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Reply #15 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 1:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
Lesson 1, Statistics for beginners - "Correlation does not denote causation".  When you understand that you will be on the way to understanding why your beliefs are all wrong, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Correlation does indicate a parallel  relationship, cockwomble.
If the correlation coefficient has a positive value (above 0) it indicates a positive relationship between the variables meaning that both variables move in tandem, i.e. as one variable decreases the other also decreases, or when one variable increases the other also increases.


There is a very strong correlation between violent crime and blackness, especially young male blackness.  This correlation is strongly evident in London, Chicago, Alice Spings.




To Netflix "toxic masculinity" is a white English boy. Starmer has now decided that this perverse drama is not just another bit of telly crap but so vital to the populace that it has to be shown in school.

It is less than a year since Starmer and his minions imposed a fraud on his nation by passing off the killer of three little girls in Southport as a rugger-playing male-voice-choir-singing Welsh boyo - rather than the Islamic convert of migrant stock that he is in what we used to call reality. And, if you were minded to disagree with the evil bastard on social media, Starmer had you thrown in gaol.
https://www.steynonline.com/15191/lies-we-tell-ourselves

Fiction (top) versus reality(bottom)


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Will Floyd George be played by Brad Pitt and Barrack Obama by Meryl Streep in the upcoming Netflix biopic?

So race will not cross anyone's parochial little antipodean "minds"?
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Reply #16 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 5:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 1:20pm:
Lesson 1, Statistics for beginners - "Correlation does not denote causation".  When you understand that you will be on the way to understanding why your beliefs are all wrong, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Facts are not wacist.

Homicide rates in England and Wales 2011-2024, by ethnicity
Published by D. Clark, Mar 19, 2025
Between 2021 and 2024, the homicide rate for people of the Black ethnic group was 39.8 homicides per million population in England and Wales, far higher than that of the white ethnic group, which was 8.5 victims per million population for the same time period.
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Reply #17 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 5:22pm
 
Brad Pitt as Saint George Floyd!  Grin Can't wait to see it.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #18 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 5:29pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 5:22pm:
Brad Pitt as Saint George Floyd!  Grin Can't wait to see it.



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Reply #19 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 6:59pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 5:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 4:58pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 2:15pm:
You've utterly putrefied in your hatred. You're just a decomposing heap of spittle drenched meat.

What a ridiculous little tantrum.


Just imagine if the show depicted a mixed race family.

Frannie would have lost his mind.




And the absolute kicker is he hasn't even seen it. He's simply been told how to react.

Just like his blind and contrary devotion to Trump.

I am fed up to the back teeth with you bastards denigrating, misrepresenting, lying about your own, and my, cultural inheritance. I will simply not acquiesce.
You can throw all your idiotic, lying crap, it ain't sticking. You are lying about your own culture AND about other, alien cultures which you have no understanding of.

If blacks, Muslims, Abos fitted in they wouldn't be insanely overrepresented in crime , violence, murder.
And you and I are NOT making them behave abonibly. It is not colonialism, it is not wacism. Depicting black teenage murderers as white British boys from a loving family is a lying, despicable piece of propaganda. You love it, I hate it.

We BOTH recognise it.

That is the kicker.

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Reply #20 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:05pm
 
Correlation does not represent Causation, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:05pm:
Correlation does not represent Causation, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Focus, nappy shitting eejit. Focus. I know it is hard for you, post-stroke, with a full nappy, but DO try.


Correlation does indicate a parallel  relationship, cockwomble.
If the correlation coefficient has a positive value (above 0) it indicates a positive relationship between the variables meaning that both variables move in tandem, i.e. as one variable decreases the other also decreases, or when one variable increases the other also increases.


There is a very strong correlation between violent crime and blackness, especially young male blackness.  This correlation is strongly evident in London, Chicago, Alice Spings.


Now stop shitting yourself again and again as if you did not comprehend the point.  You are not some paki arse bandit or a Slovenian creep, after all. You are more educated than most here. Act accordinglly.
If you can....

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Reply #22 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:58pm
 
mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 7:25pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 7:23pm:
mothra wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 7:18pm:
It's a fictional series, old boy. It's not based on anyone at all.

My god but you're preposterous.

It is about black teenage knife crime whitewashed, lyingly, as something white British boys from loving, whole families do.

A preposterous lie.


That IS why you and creep boost it. You DO see the lie, you do see the sleight of hand. EVERYBODY does. But you lie about it.



Oh white boys have always done it. What's concerning those watching is that it's on the rise.

Do you know what 80:20 means? No? You're irredeemably out of touch.

And who killed James Bulger?



Imagine if poor Bulger's killers were, lyingly, depicted as blacks. You would protest, dishonest, hypocritical old ****, wouldn't you. Of course you would.


Knife crime is black crime. Be honest,
But you won't be. Honesty is 'wacism'.


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Reply #23 - Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:07pm
 
Correlation does not denote Causation, Soren.  You must rid yourself of your outmoded thinking on the matter.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 9:33am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:07pm:
Correlation does not denote Causation, Soren.  You must rid yourself of your outmoded thinking on the matter.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Correlation does indicate a parallel  relationship, cockwomble. If the correlation coefficient has a positive value (above 0) it indicates a positive relationship between the variables meaning that both variables move in tandem, i.e. as one variable decreases the other also decreases, or when one variable increases the other also increases.


There is a very strong correlation between violent crime and blackness, especially young male blackness.  This correlation is strongly evident in London, Chicago, Alice Spings.


Now stop shitting yourself again and again and pretending that you did not comprehend the point
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Reply #25 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 12:03pm
 
Correlation does not denote Causation, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 12:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2025 at 9:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 10:07pm:
Correlation does not denote Causation, Soren.  You must rid yourself of your outmoded thinking on the matter.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Correlation does indicate a parallel  relationship, cockwomble. If the correlation coefficient has a positive value (above 0) it indicates a positive relationship between the variables meaning that both variables move in tandem, i.e. as one variable decreases the other also decreases, or when one variable increases the other also increases.


There is a very strong correlation between violent crime and blackness, especially young male blackness.  This correlation is strongly evident in London, Chicago, Alice Spings.


Now stop shitting yourself again and again and pretending that you did not comprehend the point




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Reply #27 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 6:05pm
 
They look upset about the increased tariffs on exporting their machete industry.
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Reply #28 - Apr 9th, 2025 at 6:21pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 6th, 2025 at 9:33pm:
The BIG lie is:

Things can always go on like this.
Colonialism is to blame.
Personal responsibility and drive are to blame.
White privilege.
Systemic disadvantage
Primitive is virtuous.
Criminals are victims
Tinted criminals are victims twice over




The knife went in

Listening as I do every day to the accounts people give of their lives, I am struck by the very small part in them which they ascribe to their own efforts, choices, and actions. Implicitly, they disagree with Bacon’s famous dictum that “chiefly the mould of a man’s fortune is in his own hands.” Instead, they experience themselves as putty in the hands of fate.

It is instructive to listen to the language they use to describe their lives. The language of prisoners in particular teaches much about the dishonest fatalism with which people seek to explain themselves to others, especially when those others are in a position to help them in some way. As a doctor who sees patients in a prison once or twice a week, I am fascinated by prisoners’ use of the passive mood and other modes of speech that are supposed to indicate their helplessness. They describe themselves as the marionettes of happenstance.

Not long ago, a murderer entered my room in the prison shortly after his arrest to seek a prescription for the methadone to which he was addicted. I told him that I would prescribe a reducing dose, and that within a relatively short time my prescription would cease. I would not prescribe a maintenance dose for a man with a life sentence.

“Yes,” he said, “it’s just my luck to be here on this charge.”

Luck? He had already served a dozen prison sentences, many of them for violence, and on the night in question had carried a knife with him, which he must have known from experience that he was inclined to use. But it was the victim of the stabbing who was the real author of the killer’s action: if he hadn’t been there, he wouldn’t have been stabbed.

My murderer was by no means alone in explaining his deed as due to circumstances beyond his control. As it happens, there are three stabbers (two of them unto death) at present in the prison who used precisely the same expression when describing to me what happened. “The knife went in,” they said when pressed to recover their allegedly lost memories of the deed.

The knife went in—unguided by human hand, apparently. That the long-hated victims were sought out, and the knives carried to the scene of the crimes, was as nothing compared with the willpower possessed by the inanimate knives themselves, which determined the unfortunate outcome.

The rest is here.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-knife-went-in

This article is 30 years old but it is as true now as it was then. Even truer .... 
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Reply #29 - Apr 10th, 2025 at 5:51pm
 
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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