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Reply #60 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:30pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 9:27am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?




Not by bending over for Putin and giving him everything he wants plus the opportunity to come back for the rest later and moving on the other invasions unopposed. Na that isn't a solution unless he got you elected in 2016.
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Reply #62 - Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:55pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 2:44pm:
What measures should they take to stop a subsequent Russian invasion


The US defense budget for fiscal year 2024 is $883.7 billion.
883,700,000,000 for 1 year.  My advice is to go another $2 million and Putin is history.
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Reply #63 - Feb 25th, 2025 at 1:05pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?


Please show us a post where I have been supportive of Vlad.  Roll Eyes  Several other military forums I am on have shown many US veterans, most of them Trump supporters, are angry at his Ukraine policy.  Trump has failed to read the room here. 
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Reply #64 - Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:39pm
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2025 at 4:33am:
No, it is universally accepted that the best person to do a deal for Ukraine is it's leader.

I just gave you an idea what to do. Starmer and Macron have both put Ukraine's NATO membership on the table, as has our own Sir Tony Abbott.

Thank heavens the grown ups are back in charge, eh? 

Your problem is you're so farmed you can't comprehend anything your DL hasn't said. You're so far gone you literally no speaka da English.

Yes, Master...

Good idea.
Let Ukraine join NATO and let the US leave NATO.

There is no Soviet any more and the Euros do not need the US to manage Europe or to tell them what to do. They are grown up now, the euros, they do not need the US.


Europe needs Ukraine much more than it needs the dumcunt yankish  US, after all.  Shocked

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Reply #65 - Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:40pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 9:27am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?




Not by bending over for Putin and giving him everything he wants plus the opportunity to come back for the rest later and moving on the other invasions unopposed. Na that isn't a solution unless he got you elected in 2016.

How, is the question, shitfer brains, not how not.
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Reply #66 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 1:07am
 
Belgarion wrote on Feb 25th, 2025 at 1:05pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?


Please show us a post where I have been supportive of Vlad.  Roll Eyes  Several other military forums I am on have shown many US veterans, most of them Trump supporters, are angry at his Ukraine policy.  Trump has failed to read the room here. 



Come come, Belgarion. If you have not been a Vlad man, I humbly apologize.

If you have, I restate my case to those who are farmed.

Stop taking your meds, gang, and come back in. We're going to need all our friends to stop Vlad and his White House puppets.

We are the world, no?
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Reply #67 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 1:10am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2025 at 4:33am:
Europe needs Ukraine much more than it needs the dumcunt[/highlight] yankish  US, after all.  Shocked



Oh, I don't know, dear boy. They'll always have you n'all.

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Reply #68 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 1:14am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:40pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 9:27am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?




Not by bending over for Putin and giving him everything he wants plus the opportunity to come back for the rest later and moving on the other invasions unopposed. Na that isn't a solution unless he got you elected in 2016.

How, is the question, shitfer brains, not how not.


Yes, but your DL's going with the how-not option, so it's all good.

Sometimes a question is just a question, no?
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Reply #69 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 11:01am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:39pm:
Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2025 at 4:33am:
No, it is universally accepted that the best person to do a deal for Ukraine is it's leader.

I just gave you an idea what to do. Starmer and Macron have both put Ukraine's NATO membership on the table, as has our own Sir Tony Abbott.

Thank heavens the grown ups are back in charge, eh? 

Your problem is you're so farmed you can't comprehend anything your DL hasn't said. You're so far gone you literally no speaka da English.

Yes, Master...

Good idea.
Let Ukraine join NATO and let the US leave NATO.

There is no Soviet any more and the Euros do not need the US to manage Europe or to tell them what to do. They are grown up now, the euros, they do not need the US.


Europe needs Ukraine much more than it needs the dumcunt yankish  US, after all.  Shocked






The reality is Russia should not have invaded, but they did.  Following the invasion, the EU should have stopped buying Russian goods and energy completely, but they didn't, and this continues even today.

In the last three years someone should have made a serious attempt to broker peace, but no-one did.  When China and North Korea joined in allegiance with Russia, the US and EU should have punished with massive sanctions, but they didn't.

But I get it - nuffin' for three years until now when it's all Trump's fault.

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Reply #70 - Feb 28th, 2025 at 10:34pm
 
Your DL's first move was to blame Zalensky, you poor old thing. His next move was to tell Ukraine to give him half a tril worth of rare earth minerals.  His third move was to meet with Russia to overturn all sanctions.

His next move will be to withdraw military aid and create more death, so yes, dear boy, it is indeed all Trump's fault.

Not only has he sided with Vlad, a crime you want China and North Korea sanctioned for, he's turned against out friend Ukraine.

We'd advise you to wake up and smell the coffee, but alas, you've already passed.

RIP, old boy.
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Reply #71 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 10:31am
 
Karnal wrote on Feb 28th, 2025 at 1:14am:
Frank wrote on Feb 27th, 2025 at 9:40pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 8:30pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 9:27am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 24th, 2025 at 4:03am:
Belgarion wrote on Feb 23rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:
I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks.  How is that going for him right now?


And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?




Not by bending over for Putin and giving him everything he wants plus the opportunity to come back for the rest later and moving on the other invasions unopposed. Na that isn't a solution unless he got you elected in 2016.

How, is the question, shitfer brains, not how not.


Yes, but your DL's going with the how-not option, so it's all good.

Sometimes a question is just a question, no?

Indeed.

Soooooo..... How would YOU end this war between the two largest and most corrupt European countries that are culturally and historically barely distinguishable?

Include Ukraine in NATO, including its openly proRussian Dombass and Crimea. Sounds as daft as most of your other ideas.
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Reply #72 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 10:55am
 
Russia now controls the White House, plain and simple. Any hope of a victorious or even protected Ukraine is gone.

Ukraine was the victim of Russian aggression, invasion, and conquest, again. If you believe Russia will stop here, especially now that it has its proxy in the Oval Office, then you're a complicit fool blinded by MAGA loyalty, aka, TDS.

This war was never just about Ukraine. It was about halting Russia’s expansion into Europe, deterring authoritarian land grabs from Moscow to Beijing,, upholding democratic principles and ensuring treaties are worth more than the paper they're printing on.

Most importantly, it was about preserving the long-term prospects of denuclearisation.

Now, it's about something even worse: a failed dealmaker desperately trying to save face, torn between his empty promises to the American people and his need to appease his Russian handlers. Meanwhile, his supporters cheer on America’s retreat from global leadership, leaving allies to fend for themselves.

Trump blames Ukraine for "flirting with WW3," yet it is he who is making nuclear escalation more likely.

But we'd better not call Putin names because it would hurt negotiations?

Wtf...

That's some dear leader poo right there...
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Reply #73 - Mar 1st, 2025 at 2:44pm
 
Do you remember all those assurances from early 2022? Putin is isolated!! The world is united against him!! Three years on, he’s so isolated they can barely squeeze all the global leaders onto the stage of the BRICS Russia summit. “The world” is “united” only if you mean America and its NATO vassal states. Everyone else wants no part of this. Putin is such a global pariah that Turkey, which is supposed to be one of those NATO “allies”, has applied for BRICS membership. They’re building the post-dollar world—the post-American world, the post-Western world—before our eyes, and we’re still yakking about sea levels in the Maldives in the twenty-second century and the need to install tampon dispensers in the boys’ bathroom.
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In the past, change was Western: the Habsburgs rose and then fell; Spain was up, and it became the centre of power; it fell, and the English rose; the First World War finished off the monarchies; the British were replaced by the Americans as world leaders; then the Russo-American Cold War was won by the Americans.

But all these developments remained within our Western logic. This is not the case now, however, and this is what we must face up to; because the Western world is not challenged from within the Western world, and so the logic of change has been disrupted. What I am talking about, and what we are facing, is actually a global system change. And this is a process that is coming from Asia. To put it succinctly and primitively, for the next many decades—or perhaps centuries, because the previous world system was in place for five hundred years—the dominant centre of the world will be in Asia…



Half the public, give or take, seems to get that democratic governance in the Western world has degenerated into a racket. Every once in a while, the populist spasms in minor Continental countries erupt at the heart of the West, as they did in 2016 with Brexit and Trump. But both were subverted, very easily, by the Permanent State, at pains to emphasise as always that no serious course correction can be permitted.

Now Trump has a second shot. Can he do what needs to be done? In the time that remains—to him and to our civilisational inheritance?

We changed too much too fast—welfare, immigration, protracted adolescence, the bepenised woman—and, as real change overwhelms us, we will still wonder why everything’s changed. The forces around us are real, and increasingly we are not.

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Reply #74 - Mar 2nd, 2025 at 1:35pm
 
Both are called Vladimir, Zelinski and Putin.

Can't be a coincidence... Tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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