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mothra wrote on Mar 16th, 2025 at 11:41am:
On Netflix.

Honestly one of the finest shows of the decade ... and i know this is a huge call.

Four part series, each shot in one continuous take ... which adds magnitudes to both the gravitas and the performances ... which are exemplary.

Warning though, this will rip your heart out. I found this really hard to watch.for reasons that will be made clear to you should you brave it. But if you want excellence and a real and very important talking point, Adolescence is one to watch.

Just to add, Stephan Graham is one again just draw dropping but the kid they got to play Jaime ... just wow. First thing he's ever done and he was breathtaking.

This is a piece of art, not just creatively but for the sheer weight of emotion and thought it provokes.


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Reply #1 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:14pm:
mothra wrote on Mar 16th, 2025 at 11:41am:
On Netflix.

Honestly one of the finest shows of the decade ... and i know this is a huge call.

Four part series, each shot in one continuous take ... which adds magnitudes to both the gravitas and the performances ... which are exemplary.

Warning though, this will rip your heart out. I found this really hard to watch.for reasons that will be made clear to you should you brave it. But if you want excellence and a real and very important talking point, Adolescence is one to watch.

Just to add, Stephan Graham is one again just draw dropping but the kid they got to play Jaime ... just wow. First thing he's ever done and he was breathtaking.

This is a piece of art, not just creatively but for the sheer weight of emotion and thought it provokes.



I have not seen the new Netflix series Adolescence, and have no plans to. So I will not comment on the script or the acting or the direction. But I will note that, in a healthy society, the casting would be bizarre. The central character is a white English boy - which is an odd choice in a land where every single day girls and women are assaulted by "migrants" - to the point where this website now has recurring Diversity Rape of the Day and Diversity Stabbing of the Day features. Oh, and careful which hospital you go to after your rape, because the UK media are now normalising rape by the medical profession. From the BBC:

Doctor not struck off by panel over 'one-off' rape

That would be Dr Aloaye Foy-Yamah of the Blackpool Victoria Hospital.

If the hospital name rings a bell, it's because it's where a 75-year-old stroke patient called Valerie Kneale died not of a stroke but from internal bleeding after a sexual assault that took place while she was in the ward. Seven years on, as the local paper reminded us this week, the killer has never been found.

From the Midlands Regional Hospital (where I've been treated, long ago) in Mullingar, Ireland:

A healthcare worker who sexually assaulted a teenage girl and a woman while taking blood samples in a Midlands hospital emergency department has been spared jail.

And yet to Netflix "toxic masculinity" is a white English boy. The evil bastard Starmer has now decided that this perverse drama is not just another bit of telly crap but so vital to the populace that it has to be shown in school.

It is less than a year since the evil bastard and his minions imposed a fraud on his nation by passing off the killer of three little girls in Southport as a rugger-playing male-voice-choir-singing Welsh boyo - rather than the Islamic convert of migrant stock that he is in what we used to call reality. And, if you were minded to disagree with the evil bastard on social media, he had you thrown in gaol.

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Reply #2 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:16pm
 
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Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
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A few years before I started high school the Montreal massacre at École Polytechnique took the lives of 14 women. Every year on the anniversary the female teachers would spend the whole day hectoring us about "violence against women", insinuating that every boy in the class was a potential mass shooter held back only by their fearless nagging.

The shooter's name was Marc Lépine. Supposedly. Implication: just another white man driven mad by misogyny!

I didn't find out he'd been born Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi until I was in my 30s. Guy wasn't French-Canadian. He was Algerian. But they let us all think he was white, because they wanted to weaponize his crimes against the consciences of teenage white boys.

This is exactly the same shite.

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The lies we are told, indeed.

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The Montreal massacre would become the standard operating procedure for the entire western world: the "son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater" or some such preying on the women, while their menfolk walk away and literally turn a blind eye, while the governing class imposes an utterly fraudulent narrative on the national consciousness. And so it goes - in England, Ireland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, Your Patch Of A Dying Christendom Here...




For women's groups, the Montreal Massacre is an atrocity that taints all men, and for which all men must acknowledge their guilt. Marc Lépine symbolizes the murderous misogyny that lurks within us all.

M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since.

Ah, well, I would bring that up, wouldn't I? Just for the record, I'm not saying that M Lépine is representative of Algerian manhood or Muslim manhood. I'm saying he shouldn't be representative of anything -- least of all, the best efforts of women's groups and the convenient gloss of that pure laine name notwithstanding, Canadian manhood.

UPDATE: I doubt I'd write that today, if only because, while M Gharbi might not have been all that representative in the 1980s, he's certainly a lot more representative than he used to be - if only because the Muslim population of Canada has more than quadrupled since I wrote that line, and has similarly accelerated throughout Britain, Western Europe and elsewhere.
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Reply #5 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:21pm:
The Montreal massacre would become the standard operating procedure for the entire western world: the "son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater" or some such preying on the women, while their menfolk walk away and literally turn a blind eye, while the governing class imposes an utterly fraudulent narrative on the national consciousness. And so it goes - in England, Ireland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, Your Patch Of A Dying Christendom Here...




For women's groups, the Montreal Massacre is an atrocity that taints all men, and for which all men must acknowledge their guilt. Marc Lépine symbolizes the murderous misogyny that lurks within us all.

M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since.

Ah, well, I would bring that up, wouldn't I? Just for the record, I'm not saying that M Lépine is representative of Algerian manhood or Muslim manhood. I'm saying he shouldn't be representative of anything -- least of all, the best efforts of women's groups and the convenient gloss of that pure laine name notwithstanding, Canadian manhood.

UPDATE: I doubt I'd write that today, if only because, while M Gharbi might not have been all that representative in the 1980s, he's certainly a lot more representative than he used to be - if only because the Muslim population of Canada has more than quadrupled since I wrote that line, and has similarly accelerated throughout Britain, Western Europe and elsewhere.
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Er - Frank, a reminder  from your favourite (though despised)  'parrot': don't forget - like Trump does -  the reasons for  immigration, and the influx of  "the rapists and murderers"  among them, namely dysfunctional economic realities all around the world.   

And at home: young men can no longer see a way to buying a house and raising a family - in the dysfunctional  low-wage, insecure gig economy which Trump is trying to rectify  by bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Hence the 'toxic masculinity' narrative of the mainstream which  Starmer thinks has something to teach society. 
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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 7:07pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:52pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:21pm:
The Montreal massacre would become the standard operating procedure for the entire western world: the "son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater" or some such preying on the women, while their menfolk walk away and literally turn a blind eye, while the governing class imposes an utterly fraudulent narrative on the national consciousness. And so it goes - in England, Ireland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, Your Patch Of A Dying Christendom Here...




For women's groups, the Montreal Massacre is an atrocity that taints all men, and for which all men must acknowledge their guilt. Marc Lépine symbolizes the murderous misogyny that lurks within us all.

M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since.

Ah, well, I would bring that up, wouldn't I? Just for the record, I'm not saying that M Lépine is representative of Algerian manhood or Muslim manhood. I'm saying he shouldn't be representative of anything -- least of all, the best efforts of women's groups and the convenient gloss of that pure laine name notwithstanding, Canadian manhood.

UPDATE: I doubt I'd write that today, if only because, while M Gharbi might not have been all that representative in the 1980s, he's certainly a lot more representative than he used to be - if only because the Muslim population of Canada has more than quadrupled since I wrote that line, and has similarly accelerated throughout Britain, Western Europe and elsewhere.
https://www.steynonline.com/15191/lies-we-tell-ourselves


Er - Frank, a reminder  from your favourite (though despised)  'parrot': don't forget - like Trump does -  the reasons for  immigration, and the influx of  "the rapists and murderers"  among them, namely dysfunctional economic realities all around the world.   

And at home: young men can no longer see a way to buying a house and raising a family - in the dysfunctional  low-wage, insecure gig economy which Trump is trying to rectify  by bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Hence the 'toxic masculinity' narrative of the mainstream which  Starmer thinks has something to teach society. 




So Keir Starmer is tripping over himself to change laws on “toxic masculinity” because of a TV episode, but refused a national enquiry on Pakistani-Muslim grooming gangs.

Yet more proof that Labour cares more about identity politics than protecting little British girls.
https://x.com/SamanthaTaghoy/status/1907389264158974146
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Reply #7 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 7:07pm
 
For Keir Starmer to suggest Adolescence must be shown in all schools is a hopeless piece of political virtue-signalling, desperate to ride the coat-tails of popular opinion, illustrating that he doesn’t really want to understand the nature of the problem; What will teenagers get from watching it?

The majority of boys who carry a knife do so because they believe others do, not because they are misogynist incels. The fear is of being stabbed themselves, not because they intend to attack teenage girls. There is a reason why boys make up the majority of victims, and why black boys are over represented in those statistics.

Two weeks ago I led a debate in Parliament about ‘Knife crime amongst children and young people’. Perhaps if the Prime Minister felt the topic was truly important he might have made time for it to be discussed rather than the issue being forced by myself as an opposition backbencher.

Until we are prepared to frankly and robustly address why our children are carrying knives, and more still why so many have become prepared to kill, we simply will not stop this senseless loss of life.

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Reply #8 - Apr 5th, 2025 at 7:11pm
 
Keir Starmer’s Britain: Where Fiction Is Mandatory


In a move that’s definitely not dystopian, Keir Starmer has announced Labour’s new education policy: "fiction is now mandatory, truth is conditional, and moral outrage is allocated based on the victim’s ethnicity, gender, and sexual proclivities. "
At the centre of this re-education experiment is Adolescence, a Netflix drama now being rolled out in schools. It claims to be “based on a true story”—in the same way EastEnders is based on real London life. In truth, a young girl was murdered. In the show, the black killer has been quietly race-swapped into a white, working-class boy radicalised by podcasts and a lack of youth club access.
Primary children will now be required to chant "transwomen are women" at assembly. Once a great place to start the day with "Shine Jesus Shine" or  other old skool Christian assembly bangers,  Christianity has now been declared a "gateway to the Far Right", and any child caught promoting outdated ideology like, "Peace, Tolerance and Forgiveness", will be immediately excluded under the new scheme.
Instead, children of junior age will take part in workshops where they apologise for their skin tone while crocheting Pro Hamas slogans into doilies. The PSHE syllabus will include a ceremonial apology for the British Empire with a performance of Toxic Masculinity: The Musical, funded by the Department for Equalities and Interpretive Dance.
To help ease NHS spending on contraception and abortion, Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips will now lead nationwide anal sex workshops, teaching schoolgirls how to avoid pregnancy while staying culturally open-minded. The pilot scheme—Back Door to Empowerment—has been described as “inclusive, lubricated, and uncomfortably funded.” And, in a special school assembly next week, Bonnie Blue will demonstrate how British girls can reframe their gangrape as "cultural hospitality"—a progressive act of openness, bravery, and surrender to imported values.
Meanwhile, Labour continues to obsess over misogyny in white working-class boys, while just days ago they celebrated Eid by praising the Ottoman Empire—a regime best known for child slaves, sexual harems, and flaying people alive for apostasy.
Diane Abbott added, “It’s vital we teach white working-class boys not to grope women, while simultaneously respecting cultures where it’s illegal to show a woman’s elbow.”
Recognising that made up stories on TV are more valuable than actual facts, other exciting reforms include a complete overhaul of professional training, replacing education with entertainment:
Barristers will no longer study law, but instead watch Rumpole of the Bailey in combination with Jim’ll Fix It, before sitting an oral exam titled When Banter Becomes Evidence.
Police officers will be trained watching The Bill, specialising in community cohesion, progressive tasering, and apologising for stop and search in three languages.
The prison service will be trained entirely from watching Prisoner: Cell Block H, with coursework on inclusive strip searches, hormone logistics, and gender-neutral riot suppression.
Medical students will now qualify by diagnosing fictional conditions from Casualty, followed by a Grey’s Anatomy quiz on who cried hardest during surgery.
New farmers will be trained via The Archers, focusing on rural conflict resolution, organic cow consent, and how to build a polytunnel during a panic attack.
MI5 recruits will be selected using escape rooms themed on Spooks, James Bond and The Night Manager.
Aspiring teachers must binge-watch Waterloo Road, learn how to spot unconscious bias in a lunchbox, and pass an exam on glue-sniffing prevention based entirely on the lyrics to “Just Say No”.
And above it all looms Adolescence—a state-mandated hallucination where children learn that truth is racist, fiction is sacred, and everything can be healed with guilt and a musical number.
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2025 at 2:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 7:07pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:52pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:21pm:
The Montreal massacre would become the standard operating procedure for the entire western world: the "son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater" or some such preying on the women, while their menfolk walk away and literally turn a blind eye, while the governing class imposes an utterly fraudulent narrative on the national consciousness. And so it goes - in England, Ireland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, Your Patch Of A Dying Christendom Here...




For women's groups, the Montreal Massacre is an atrocity that taints all men, and for which all men must acknowledge their guilt. Marc Lépine symbolizes the murderous misogyny that lurks within us all.

M Lépine was born Gamil Gharbi, the son of an Algerian Muslim wife-beater, whose brutalized spouse told the court at their divorce hearing that her husband "had a total disdain for women and believed they were intended only to serve men." At eighteen, young Gamil took his mother's maiden name. The Gazette in Montreal mentioned this in its immediate reports of the massacre. The name "Gamil Gharbi" has not sullied its pages in the thirteen years since.

Ah, well, I would bring that up, wouldn't I? Just for the record, I'm not saying that M Lépine is representative of Algerian manhood or Muslim manhood. I'm saying he shouldn't be representative of anything -- least of all, the best efforts of women's groups and the convenient gloss of that pure laine name notwithstanding, Canadian manhood.

UPDATE: I doubt I'd write that today, if only because, while M Gharbi might not have been all that representative in the 1980s, he's certainly a lot more representative than he used to be - if only because the Muslim population of Canada has more than quadrupled since I wrote that line, and has similarly accelerated throughout Britain, Western Europe and elsewhere.
https://www.steynonline.com/15191/lies-we-tell-ourselves


Er - Frank, a reminder  from your favourite (though despised)  'parrot': don't forget - like Trump does -  the reasons for  immigration, and the influx of  "the rapists and murderers"  among them, namely dysfunctional economic realities all around the world.   

And at home: young men can no longer see a way to buying a house and raising a family - in the dysfunctional  low-wage, insecure gig economy which Trump is trying to rectify  by bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US.

Hence the 'toxic masculinity' narrative of the mainstream which  Starmer thinks has something to teach society. 




So Keir Starmer is tripping over himself to change laws on “toxic masculinity” because of a TV episode, but refused a national enquiry on Pakistani-Muslim grooming gangs.

Yet more proof that Labour cares more about identity politics than protecting little British girls.
https://x.com/SamanthaTaghoy/status/1907389264158974146


I agree - but you like Starmer (and Trump) don't want to address the social consequernces of  mainstream economic dysfunction which feed into social break-down including violence against women, regardless of issues re ethnicity.

At least Trump IS trying to deal with the economic effects of dysfunctional mainstrean economics....we now live in VERY "exciting" times, in which it's impossible to predict how Tump's GLOBAL tariffs will play out around the world, (unless he withdraws them before they take effect, which is a possibility - I hear he doesn't like  prolonged  market down-turns).   
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Reply #10 - Apr 6th, 2025 at 3:51pm
 
The Great Inflation was always going to happen (just like the Great Depression). Wether by foresight or fluke?? Trump has battened down the hatches and gone on a preparation attack to get the USA economy some ground back and is pushing Canada and Mexico to follow his lead. Get the money back and stop throwing it away overseas under some illusion that it's the USA's job to do the UN's work for it.
Alas for the NLP, they're gonna have a stinker 4 years doing the same and won't be thanked for it by a population suffering from a Great Inflation effect.

...of course War will be the next step for many nations to get ahead after such an economic inability to keep up with the Joneses.
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Reply #11 - Apr 6th, 2025 at 9:33pm
 
The BIG lie is:

Things can always go on like this.
Colonialism is to blame.
Personal responsibility and drive are to blame.
White privilege.
Systemic disadvantage
Primitive is virtuous.

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Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 4:16pm:
Gweggy creep censoring the post:


Frank wrote on Apr 5th, 2025 at 12:32pm:
MOD: racist propaganda removed.

Don't post that crap here, Frannie.





Fantasy lie:

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Reality truth:

Co-creator Stephen Graham has said that one of the real-life incidents that inspired Adolescence was a ‘young girl in south London who was stabbed to death at a bus stop’ – a reference to the 2023 murder of Elianne Andam by Hassan Sentamu in Croydon. Everyone knows that this had nothing to do with the manosphere, and that the backgrounds of the perpetrator and victim were very different from the characters in Adolescence.



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The court heard that Sentamu, who had a history of attacking girls and carrying knives, killed the popular schoolgirl in front of other children, shoppers and commuters.
The trigger for his actions was his "short temper and aggressive tendencies", while he had also made a "deliberate decision to carry a knife", the judge said at the sentencing hearing, which was televised.

Addressing 18-year-old Sentamu, Mrs Andam said: "You brutally murdered her in the most humiliating way in broad daylight; mercilessly killing her on the floor as she begged for mercy.  You walked away showing no remorse as if her life meant nothing.  You did not only kill Elianne, you killed me mentally and emotionally. Your actions were senseless and evil."


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Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:06am:
Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:03am:
Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:57am:
Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 9:37am:
It was from the BBC, ya creepy mong.


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Your intent is racist.

Leave it out of this MRB.





Co-creator Stephen Graham has said that one of the real-life incidents that inspired Adolescence was a ‘young girl in south London who was stabbed to death at a bus stop’ – a reference to the 2023 murder of Elianne Andam by Hassan Sentamu in Croydon.

It is distorting, nor merely fictionalising,  reality  - ie lying - to present a story about a dysfunctional black teenage murderer of another black teenager as a story about a white boy from a loving family murdering another white girl.

Adolescence IS a lying presentation, a deliberate distortion.



It's a fictional TV show, Frannie.

You don't really think Superman can fly, do you?




Despite making up only 13% of London’s total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London’s knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators.
[url]https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community[/url]




It is a lying, deliberate distortion like a black Anne Boleyn or Macbeth. It is a cover-up.

Imagine the same 4 part series depicting a murderous black teenager from a dysfunctional background. It would have been honest and real, not a deliberate lie.

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Reply #14 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 1:20pm
 
Lesson 1, Statistics for beginners - "Correlation does not denote causation".  When you understand that you will be on the way to understanding why your beliefs are all wrong, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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