived]," she says.
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Reply #170 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:23pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:14am:
Only if they can eventually providing some proof she actually put the mushrooms in the meal.

I’m sure eventually they will submit some proof to the court after all the heresy and this is our vibe of what occurred unproven rubbish is finally done with.

The way it’s going atm I suggest I could argue equally as well “ a dingo” put the deadly mushrooms in the meal!

Why bother with proof when you don’t have any?



She made the meal - she put the mushrooms in the meal - the only question that she is trying to raise is whether it was deliberate or not.  That's why her history of lying about things is being explored.

It is not enough to say that she is guilty because she can be proven to have lied... this is a criminal case - not a Deuce case of 'just my opinion' said the judge - that she lied about other things does not mean she is lying about this.

It is clear she DID put the mushrooms in the meal - she is accepting that - her defence is that she did it inadvertently - which is contradicted by the fact that she alone did not get sick at the meal time.  Her kids eating leftovers - of the dish she specially prepared for herself, is not a valid argument.  If the kids DID eat leftovers from the full meal - they would have fallen ill as well.
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Reply #171 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 5:06pm
 

So now she claims that she ate too much cake after the beef wellington meal and
so she made herself vomit and that's why she didn't get sick from the mushrooms.
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Reply #172 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 5:37pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 12:23pm:
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:14am:
Only if they can eventually providing some proof she actually put the mushrooms in the meal.

I’m sure eventually they will submit some proof to the court after all the heresy and this is our vibe of what occurred unproven rubbish is finally done with.

The way it’s going atm I suggest I could argue equally as well “ a dingo” put the deadly mushrooms in the meal!

Why bother with proof when you don’t have any?



She made the meal - she put the mushrooms in the meal - the only question that she is trying to raise is whether it was deliberate or not.  That's why her history of lying about things is being explored.

It is not enough to say that she is guilty because she can be proven to have lied... this is a criminal case - not a Deuce case of 'just my opinion' said the judge - that she lied about other things does not mean she is lying about this.

It is clear she DID put the mushrooms in the meal - she is accepting that - her defence is that she did it inadvertently - which is contradicted by the fact that she alone did not get sick at the meal time.  Her kids eating leftovers - of the dish she specially prepared for herself, is not a valid argument.  If the kids DID eat leftovers from the full meal - they would have fallen ill as well.


So if she did it unintentionally that’s man slaughter not murder?

Yes or no?
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Reply #173 - Jun 5th, 2025 at 1:10pm
 
Latest news from trial:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-05/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-blog...


4m ago

Prosecution continues on Erin's conversation at hospital

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Dr Rogers suggests that Erin lied to the doctor about mushrooming.

Erin responds that "nobody was interested in what I did months and years ago" during those conversations, and that everything was all centred specifically on the meal.

"Are you telling this jury that you understood Professor Stuart to be asking you questions only about the beef Wellington?" Dr Rogers asks.

"I believe that's what I understood at the time, yes," Erin says.


Key Event
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Erin says she doesn't recall denying foraging mushrooms
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Erin's asked about previous evidence from another senior doctor at Monash Health, Rhonda Stuart, who saw Ms Patterson days after the lunch.

The doctor previously told the court she asked Erin where she had bought the mushrooms in the meal from but Erin was unable to tell her specifically.

Professor Stuart previously told the court she had asked Erin "if she'd been mushrooming and if she'd used any other mushrooms" but Erin told her no, she'd only used the two types of mushrooms described, from Woolworths and the Asian grocer.

"Do you accept that Professor Stuart asked you if you'd been mushrooming?" Dr Rogers asks.

"I accept that that's what she said," Ms Patterson says.

"Did you, in effect, say no to Professor Stuart?"

"To which question?"

"If you'd been mushrooming."

"I don't remember that conversation."

Dr Rogers suggests that in that conversation, Erin denied going mushrooming to Professor Stuart.

"I don't remember the conversation," Erin repeats.
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Reply #174 - Jun 5th, 2025 at 3:12pm
 
I think she’s admitted it has occurred and how but I don’t believe the police have proven intent.

Guilty of man slaughter definitely but so far I see no evidence of murder.

It’s a really interesting and  totally tragic event.
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Reply #175 - Jun 5th, 2025 at 5:23pm
 
Daves2017 wrote on Jun 5th, 2025 at 3:12pm:
I think she’s admitted it has occurred and how but I don’t believe the police have proven intent.

Guilty of man slaughter definitely but so far I see no evidence of murder.

It’s a really interesting and  totally tragic event.


I agree. If there was ever intent of murder of 4 persons, one would think of being more discreet so as not as obvious. She’s just too easy for the pickings and trial by media imo.
I would hate to be part of jury duty… I think it’s manslaughter… not murder.

I read how she was saying her son and grandfather were like 2 minds together. They got on so well.
I doubt she would want to kill that.
Very sad, tragic.
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Reply #176 - Jun 5th, 2025 at 7:50pm
 
I just think she stuffed up.
Sadly for her, in a very bad way.

Just because people don't have media savvy personalities or even perceive the Media as an all powerful god with its Holy Celebrities, that rule their entire persona and existence of correctness.
The Media will paint them as akin to heathens, unbelievers and GUILTY of being untrue.
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Reply #177 - Jun 6th, 2025 at 1:05pm
 
Erin Patterson seems to be the type of person who will lie if they think
it can be advantageous for them.
She better not lie in court – that would be perjury.

She has told so many lies outside of court -
to the doctors at the hospital,
to the police, to her guests at the meal,
the list goes on and on.
Is she a compulsive liar?


Latest here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-06/live-blog-erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-...
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Reply #178 - Jun 6th, 2025 at 3:41pm
 
In my uneducated opinion I don’t believe that she can be found guilty of murder as what she has admitted to is man slaughter.

If she is acquitted will she walk free or face a future trial for man slaughter?

The whole thing is a terrible mess.
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Reply #179 - Jun 6th, 2025 at 5:34pm
 
Just like her cooking.
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