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Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines
Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:25am

The Albanese Government is forking out billions for nuclear-powered AUKUS submarines Sad

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The Albanese Government has cranked up funding for AUKUS to $18 billion over five years, largely as a tribute payment to President Trump.

This represents an additional $6 billion compared to last year’s budget for nuclear-powered submarines. This AUKUS cost will keep growing year by year, with a total project cost now hitting $375 billion. Shocked

This is funding that will not be going towards the things the public needs, like dental and mental health into Medicare, public housing or funding public education.

This budget also sees the Albanese Government paying $1.6 billion to make a nuclear submarine base for the US off the coast of Perth at HMAS Stirling.

Labor has also budgeted to pay $445.4 million as a payment to “sustain” nuclear submarines over the next five years, which are submarines we don't have. This funding will likely instead sustain US nuclear submarines, having Australian taxpayers subsidise Donald Trump’s military.

There will also be $28 million to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for “international policy advice and diplomatic support for the nuclear-powered submarine program.” Effectively, funding to send diplomats to beg Donald Trump to give us nuclear submarines.

Largely due to AUKUS, the total Defence budget is now almost $59 billion a year and now makes up 6.6% of all Government expenditure.

David Shoebridge, Greens spokesperson on Defence, said: “On the same day that Donald Trump and his mates shared secret war plans with a journalist on Signal, the Albanese government decided to double down on AUKUS, adding an extra $6 billion to the forward estimates.

“Why on earth, in the middle of a cost of living crisis, as the climate crisis gets worse, is the Albanese Government choosing to dump billions more into nuclear submarines we will never get? Sad

“It is all part of this dangerous escalation in the region. Australia is rapidly militarising and becoming an arm of the US military. This isn't keeping anyone safe.

“This budget has the Albanese Government paying $445.4 million over the forward estimates to 'sustain' US nuclear-powered submarines, and another $1.6 billion to build the US a nuclear submarine base off Perth. This only makes us less safe.

“Millions of Australians can see that AUKUS is sinking, but Labor and the Coalition keep pouring Australia's treasure into it in the doomed hope it will make Donald Trump play nice.“

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whiteknight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8513 melbourne Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #1 - Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:26am Where's the money coming from?
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2654 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #2 - Mar 28^th, 2025 at 8:59am whiteknight wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:26am: Where's the money coming from? A fraction of it is coming from your pocket. One of the most idiotic deals that Australia has ever done.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109510 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #3 - Mar 28^th, 2025 at 9:08am whiteknight wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:26am: Where's the money coming from? $368 billion will be printed by the RBA to cover it. It will cause more inflation.
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Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines
Reply #4 - Mar 28^th, 2025 at 9:55am

whiteknight wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:25am:

The Albanese Government is forking out billions for nuclear-powered AUKUS submarines Sad

2025-03-26
greens.org.au
The Albanese Government has cranked up funding for AUKUS to $18 billion over five years, largely as a tribute payment to President Trump.

This represents an additional $6 billion compared to last year’s budget for nuclear-powered submarines. This AUKUS cost will keep growing year by year, with a total project cost now hitting $375 billion. Shocked

This is funding that will not be going towards the things the public needs, like dental and mental health into Medicare, public housing or funding public education.

This budget also sees the Albanese Government paying $1.6 billion to make a nuclear submarine base for the US off the coast of Perth at HMAS Stirling.

Labor has also budgeted to pay $445.4 million as a payment to “sustain” nuclear submarines over the next five years, which are submarines we don't have. This funding will likely instead sustain US nuclear submarines, having Australian taxpayers subsidise Donald Trump’s military.

There will also be $28 million to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for “international policy advice and diplomatic support for the nuclear-powered submarine program.” Effectively, funding to send diplomats to beg Donald Trump to give us nuclear submarines.

Largely due to AUKUS, the total Defence budget is now almost $59 billion a year and now makes up 6.6% of all Government expenditure.

David Shoebridge, Greens spokesperson on Defence, said: “On the same day that Donald Trump and his mates shared secret war plans with a journalist on Signal, the Albanese government decided to double down on AUKUS, adding an extra $6 billion to the forward estimates.

“Why on earth, in the middle of a cost of living crisis, as the climate crisis gets worse, is the Albanese Government choosing to dump billions more into nuclear submarines we will never get? Sad

“It is all part of this dangerous escalation in the region. Australia is rapidly militarising and becoming an arm of the US military. This isn't keeping anyone safe.

“This budget has the Albanese Government paying $445.4 million over the forward estimates to 'sustain' US nuclear-powered submarines, and another $1.6 billion to build the US a nuclear submarine base off Perth. This only makes us less safe.

“Millions of Australians can see that AUKUS is sinking, but Labor and the Coalition keep pouring Australia's treasure into it in the doomed hope it will make Donald Trump play nice.“

Two mistakes there. First of all, there's been no talk of Australia not getting nuclear powered submarines. Secondly, we aren't becoming an arm of the US military. If anything, under Trump, we are being shown we cannot rely on the US (nor should we) and that we need to have the tools to defend ourselves. This capability gives us those tools. I'm glad the Greens weren't around in the 1930's and 1940's, or else I suspect we'd all be speaking Japanese right now.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109510 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #5 - Mar 28^th, 2025 at 10:00am Armchair_Politician wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 9:55am: I'm glad the Greens weren't around in the 1930's and 1940's, or else I suspect we'd all be speaking Japanese right now.
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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2654 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #6 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 8:04am Submarines are absolutely useless against air attack or air invasion, and any such action is far more probable than any sea borne attack.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 50893 Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #7 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 8:33am Let's add the ALPs anti nuclear NLP energy, yet want nuclear subs. Let's add that this will blow out to billions more.
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Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines
Reply #8 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 9:03am

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 29^th, 2025 at 8:04am:

Submarines are absolutely useless against air attack or air invasion, and any such action is far more probable than any sea borne attack.

Really? So you don't think that a submarine can lurk undetected off the coast of a hostile nation and launch an attack at an airbase if the need should arise? A submarine is probably the ONLY way to do such an attack without risking detection. The nuclear powered submarines we will be buying from the US have this very capability with the missiles having a range of 2,000 kilometres.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109510 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #9 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:14am Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Mar 29^th, 2025 at 8:04am: Submarines are absolutely useless against air attack or air invasion, and any such action is far more probable than any sea borne attack. Most attacks will come from the sea - warships firing missiles.
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Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines
Reply #10 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:16am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 9:08am:

whiteknight wrote on Mar 28^th, 2025 at 6:26am:

Where's the money coming from? Sad

$368 billion will be printed by the RBA to cover it.

It will cause more inflation.

It's good value .. the submarines even come with flyscreens included. Thats normally an optional extra.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #11 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:32am

Can we trust Yanky technology?

U.S. allies are rethinking their F-35 fighter jet purchases amid concerns over Trump's "kill switch" rumours. Over 1,000 F-35s are in operation across 20 countries, but geopolitical uncertainty raises doubts. Portugal, Canada, and Germany are reconsidering cancelling their purchases.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 109510 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Forking Out Billions For AUKUS Submarines Reply #12 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:36am Video: https://m3.gab.com/media_attachments/23/2e/78/232e78906c6a2ca498101d96d55dd89d.m...
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Reply #13 - Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:50am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 29^th, 2025 at 10:36am:

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“Enough is enough!! The Americans have taken Australia’s land for their military bases. They’ve taken our wealth, through their corporations, while paying almost no tax. They have saddled us and our future generations with the enormous debt of AUKUS, and no they’re wacking tariffs on Australian goods. . . . It’s time for Australians to reject AUKUS altogether.”
. . . . Robert Barwick, Citizens Party Senate candidate for Victoria

Cancel the AUKUS agreement immediately

Trump’s 25% tariff on steel and aluminium is the wake-up call to CANCEL AUKUS !!!

The US has slapped Australia with a 25% tariff on steel and aluminium just days after Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles handed over $800 million to ramp up US submarine production.

Really!! Our US ‘ally’ collects ‘tribute’ and tariffs on our exports and tells us we need to prepare for war with our largest trading partner! Is this in OUR interest?

AUKUS is a $368 billion extortion payment to the US and UK for “protection” we don’t need and which those countries will never actually provide.

In recent decades our relationship with the US has become even more subservient. We have:
• supported its forever wars,
• allowed it to establish a military presence in Australia that is unprecedented in peacetime including:
o a base for US Marines in Darwin,
o a base for “nuclear-capable” B52 bombers in Darwin,
o B2 nuclear capable stealth bombers in Brisbane, and
o nuclear submarines in Perth, and
o use Pine Gap in the Northern Territory implicating Australia in every war and war crime America and its allies commit including:
• drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen that killed hundreds of civilians,
• the war in Afghanistan,
• regime-change wars in Libya and Syria,
• the use of US missiles against Russia, and
• Israel’s scorched-earth bombing of Gaza.

Demand that Australia’s House of Representatives cancel the expensive, unreliable, and provocative AUKUS agreement, and invest the money we save in infrastructure and services to benefit Australians.

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