lee wrote on Nov 10^th, 2025 at 6:24pm:


so your metric for determining if they are a similar organization or not is their reporting off trump? And you call me stupid?

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2025 at 6:30pm:


So both lied about the same thing.

John Smith wrote on Nov 10^th, 2025 at 6:30pm:


The cap fits very well.

Smith is gay.

Panorama, for those who haven’t been following the story, aired a documentary about the January 6 riots at the US Capitol called Trump: A Second Chance?. In it, they spliced together quotes from two sections of president Trump’s speech to produce a quote that had him say: ‘We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and I’ll be there with you, and we fight. We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not gonna have a country anymore.’ The problem is that the two sections of that quotation came from parts of the speech that were nearly an hour apart – and omitted the section where Trump enjoined the crowd to protest ‘peacefully and patriotically’.







And all the deranged TDS kids - gweggy, sprinty, sad teapot, pantaloon sniffer, comode politician etc - who were baying at the time about "Trump incited a riot and a coup" are now looking the other way and/or are yeah but-no-butting. They were, once again, taken in by the "respecyable mainstream media".

They even claim that there is no bias or if there is, it's a right wing bias! At the BBC and ABC!!

lee wrote on Nov 10^th, 2025 at 7:41pm:


Indeed. They are both - the BBC and the BBC - are lying about the same things (Trump, trannies, immigration, Islam, race, Gaza) the same way.




You may remember that in February the BBC found itself in a spot of bother regarding a film about the conflict in Gaza which, it transpired, had been narrated by the son of a Hamas minister. Some people, not least Jewish people, wondered if such an account perhaps might accidentally stray into the realms of partisanship, and the BBC was forced to withdraw the documentary forthwith. It then commissioned an internal report into why this young lad had been chosen to front the film, rather than, say, Rylan Clark or Clare Balding. As a consequence of the investigation, the BBC’s head of news, Deborah Turness, sent a round robin email to all BBC staff. Only now, nearly nine months later, can I reveal the disturbing truth about what Ms Turness told her colleagues. I reprint her letter below because I believe it is in the public interest to do so:

Hi everybody,

I wanted to write to you following the publication of the Peter Johnston review into Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone. It has not been an easy time. Why? Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews. For completeness, Jews, Jews and Jews. And I want to take this opportunity to tell you that I am incredibly proud of the work we do every day calling Israel a rogue state that’s committing war crimes and ethnic cleansing and mass murdering Palestinians. We believe this is public interest journalism. I also want to recognise the outstanding work of Hamas, for the professionalism and patience they show every day.

Yours, Deborah Turness.


Remarkable, isn’t it? Reading that missive you worry that you are in the presence of a demented anti-Semite. And yet those are the words which Ms Turness put in her email. Except – OK, here I confess – not exactly the same. They are her words – it’s just that I’ve changed the order of them around a bit. Spliced a few sentences together, replaced one word with another word, etc. Yes, we are in Morecambe and Wise territory – ‘I am playing all the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order’, if you recall the conversation between Eric and André Previn, back when the BBC could be trusted.

If I were as arrogant as the BBC, I might try to justify my complete mangling of Ms Turness’s views as being ‘standard journalistic practice’, and that my very heavily rejigged and abbreviated form of her letter nonetheless accurately represented her sentiments. But it would be a downright lie, and it does not remotely represent her sentiments. So far as we know.

In an edition of Panorama broadcast in October last year, the production team spliced together two entirely separate comments by the defeated Donald Trump, speaking on 6 January to his enraged supporters, to make it look as if he was urging them to cause havoc at the White House, as indeed later occurred. In other words, Panorama wished the British viewer to believe that Trump had orchestrated that assault on democracy. They spliced together a segment of Trump’s speech where he said that he was going to walk with his supporters to the Capitol with another bit where he said his supporters should ‘fight like hell’. What Trump actually said to the MAGA thousands was that he was going to walk with them to the Capitol ‘to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard’. An almost diametrically opposite statement of intent to the one which the BBC put on air.

Now, I remember watching that Panorama. And I remember too being surprised and shocked by Trump’s words. I had previously argued with friends and colleagues who insisted that the President had been the architect of that chaos at the Capitol; give me the proof, I demanded. And for lo, here was the proof. Right before my eyes. Serves me right for being stupid enough to believe anything broadcast by that convocation of dim-witted liberal humanities grads, I suppose.


Rod Liddle