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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Environment of nuclear weapons Apr 26^th, 2025 at 11:55pm The history of the British atomic bomb program - their largest was a 3 Megaton H bomb - a monster. They used Australia for their testing. 53 minute doco:
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Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2025 at 6:58am

Still to this day we are threatened by nuclear weapons:

https://kyivindependent.com/shoigu-threatens-europe-with-nuclear-weapons-if-russ...

Shoigu threatens Europe with nuclear weapons if Russia is faced with 'unfriendly actions'

April 24, 2025

Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if faced with 'unfriendly actions,' Russian Security Council Secretary Sergei Shoigu claimed in an interview with TASS state news agency on April 24.

Shoigu said Moscow was "closely monitoring" the "military preparations" of European countries, as they seek to ramp up defense spending and production in the face of the U.S. reducing its military presence on the continent.

"In case foreign states commit unfriendly actions that threaten the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Russian Federation, our country considers it legitimate to take symmetrical and asymmetrical measures necessary to suppress such actions and prevent their recurrence," he said.

"Nuclear deterrence is carried out against states and military coalitions that regard Russia as a potential adversary, possess weapons of mass destruction, or have significant combat capabilities of general-purpose forces," he added.

Shoigu also said that any European future peacekeeping forces deployed to Ukraine to monitor a ceasefire would also be seen by the Kremlin as a provocation.

"Sensible politicians in Europe understand that the implementation of such a scenario could lead to a direct clash between NATO and Russia and subsequently to World War III," he said.

In November 2024, Russia updated its official nuclear deterrence policy. According to the changes, the Kremlin reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to aggression against itself or its closest ally, Belarus, even if the attack involves non-nuclear weapons.

Russia has repeatedly made nuclear threats against Ukraine and the West since the beginning of the full-scale invasion in February 2022. The threats have failed to materialize, and Russia continues to wage its all-out war without using its nuclear arsenal.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2025 at 4:49pm Nuclear weapons and the fallout and contamination they cause is a major threat to our environment. Monk, stick to pussy cats and little dogs.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #3 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 5:07pm OK for all you science buffs. An excellent series on the science behind nuclear weapons:
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #4 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 5:09pm
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #5 - May 1^st, 2025 at 7:45am Looks like this one is the last in that series:
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #6 - May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm

https://www.nuclear-risks.org/en/hibakusha-worldwide/maralinga.html

Maralinga, Australia
Nuclear weapons test site

Between 1952 and 1957, the United Kingdom conducted seven major and hundreds of minor nuclear tests at the Maralinga Test Site in Southern Australia. Nuclear fallout from the explosions contaminated large parts of the region and exposed many people to high levels of radioactivity. To this day, the casualties of these tests are denied recognition, medical care and compensation.

The Maralinga Test Site was closed in 1967.
Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination,
however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day.

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19912 Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #7 - May 13^th, 2025 at 12:38pm Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm: Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination, however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day. Is that under the LNT model or real life observations?
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #8 - May 13^th, 2025 at 1:22pm

lee wrote on May 13^th, 2025 at 12:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm:

Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination,
however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day.

Is that under the LNT model or real life observations?

I don't know:

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The Linear No-Threshold (LNT) model is a radiation protection model that assumes a direct and proportional relationship between radiation exposure and cancer risk, with no safe threshold. It's used to estimate the risk of radiation-induced cancer, genetic mutations, and other health effects. The model implies that any amount of radiation, no matter how small, carries a risk, and the risk increases linearly with the dose.

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 19912 Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #9 - May 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm Exactly right. And yet people are exposed to radiation every day, from multiple sources, the Sun, Granite and many others. But the body has this marvellous capability of repairing itself. Of course that does not been you can continue getting sunburnt every day.
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Reply #10 - May 14^th, 2025 at 3:05pm

lee wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Exactly right. And yet people are exposed to radiation every day, from multiple sources, the Sun, Granite and many others. But the body has this marvellous capability of repairing itself. Of course that does not been you can continue getting sunburnt every day.

Yes - I heard the cells can sometimes repair a small amount of destruction inside a chromosome.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:44pm
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #12 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 9:46pm So lets discuss morality? What do you all think about scientists who design and build atomic bombs that could destroy the entire world? Should they be on trial for crimes against humanity?
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 116922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:11pm Best to play at 0.75 speed as he talks too fast: The horrors of the H Bomb. Who Invented the Hydrogen Bomb?
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #14 - Oct 30^th, 2025 at 3:00pm

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-asks-pentagon-immediately-start-testin...

Trump tells Pentagon to immediately resume testing US nuclear weapons

By Trevor Hunnicutt, Ismail Shakil and Kanishka Singh

October 30, 20253:48 PM GMT+11Updated 5 mins ago

Summary

Decision follows China's nuclear stockpile expansion

Russia's recent nuclear tests include Poseidon super torpedo

China's arsenal expected to exceed 1,000 by 2030, CSIS says

BUSAN, South Korea, Oct 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday ordered the U.S. military to immediately resume testing nuclear weapons, for the first time in 33 years, minutes before beginning a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping.

Trump made the surprise announcement on Truth Social while he was aboard his Marine One helicopter flying to meet Xi for a trade negotiating session in Busan, South Korea. He said he was instructing the Pentagon to test the U.S. nuclear arsenal on an "equal basis" with other nuclear powers.

"Because of other countries testing programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our Nuclear Weapons on an equal basis. That process will begin immediately," Trump posted.
"Russia is second, and China is a distant third, but will be even within 5 years."
He did not elaborate and did not reply to a reporter's shouted question about his post after his initial remarks to Xi. It was not immediately clear whether Trump was referring to nuclear-explosive testing, which would be carried out by the National Nuclear Safety Administration, or flight testing of nuclear-capable missiles.

NEGATIVE REACTIONS TO TRUMP'S POST The reaction to Trump's announcement on testing was swift. Representative Dina Titus, a Democrat from Nevada, said on X: "I'll be introducing legislation to put a stop to this."
Daryl Kimball, director of the Arms Control Association, said it would take the United States at least 36 months to resume contained nuclear tests underground at the former test site in Nevada.
"Trump is misinformed and out of touch. The U.S. has no technical, military, or political reason to resume nuclear explosive testing for the first time since 1992," Kimball said on X.
It was not immediately clear whether Trump was referring to nuclear-explosive testing, which would be carried out by the National Nuclear Safety Administration, or flight testing of nuclear-capable missiles.
Kimball said Trump's announcement could "trigger a chain reaction of nuclear testing by U.S. adversaries, and blow apart the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty."

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