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No “No AGW!” talk
Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm
 
From deniers, according to the Guardian.

Is IS getting a bit hard to, you know, deny AGW when it is so bloody hot for so long and ice cover is at a minimum. Whoever said that deniers don’t talk against AGW hasn’t looked here  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Why Australia’s most prominent climate change deniers have stopped talking about the climate


“Don’t mention the war! I did but I think I got away with it”  Grin Grin

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Global heating sceptics now argue it is more palatable with the electorate to pivot from climate denialism to anti-renewable energy scepticism


A cunning move, folks!

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The only regular meeting of Australia’s Saltbush Club takes place most Thursday evenings at a golf club in Five Dock, in Sydney’s inner west. The group’s founding members – a collection of the country’s most prominent and avid global heating deniers – include Gina Rinehart, the former Queensland premier Campbell Newman, former Business Council of Australia head Hugh Morgan, and Coalition MP Colin Boyce.

At Five Dock, the crowd is mostly old and mostly white. They sometimes host contrarian speakers. But about six years ago, this gathering of climate sceptics decided to stop talking publicly about the climate.

“We resolved to temporarily pivot from the climate debate and launch the Energy Realists of Australia to talk to people about matters that really concern them, like the price and security of power, instead of science,” said Rafe Champion, another Saltbush founder and a stalwart of the Five Dock meetup.

The idea, Champion wrote on his blog last month, was to target people using “evidence that they can understand, unlike the finer points of climate science”.

As Australia heads to a federal election, the results of that pivot have been writ large in the campaign. Both major parties notionally support the net zero emissions target. But the coal and climate wars have been replaced in some places by vehement anti-renewables campaigns.


Nuclear is dead, stop wind/solar and coal/gas can keep going heating the, psssst don’t mention the climate!

Read more here: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/26/why-australias-most-promi...
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Reply #1 - Apr 28th, 2025 at 9:19pm
 
I read that later.

What is your feelings on dog free beaches?

Myself and cat are all in favour of them.
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Reply #2 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 2:52am
 
I have never seen a cat on a beach.

I respect dog–free beaches while birds are nesting, why not?
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Reply #3 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 9:55am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
From deniers, according to the Guardian.

Is IS getting a bit hard to, you know, deny AGW when it is so bloody hot for so long and ice cover is at a minimum. Whoever said that deniers don’t talk against AGW hasn’t looked here  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

heh.

Quote:
Why Australia’s most prominent climate change deniers have stopped talking about the climate


“Don’t mention the war! I did but I think I got away with it”  Grin Grin

Quote:
Global heating sceptics now argue it is more palatable with the electorate to pivot from climate denialism to anti-renewable energy scepticism


A cunning move, folks!

Quote:
The only regular meeting of Australia’s Saltbush Club takes place most Thursday evenings at a golf club in Five Dock, in Sydney’s inner west. The group’s founding members – a collection of the country’s most prominent and avid global heating deniers – include Gina Rinehart, the former Queensland premier Campbell Newman, former Business Council of Australia head Hugh Morgan, and Coalition MP Colin Boyce.

At Five Dock, the crowd is mostly old and mostly white. They sometimes host contrarian speakers. But about six years ago, this gathering of climate sceptics decided to stop talking publicly about the climate.

“We resolved to temporarily pivot from the climate debate and launch the Energy Realists of Australia to talk to people about matters that really concern them, like the price and security of power, instead of science,” said Rafe Champion, another Saltbush founder and a stalwart of the Five Dock meetup.

The idea, Champion wrote on his blog last month, was to target people using “evidence that they can understand, unlike the finer points of climate science”.

As Australia heads to a federal election, the results of that pivot have been writ large in the campaign. Both major parties notionally support the net zero emissions target. But the coal and climate wars have been replaced in some places by vehement anti-renewables campaigns.


Nuclear is dead, stop wind/solar and coal/gas can keep going heating the, psssst don’t mention the climate!

Read more here: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/26/why-australias-most-promi...


power goes out in the entire Iberian peninsula

Spain, Portugal, southern France - no electricity at all, for hours.

https://x.com/EvaVlaar/status/1916848739076997367
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Reply #4 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:02am
 
Yeah—source of power or network breakdown?

Relevance to the OP I posted?
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Reply #5 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 10:42am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 9:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
From deniers, according to the Guardian.

Is IS getting a bit hard to, you know, deny AGW when it is so bloody hot for so long and ice cover is at a minimum. Whoever said that deniers don’t talk against AGW hasn’t looked here  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

heh.

Quote:
Why Australia’s most prominent climate change deniers have stopped talking about the climate


“Don’t mention the war! I did but I think I got away with it”  Grin Grin

Quote:
Global heating sceptics now argue it is more palatable with the electorate to pivot from climate denialism to anti-renewable energy scepticism


A cunning move, folks!

Quote:
The only regular meeting of Australia’s Saltbush Club takes place most Thursday evenings at a golf club in Five Dock, in Sydney’s inner west. The group’s founding members – a collection of the country’s most prominent and avid global heating deniers – include Gina Rinehart, the former Queensland premier Campbell Newman, former Business Council of Australia head Hugh Morgan, and Coalition MP Colin Boyce.

At Five Dock, the crowd is mostly old and mostly white. They sometimes host contrarian speakers. But about six years ago, this gathering of climate sceptics decided to stop talking publicly about the climate.

“We resolved to temporarily pivot from the climate debate and launch the Energy Realists of Australia to talk to people about matters that really concern them, like the price and security of power, instead of science,” said Rafe Champion, another Saltbush founder and a stalwart of the Five Dock meetup.

The idea, Champion wrote on his blog last month, was to target people using “evidence that they can understand, unlike the finer points of climate science”.

As Australia heads to a federal election, the results of that pivot have been writ large in the campaign. Both major parties notionally support the net zero emissions target. But the coal and climate wars have been replaced in some places by vehement anti-renewables campaigns.


Nuclear is dead, stop wind/solar and coal/gas can keep going heating the, psssst don’t mention the climate!

Read more here: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/26/why-australias-most-promi...


power goes out in the entire Iberian peninsula

Spain, Portugal, southern France - no electricity at all, for hours.

https://x.com/EvaVlaar/status/1916848739076997367


Here you go Franko:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/28/world/europe/spain-portugal-power-outage-what...
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Reply #6 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 11:06am
 
Forget AGW, it is APF, Anthropogenic Power Failure, across the entire Iberian peninsula.



Where is Greta??

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Reply #7 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 11:45am
 
It was something to do with the European grid, powered in part by French nuclear power.

I really have no idea what point you think you are making.
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Reply #8 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 11:49am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 29th, 2025 at 11:45am:
It was something to do with the European grid, powered in part by French nuclear power.

I really have no idea what point you think you are making.



Energy security and affordability. There is no other point.

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Reply #9 - Apr 29th, 2025 at 12:28pm
 
Like a nuke powered grid?
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