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Reply #150 - May 19^th, 2025 at 5:41pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-19/erin-patterson-mushroom-trial-evidence-co...

Erin Patterson's phone recorded in areas near where
death cap mushrooms were reported, court told

By court reporter Kristian Silva
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In short:
A telecommunications expert says Erin Patterson's phone connected to towers near Outtrim and Loch after the poisonous mushrooms were reported growing in the towns.

Ms Patterson denies she deliberately put death cap mushrooms in the beef Wellingtons eaten by her lunch guests in July 2023.

What's next?
The trial is due to resume on Tuesday.

Erin Patterson's phone connected to cell towers near where death cap mushrooms were growing in the months before the fatal lunch at her home, the Supreme Court has been told.

According to phone records, Ms Patterson's mobile was detected during a potential visit to Outtrim on May 22, 2023, a day after a mushroom expert posted that death caps were growing in Neilson Street.

The trial of Erin Patterson, who stands accused of using a poisoned meal to murder three relatives, continues.

Catch up on the latest developments from Monday's hearing with our blog.

Ms Patterson's phone also connected to towers near the town of Loch earlier on May 22, the court heard. A death cap mushroom sighting was also reported in that area in April 2023.

Ms Patterson, who lived in the nearby town of Leongatha, is accused of using death cap mushrooms to poison four relatives at a family lunch on July 29, 2023.

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Reply #151 - May 19^th, 2025 at 6:48pm

This is how it becomes trail by media!

I will quote exactly what the expert witness said today in court

Daves2017 wrote on May 19^th, 2025 at 5:02pm:

“ 5.He told the court the phone may have made multiple trips to the areas, but was likely to be stationary in Outtrim for 25 minutes on May 22, a day after a death cap was observed in the area.”

“ Abc

“ MAY” have been in the location.

Therefore logically you can assume it MAY not have been.

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Reply #152 - May 19^th, 2025 at 9:31pm

Daves2017 wrote on May 19^th, 2025 at 6:48pm:

This is how it becomes trail by media!

I will quote exactly what the expert witness said today in court

Daves2017 wrote on May 19^th, 2025 at 5:02pm:

“ 5.He told the court the phone may have made multiple trips to the areas, but was likely to be stationary in Outtrim for 25 minutes on May 22, a day after a death cap was observed in the area.”

“ Abc

“ MAY” have been in the location.

Therefore logically you can assume it MAY not have been.

I think she's as guilty as sin.

I hope they find as such.

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Reply #153 - May 29^th, 2025 at 1:01pm

Just thinking about my own mushroom foraging:

I went foraging for mushrooms myself, a few years ago and the problem was that even using
3 different apps on my mobile phone I couldn't identify the type of mushroom 100%.
All those apps had large warnings saying the results could be wrong
and that eating them could make you sick or even cause death -
so – all the mushrooms I found went into the rubbish bin
except for a few found on a grassy field – not under trees
that I was confident were ordinary safe mushrooms.
Even then it was difficult as some of them were known as yellow stainers
and had to be rejected -
if you ran your fingernail over the cap you'd see a yellow stain
yet they looked almost identical to the edible field mushrooms.
The ones I did eat were delicious and didn't hurt me.
I don't think I'd do it again – it's too risky and the ones
that are most prized seem to grow on wood which is also
where the most poisonous ones are too.

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Reply #154 - May 29^th, 2025 at 10:46pm

Many years ago, mum told me about how my dad had picked fresh field mushrooms, cooked them and ate them only to have to go to hospital ill as they were poisonous.
I think he was lucky by the looks of this case with 3 dying from it.
It must be hard to tell them apart… I see lovely mushrooms growing but I wouldn’t have a clue and can’t tell the difference.…so I don’t pick them.

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90500 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #155 - May 30^th, 2025 at 12:06am As kids - we used to pick mushrooms - and I hated them even then. As I grew to be able to decide my own likes in food - I dumped mushrooms and a few other things. Point is - we never picked 'bad' mushrooms .. there were rules on what to pick and what to leave... only the best ones were chosen.
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Reply #156 - May 30^th, 2025 at 11:13am

Sophia wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 10:46pm:

Many years ago, mum told me about how my dad had picked fresh field mushrooms, cooked them and ate them only to have to go to hospital ill as they were poisonous.
I think he was lucky by the looks of this case with 3 dying from it.
It must be hard to tell them apart… I see lovely mushrooms growing but I wouldn’t have a clue and can’t tell the difference.…so I don’t pick them.

Anything that is not round, flat, white & with brown gills underneath is poisonous.

Like many frog and insect species - the gawdier/brighter the colours the more deadly poison they are.

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Reply #157 - May 31^st, 2025 at 10:31pm

One thing I miss from my 1950s childhood is
wandering around paddocks after a spring rain
and gathering mushrooms in a bucket. There's
nothing quite like a black field mushroom sautéed
in salty butter, and maybe on toast or with a steak.

Nowadays farmers are using so many chemicals
on their pastures that I never see them growing
in the wild any more, and the pretend mushrooms
that Coles and Woolies sell are absolute crap.

Laughably, both stores call these things "field" mushrooms...

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #158 - May 31^st, 2025 at 10:44pm

Sophia wrote on May 29^th, 2025 at 10:46pm:

Many years ago, mum told me about how my dad had picked fresh field mushrooms, cooked them and ate them only to have to go to hospital ill as they were poisonous.
I think he was lucky by the looks of this case with 3 dying from it.
It must be hard to tell them apart… I see lovely mushrooms growing but I wouldn’t have a clue and can’t tell the difference.…so I don’t pick them.

As a guess what he picked in the field was a yellow stainer mushroom.
They are very common amongst wild edible field mushrooms.
If you run your thumbnail across the cap
you'll see a yellow stain as per here and if you eat them
you'll get very sick but you won't die:

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 121014 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #159 - May 31^st, 2025 at 10:48pm Also - amongst wild mushrooms the ones with white gills underneath are normally poisonous - however - this type of shop bought mushroom is very tasty - amongst the best you can buy - and has white gills underneath:
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Reply #160 - Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 6:13pm

Wow - I assume she can be cross examined by the prosecution now!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-02/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-live...

Accused triple murderer Erin Patterson has taken the stand to give evidence in court.

After the prosecution wrapped up their case, defence barrister Colin Mandy SC informed the jury that Erin Patterson would take the stand.

Here are some of the things we heard from the beginning of her evidence:

1.Erin and Simon Patterson met at work at Monash City Council in 2004. They started dating in 2005, got engaged in 2007, and married that year. Her parents were on holiday in Russia at the time so Ian Wilkinson’s son walked her down the aisle.
2.Simon converted her to Christianity. She described her first church service, led by Ian Wilkinson, as “a spiritual experience”.
3.Erin says the 2009 birth of her son was long and traumatic, requiring an emergency caesarean.
4.When her son was ready to be sent home, the hospital wanted Erin to stay but she discharged herself against medical advice.
5.They separated in late 2009, the first of a number of separations. Erin said she and Simon had trouble communicating.
6.Erin told the court she had been fighting “a never-ending battle of low self-esteem”, particularly as she gained weight.
7.In 2023, Erin’s children were living with her full time. Their daughter often spent Saturdays with Simon Patterson, but Erin says their son only saw his father at church or youth group.
8.By 2023, Erin felt a distance had grown between her and the Patterson family, particularly Don and Gail. She didn’t think Simon wanted her to be involved with his family anymore.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3435 Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #161 - Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 6:32pm The police have work hard to discredit her but that’s not proof. I look forward too the police bringing her kindergarten school mate forward too provided damnin testimony about she thinks she did it because she’s got a vibe after 50 years she’s guilty! Have they proven anything? Anything at all?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 121014 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #162 - Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 7:04pm The prosecution will make mincemeat of her tomorrow.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 121014 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #163 - Jun 2^nd, 2025 at 7:44pm Decoding the Behavior of Erin Patterson with The Behavior Panel.
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #164 - Jun 3^rd, 2025 at 10:57am

Live trial updates today here:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-03/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-tues...

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Separation was 'difficult', Erin testifies

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Erin says in the "immediate aftermath" of the separation, "it was difficult, as it had been at other separations".

"But that only lasted a handful of weeks. We went back to just being really good friends," she says.

She says she "constantly" reflected on the reasons for the separation.

"I didn't want to be separated, but I felt there was no choice," Erin says.

"Our primary problem was, if we had a disagreement or any kind of conflict, we didn't seem to be able to talk about it in a way where either or us felt heard or understood. We just felt hurt, and we didn't really know how to do that well."

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