freediver wrote on Apr 9
th, 2025 at 11:49am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9
th, 2025 at 9:32am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9
th, 2025 at 8:53am:
I suspect that long term, Trump is going to be good for the world economy. ...
That's quite optimistic, considering the fact that everything he touches turns to
s
hit.
The only people sharing your view are those who are
paid to.
"Experts are all but unanimous that the impact on global growth of Wednesday’s extraordinary Rose Garden press conference will be negative – but just how bad remains highly uncertain."
Trump won't be in power for very long. His successor will be in a good position to negotiate whatever trade deals Trump does not do himself. China is the only likely hold-out.
Your quote does not appear to distinguish between short and long term impact. Obviously there is no denying a short term negative impact, as it has already happened.
We need to make a clear distinction between what is
actually happening and what MAGA fantasists
say is happening.
Frankly, the TDS-afflicted simpletons are best ignored for now, they’re a mess of contradictions, constantly rotating their justifications, none of which withstand basic scrutiny. Their tariff arguments, for example, are so inconsistent they collapse under their own weight. So let’s put that noise aside.
Yes, the short-term pain is real, and inescapable. But the deeper concern is this, the damage being done may outpace the time or tools available to fix it. A simple change in leadership and a few strategic renegotiations won’t cut it if the geopolitical ground has shifted entirely.
If any of the BRICS nations leapfrog the United States during this period, most likely China, with Russia as a distant second, it will fundamentally alter the global balance. And ironically, Trump appears to be doing everything he can to help them. His moves to dismantle sanctions on Russia, undermine NATO, and essentially hand over Ukraine on a platter all bolster Moscow’s strategic position, expanding their manpower, resources, and industrial footprint. You couldn’t script a better foreign policy for the Kremlin if you tried.
It’s unnerving how much of what was warned about a second Trump presidency is already materialising.
The MAGA crowd, predictably, remain unteachable. They’ll never acknowledge any of this, TDS has them locked into a hallucinatory state where Trump is always the victim and never the cause. But the reality is stark.
For Americans over 50, and especially those over 65, the consequences are brutal. Many will be forced back into the workforce, in an economic climate that has no interest in hiring older workers, especially in regions where Trump support runs deepest, rural, low-income areas with limited job prospects. Add in the evaporation of retirement savings, and you're looking at a generational crisis.
And that's ignoring the planned cuts to Medicaid and Social Security. Their children will inherit their debts.
These people aren’t retraining for tech jobs, they’re staring down the barrel of minimum wage service roles, if they’re lucky. And time is not on their side.
We know the profile, white, over 50, no university degree, often in regions hollowed out by decades of economic neglect. These same areas, small towns and low-density counties, form the spine of Trump’s base. Ironically, they’re also the most exposed to the policies he champions.
In the 2020 election, around 55% of voters aged 65 and older backed Trump. That block hasn’t gone anywhere, and they’re now the ones feeling the sharpest sting of his economic legacy. Their blind loyalty might carry them to the grave, and in many cases it will.
We've already seen the grotesque COVID-era posts, people literally dying in hospital beds still insisting the virus was a hoax, with the next post a family member begging strangers for funeral costs and help with medical bills they left behind on GoFundMe. That level of delusion doesn’t dissolve easily. Even as their world burns down around them, many of these people will die blaming everyone but the man holding the match.
And yet, even among them, Trump Regret is quietly creeping in. The question is whether it comes fast enough, or too late to matter.
Assuming it isn't already too late.