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Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:09am
 
Woman has told Q+A of sad issues of getting a job in her 50s   Sad
A Melbourne woman has shared a horrifying job interview on national television, describing how she was advised to lie about her age on her CV.


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March 24, 2025

A woman has revealed on national television the horrifying reality of being an older person searching for a job in Australia.

Charlotte, describing herself as “a lady in her 50s”, told her story on Monday night’s episode of Q+A focused on Tuesday’s federal budget.

“I am finding it very difficult to get employment. No one wants to employ me unfortunately at my age,” Charlotte said.

She revealed that she was receiving Jobseeker which paid $500 a week – a number which was inclusive of her $450/week rent.

“So I’m expected to live off $50 a week,” Charlotte said.

“And I’m not unusual. It is really difficult to find a job out there if you’re a women over 50.”

Charlotte says she has to live on Jobseeker payment of $500 a week.

Charlotte then spoke of the shocking lie she had been advised to tell to secure an interview.

“I was advised to change my CV – maybe take 10 or 15 years off.”

But the tip resulted in an awful experience for the woman.


“I went for this job interview and the gentleman who was doing the interview was horrified when he saw me,” Charlotte said.

“It was so obvious.”

Charlotte’s story followed a plea from another older woman in the audience, Vanessa, for there to be more in the budget to help people like her.

Vanessa said she was looking to both politicians and the upcoming federal budget to “actually do the right thing for all older Victorians and Australians as a whole”.

Vanessa says she is the sole wage earner making it hard for her and her husband to afford the rent in Melbourne.

“I am now the sole bread winner. And to tell you with some level of certainty, there’s no way we’re able to afford a house in Australia on our own,” Vanessa said.

“What this means is into the future, there’s the big worry hanging on our heads.

“Older Australians are at the risk of more rental stress and at the same time and at worse homelessness.”

Show host, Patricia Karvelas, said “I hear these stories a lot and I think journalists hear these

stories every day.”

“Your story actually tells a really important story of people in their older years,” Ms Karvelas said after asking the audience to raise their hand if the situation resonated with them.

In a Budget-focused Q+A episode, host Patricia Karvelas asked the panel “what’s it going to take” for Australians to see cost of living changes.

Charlotte is currently completing her master of counselling while also raising her 18-year-old twins.

“We have to pool our money in together,” the mother of two said.

She also said her ex-husband was “very decent” and helped the family out with their energy bills.

Karvelas then put the focus back on the panel, using the audience’s experiences to ask what it would take for Australians to see change come from the federal budget.

“I think that when we have these conversations about cost of living … we feel like sometimes … we have it in the abstract,” Karvelas said.

“But these stories are everywhere. And people like you wait for budgets or opportunities for genuine change, but it feels like it’s always incremental.

“What’s it going to take to shift the dial?”

Treasurer Jim Chalmers will hand down his fourth budget at 7.30pm on Tuesday. He has already flagged measures to help with the cost of living crisis.
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Reply #1 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am
 
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:32am
 
Er, because we live longer than most other nations?
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Reply #3 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:45am
 
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


67 is not that old, many people work well into their seventies.
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Reply #4 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:31am
 
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


Because the Liberals spent 15 years blocking increases to the super guarantee this drastically increased the cost of paying pensions and forced up the retirement age.
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Reply #5 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:54am
 
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad



Ask the Labor Party(Paul Keating) ..... they're the ones that lifted it from 60 to 65 for women in 1994. All in the name of equality you know?

Then everyones friend(I'm Sorry) Kevin the Dud Rudd another Labor Prime Minister lifted it from 65 to 67 for everyone.

And back dated it's effectiveness for increase back to 1953- if you were born that year that's when an extra 6 months was added to your eligibility.

I had 18 months added to my eligibility after I turned 65 because I was born 1956.
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Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:55am
 
Jasin wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:32am:
Er, because we live longer than most other nations?



Most other nations don't have a pension scheme like we do.
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Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:58am
 
Leroy wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:45am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


67 is not that old, many people work well into their seventies.


Tell that to a tradie or labourer.

Those that do it's their choice & I bet it's not usually any sort of manual labour.

Those that choose to work until they die are stupid & just playing into govt hands - who'd love to wipe the pension .... so they'd have more of our money to waste.
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Reply #8 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:02am
 
Gnads wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:45am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


67 is not that old, many people work well into their seventies.


Tell that to a tradie or labourer.

Those that do it's their choice & I bet it's not usually any sort of manual labour.

Those that choose to work until they die are stupid & just playing into govt hands - who'd love to wipe the pension .... so they'd have more of our money to waste.



The Govt wants you to die at your desk - at your worksite - on the job.
That's because no money was ever set aside to pay pensions -
all that tax money you paid towards your pension? -
they spent it all and borrowed more -
it's all paid for by printing more money and causing inflation
which eats up any money you saved in the bank.
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Reply #9 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:03am
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:31am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


Because the Liberals spent 15 years blocking increases to the super guarantee this drastically increased the cost of paying pensions and forced up the retirement age.



$10k was chicken feed.

There should have been no limit on what an individual could pay into their super from either party.

And there should be no tax payable on employee superannuation. They've already been taxed on what they put in.

Yes there should be a limit on employer guarantee contributions.
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Reply #10 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:14am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:02am:
Gnads wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 10:58am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:45am:
whiteknight wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 7:11am:
Why does Australia have such a high pension age?.   Sad


67 is not that old, many people work well into their seventies.


Tell that to a tradie or labourer.

Those that do it's their choice & I bet it's not usually any sort of manual labour.

Those that choose to work until they die are stupid & just playing into govt hands - who'd love to wipe the pension .... so they'd have more of our money to waste.



The Govt wants you to die at your desk - at your worksite - on the job.
That's because no money was ever set aside to pay pensions -
all that tax money you paid towards your pension? -
they spent it all and borrowed more -
it's all paid for by printing more money and causing inflation
which eats up any money you saved in the bank.


I think most people do as well. Most people need to work to have a purpose in life, it is also a social outlet. You have 35 years to sort your life out, if you haven't got it sorted by 50 years old you aint never going to get it right.
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Reply #11 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:26am
 
Leroy wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:14am:
I think most people do as well.
Most people need to work to have a purpose in life, it is also a social outlet.
You have 35 years to sort your life out,
if you haven't got it sorted by 50 years old you aint never going to get it right.



Many people are brainwashed by the age of 50 and just keep on working
without even knowing why.
You shouldn't need to work to have a purpose in life.
I knew a guy who owned 6 or 7 houses and was still working at the age of 70 -
what the hell for?
Was he just a robot?

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Reply #12 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:35am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:26am:
Leroy wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 11:14am:
I think most people do as well.
Most people need to work to have a purpose in life, it is also a social outlet.
You have 35 years to sort your life out,
if you haven't got it sorted by 50 years old you aint never going to get it right.



Many people are brainwashed by the age of 50 and just keep on working
without even knowing why.
You shouldn't need to work to have a purpose in life.
I knew a guy who owned 6 or 7 houses and was still working at the age of 70 -
what the hell for?
Was he just a robot?



I retired at 60 because I had things I want to do but I have mates that could retire but prefer to work. Its no good retiring if you are an active person with nothing to do.
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Reply #13 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 12:18pm
 
Mother nature kills off the old once they serve no purpose to the pack/herd/village.

Interestingly older women can serve a purpose in looking after grandchildren. Humans . Killer whales and elephants keep females around after menopause to raise and teach grandchildren
Other species don't.

Voluntary assisted dying will become huge in coming decades.

There  are not the workers or the cash to care for the lingering frail elderly.

Do everything you can to maintain your strength and vigor and your family relationships

Governments cannot and will not be able to look after millions of disabled sick 80 yo"s

Personal responsibility  will be the order of the day
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Reply #14 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 1:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 25th, 2025 at 12:18pm:
Mother nature kills off the old once they serve no purpose to the pack/herd/village.

Interestingly older women can serve a purpose in looking after grandchildren. Humans . Killer whales and elephants keep females around after menopause to raise and teach grandchildren

Other species don't.

Voluntary assisted dying will become huge in coming decades.

There  are not the workers or the cash to care for the lingering frail elderly.

Do everything you can to maintain your strength and vigor and your family relationships

Governments cannot and will not be able to look after millions of disabled sick 80 yo"s

Personal responsibility  will be the order of the day


Only a few decades ago thats what we used to do - but corrupt government’S … have sold us out…  have stolen 10s of thousands of dollars off us through inflation…

INFLATION IS THEFT…

We used to be able to have ONE bread winner….

You could have a dozen kids, buy a house and car and live ok…

Not now…

Now you need both man and wife working and you stilll struggle…
Its deliberate
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