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Sir Eoin O Fada
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Re: Road markings
Reply #30 - May 1st, 2025 at 4:07pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 2:13pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 4:13pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 9:05pm:
We spend an absolute fortune on rural roads that get fairly light traffic. A bit of paint is the least of our concern.

It should worry you as a citizen that on many rural roads the paint is misleading and the interrupted line goes around blind corners and over crests.
Not that such disregard for safety is confined to rural roads.
The New England Highway, immediately south of Stonehenge, has a straight, followed by a left hand curve over a crest in a blind corner safely protected by interrupted new double lines., which would seem to indicate that those doing the painting are either stupid or don’t give a toss..
This is not an isolated example.


It's a long sweeping curve over a minimal rise.

Nothing blind about the curve at all - there is plenty of distance vision for any safe overtaking.

Sure it’s a sweeping curve, I wouldn’t call it long but it is blind and the minimal rise is enough to conceal an oncoming vehicle.
Where did you get your licence and how long ago were you tested?

One would think that a curve that one cannot see around would be considered blind especially when it has a blind crest as well.

Just Google , ‘’Google Earth’’ it gives the elevations relevant to the curve and crest, you might be surprised, and enlightened.


That's how I know old timer. It's not what I'd call a blind corner by any definition.

There would be nearly 5 hundred meters of vision in both directions.

Other wise there would be continuous double white lines around the sweep.

It's a good wide road with wide shoulders.

I've had a car, tractor, motorbike, bus, heavy rigid  license since 1973.

I was a class 1 Locomotive Driver Trainer for 23 years prior to my retirement in 2019.

Well as I can’t see around it when correctly positioned in the carriageway and I cant see over the crest then I consider them blind.

‘’ There would be nearly 5 hundred meters of vision in both directions.

Other wise there would be continuous double white lines around the sweep.’’

Somehow I think that we are talking about different roads.
I got my licence in 1954 and have driven tractors, graders, steam rollers, steam trucks, steam traction engines, heavy trucks, light tanks, 113 Personnel Carriers, was a Call Boy at Enfield Loco Depot, engine cleaner and have fired and driven numerous steam locomotives [although I wasn’t supposed to].
All of which has nought to do with seeing around blind corners or through solid earth.
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Re: Road markings
Reply #31 - May 1st, 2025 at 4:36pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 1st, 2025 at 2:13pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 5:40pm:
Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 4:13pm:
Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Apr 24th, 2025 at 1:26pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2025 at 9:05pm:
We spend an absolute fortune on rural roads that get fairly light traffic. A bit of paint is the least of our concern.

It should worry you as a citizen that on many rural roads the paint is misleading and the interrupted line goes around blind corners and over crests.
Not that such disregard for safety is confined to rural roads.
The New England Highway, immediately south of Stonehenge, has a straight, followed by a left hand curve over a crest in a blind corner safely protected by interrupted new double lines., which would seem to indicate that those doing the painting are either stupid or don’t give a toss..
This is not an isolated example.


It's a long sweeping curve over a minimal rise.

Nothing blind about the curve at all - there is plenty of distance vision for any safe overtaking.

Sure it’s a sweeping curve, I wouldn’t call it long but it is blind and the minimal rise is enough to conceal an oncoming vehicle.
Where did you get your licence and how long ago were you tested?

One would think that a curve that one cannot see around would be considered blind especially when it has a blind crest as well.

Just Google , ‘’Google Earth’’ it gives the elevations relevant to the curve and crest, you might be surprised, and enlightened.


That's how I know old timer. It's not what I'd call a blind corner by any definition.

There would be nearly 5 hundred meters of vision in both directions.

Other wise there would be continuous double white lines around the sweep.

It's a good wide road with wide shoulders.

I've had a car, tractor, motorbike, bus, heavy rigid  license since 1973.

I was a class 1 Locomotive Driver Trainer for 23 years prior to my retirement in 2019.

Are we talking about the same road
As far as I’m concerned if one cannot see around a curve when correctly positioned in the carriageway then that is a blind curve and if one can’t see over a crest that is high enough to conceal a vehicle then that is a blind crest and to not have them protected by double lines borders on criminal negligence.

I have had a driver’s licence since 1954 and I have driven tractors, graders, steam rollers, motor rollers, steam trucks, steam traction engines, heavy motor vehicles, light tanks, armoured personnel carriers and was a Call Boy [not to be confused with Callgirl] at Enfield Locomotive Depot, engine cleaner and have fired and driven numerous types of steam locomotives [although I wasn’t supposed to do so].

All of which has absolutely nothing to do with it.

The road from Glen Innes to Emmaville has numerous blind corners and at least two blind crests  in 35 kilometres and the Gwydir Highway where it passes behind the Glen Innes hospital is a nice straight leading to a blind crest and the interrupted line goes over the crest, appropriately the Emergency Entrance at the hospital is on this section of the highway.

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Re: Road markings
Reply #32 - Jun 3rd, 2025 at 9:36pm
 
Went through this contentious corner this afternoon and for the life of me I couldn’t figure how anyone would consider it safe, then when I got my computer going I looked it up on Google Earth and low and behold it does have wide shoullders etc as described above, but if one uses the elevation feature it tells one that there is a crest in the middle of the curve,
Elevation 1, 088 metres rising to 1,093 m then dropping to 1,090 , on the South side so there is at least a 3 metre hump, big enough to conceal the average car.

. Roads are different to rrail tracks.
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Reply #33 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 8:21am
 
Oh for Paul's sake. Don't rely on lines on the road with absolutism.
Use the Force.
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Reply #34 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 2:18pm
 
I'd still like to why the 'road marking crew' paint these obsolete dotted lines on Orrong Road nearly 20 years after the T junction was modified to only allow traffic to exit Barry St. onto Orrong Rd.?

The dotted lines (which used to continue around into Barry St.) are shown with the small arrows in the attached image and the long curved arrow shows how traffic exits Barry St. onto Orrong Rd.

The T junction was modified nearly 20 years ago, as I've said, to stop traffic using Barry St. then Gladstone Rd. to get to Francisco St. and avoid the traffic lights at Orrong Rd. and Francisco St. (which have a lot of congestion especially during peak hours).

So... anyway... WHY are they still painting those obsolete white dotted lines after nearly 20 years?  Cheesy
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Re: Road markings
Reply #35 - Jun 4th, 2025 at 10:23pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 4th, 2025 at 8:21am:
Oh for Paul's sake. Don't rely on lines on the road with absolutism.
Use the Force.

But some people do so, they believe that the lines are there as a guide and for safety.
They are guided by them; just like some [most?] people believe use by dates.
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Re: Road markings
Reply #36 - Jun 5th, 2025 at 8:41am
 
Australian road line marker painters are the most popular most watched you tubes of that kind, in the world. I personally don't know why? But maybe they're starting to overachieve in their new celebrity aura and just put in more lines, etc than needed.
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