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Reply #120 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 3:30pm:

There is no doubt Erin poisoned her guests and killed them....There is no doubt Erin went to the areas where death cap mushrooms were reported growing, how else would she get death cap mushrooms....Erin was the only one who did not eat the death cap mushrooms and supposedly ate the same meal as her guests....Erin lied to police about owning a food dehydrator and dumped it soon after the meal....The food dehydrator had Erin's fingerprints on it and tested positive to death cap mushrooms....I think she might be guilty!!!

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Dr Rogers says traces of amanita phalloides mushroom toxins were found on Ms Patterson's dehydrator located at the tip and from leftovers recovered by authorities

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-30/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-leon...

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

Fair enough....However she did poison her guests which is not in doubt....I believe the jury will find her guilty!!!

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120617 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #121 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:38pm philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:36pm: Fair enough....However she did poison her guests which is not in doubt....I believe the jury will find her guilty!!! And then she will appeal the case - it will go on for years.
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #122 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #123 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:45pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

Huh

Yes it looks like she picked the death caps when they were in season -
dried them with her Sunbeam food dehydrator and kept them in a container
to use in her murder plot.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #124 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:53pm

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:45pm:

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

Huh

Yes it looks like she picked the death caps when they were in season -
dried them with her Sunbeam food dehydrator and kept them in a container
to use in her murder plot.

I agree Bobby....Erin has lied about everything!!!

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Security footage has been played to Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial, showing her dumping a food dehydrator at the tip in the days after she hosted a deadly lunch.

Prosecutors allege traces of death cap mushrooms were found on the black Sunbeam dehydrator, the same toxin ingested by four guests who ate beef Wellingtons at Ms Patterson's home on July 29, 2023.

CCTV from the Koonwarra Transfer Station And Landfill was played to the Supreme Court on Wednesday, showing Ms Patterson's red car pull up outside a large green shed on August 2, 2023.

Ms Patterson is seen retrieving the dehydrator from her boot and taking it inside the shed. Tip manager Darren Canty said the item was later retrieved from an e-waste bin and given to police.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-14/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-food...

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #125 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:57pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 3:30pm:

There is no doubt Erin poisoned her guests and killed them....There is no doubt Erin went to the areas where death cap mushrooms were reported growing, how else would she get death cap mushrooms....Erin was the only one who did not eat the death cap mushrooms and supposedly ate the same meal as her guests....Erin lied to police about owning a food dehydrator and dumped it soon after the meal....The food dehydrator had Erin's fingerprints on it and tested positive to death cap mushrooms....I think she might be guilty!!!

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Dr Rogers says traces of amanita phalloides mushroom toxins were found on Ms Patterson's dehydrator located at the tip and from leftovers recovered by authorities

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-30/erin-patterson-mushroom-murder-trial-leon...

She is guilty.
Death cap mushrooms do not appear in a meal by accident.
They are not available commercially.
She has been linked to a similar death in the past.

It must have been a terrible way to die.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120617 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #126 - May 14^th, 2025 at 5:59pm philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:53pm: I agree Bobby....Erin has lied about everything!!! Of course she has.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120617 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #127 - May 15^th, 2025 at 12:00am Identifying the Deathcap. Amanita phalloides.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120617 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #128 - May 15^th, 2025 at 8:49am Imagine if she did take the stand? She's the Hollywood type who would break down in tears all the time - especially when asked a hard question. It would have been painful to watch her Academy Award acting.
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #129 - May 15^th, 2025 at 11:23am

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

Huh

If it was an innocent mistake, she would have also eaten those deathcap mushrooms and died like the rest of her guests - or been on death's doorstep like the pastor.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120617 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today Reply #130 - May 15^th, 2025 at 11:29am Today's live action: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-15/blog-erin-patterson-mushroom-trial-thursd...
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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #131 - May 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm

Aquarius wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

Huh

If it was an innocent mistake, she would have also eaten those deathcap mushrooms and died like the rest of her guests - or been on death's doorstep like the pastor.

Agreed....Her mistake was leaving evidence and lying to police....Guilty!!!

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #132 - May 15^th, 2025 at 1:57pm

philperth2010 wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 1:08pm:

Aquarius wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 11:23am:

philperth2010 wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:40pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:25pm:

Aussie wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 5:22pm:

As do I....but it is not enough to just 'think she MIGHT be guilty.'

The jury are just ordinary people.
They will go with their gut instincts that she's as guilty as sin.

I agree Bobby....The only reason she lied was to cover up her crime....If it was an innocent mistake she would not have known the mushrooms were the cause of the illness and dispose of the food dehydrator which implicated her in the murder???

Huh

If it was an innocent mistake, she would have also eaten those deathcap mushrooms and died like the rest of her guests - or been on death's doorstep like the pastor.

Agreed....Her mistake was leaving evidence and lying to police....Guilty!!!

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Reply #133 - May 15^th, 2025 at 6:42pm

This is remarkably unremarkable and it is one of the obvious flaws in the Jury system. If anyone really believes Jurors do NOT discuss the day by day events of Trials with at least one Family Member, then you are denying human nature and common sense. Sequestration is the answer especially when a person's liberty is at stake. Yes, it costs large but, if we are fair dinkum about it, that is only way to prevent pillow talk.

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Re: Mushroom lady trial starts today
Reply #134 - May 15^th, 2025 at 6:44pm

Aussie wrote on May 15^th, 2025 at 6:42pm:

This is remarkably unremarkable and it is one of the obvious flaws in the Jury system. If anyone really believes Jurors do NOT discuss the day by day events of Trials with at least one Family Member, then you are denying human nature and common sense. Sequestration is the answer especially when a person's liberty is at stake. Yes, it costs large but, if we are fair dinkum about it, that is only way to prevent pillow talk.

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Jury sequestration means a jury is isolated from the public and media during a trial to prevent outside influences from impacting their decision-making. This isolation typically involves jurors being housed together in a hotel or other location with limited contact with family, friends, or the public, and they are often prohibited from accessing news reports or other information about the case.

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