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Reply #45 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

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Reply #46 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:58pm

Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:43pm:

No Ukrainian seriously believes that Kiev can govern the east and the south anyway.

'In a summit in Moscow in 2008, Donetsk was recognised as the best city in the Commonwealth of Independent States for its implemented development strategies; in 2012 and 2013 Donetsk was recognised as the best place for business in Ukraine.'
The Russian city of Kiev noted problems in governing due to artillery, drones, mortars, hypersonics, landmines, cannon fodder, tanks, bombs, nuclear threats, MANPADS and pistols. This was blamed on the Jews of Zelenskyy.

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ProudKangaroo Gold Member Offline The Sandstorm is coming 🎵Doo doo doo doo🎵 Posts: 21699 Meeanjin (Brisbane)	Re: Calling Putin names Reply #47 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:38pm Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:43pm: Ultimately Ukraine will be partitioned with the east and the south ceded to Russia and that won't come as a shock to Ukrainians. No Ukrainian seriously believes that Kiev can govern the east and the south anyway. That sounds very Pro-Russian to me. And Putin's next invasion?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Armidale Gender:	Re: Calling Putin names Reply #48 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:49pm Putin's economy is in ruins and Trump may order a replacement. Singapore is likely to take over the government of Russia.
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Reply #49 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:51pm

Belgarion wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

I am sympathetic but suggest that Ukranians and Russians are indistingushab.
This is a war between people who are identical except in their own unfathomable minds.

A hundred years ago Russia was prepared to go to war for the Serbs on account of some weirdo Slavic brotherhood b.s..

These are strange people. Both countries are as corrupt as buggery. They are not even two countries. Russia emerged from the Kiev Rus, ffs.

It's a pity they can't both lose. They were brothers when it came to subjugating Eastern Euro p e and the Ukranians were the biggest pro-fascists - after some Yugoslavs- during WWII.

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Reply #50 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:38pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Ultimately Ukraine will be partitioned with the east and the south ceded to Russia and that won't come as a shock to Ukrainians. No Ukrainian seriously believes that Kiev can govern the east and the south anyway.

That sounds very Pro-Russian to me.

And Putin's next invasion?

Why?

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Reply #51 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 3:09am

Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Ultimately Ukraine will be partitioned with the east and the south ceded to Russia and that won't come as a shock to Ukrainians. No Ukrainian seriously believes that Kiev can govern the east and the south anyway.

You can't even spot Ukraine on a map, Leroy, so we can forget North and South.

Your DL's already failed his negotiating. He's ceded to Vlad, so it's over to Europe and the UK now.

Imagine that, Ukraine's number one security guarantor - out. Ukraine remains in the fight. And your DL's off to the Palm Beach International for 18 holes.

Pity JD never learned to play, no? In four year's time, Ukraine will still be at war, and your DL?

In Shady Pines, with Don Junior polling miserably in the Primaries.

Colonialism ended far too sooooon, no?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Armidale Gender:	Re: Calling Putin names Reply #52 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 3:53am Frank wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:51pm: This is a war between people who are identical except in their own unfathomable minds. Race rules OK. The Anglo Saxon Germans are masters of west Europe. Dagoes are south Europe. Slavs hold the east. Purity of breeding is displayed at the Olympic war games.
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Reply #53 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 4:03am

Belgarion wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Armidale Gender:	Re: Calling Putin names Reply #54 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 4:29am Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 3:09am: Your DL's already failed his negotiating. The deal is gradually emerging. Putin owns the population and Donald the Great gets the Ukraine minerals. Division worked for Adolf and Joe in Poland. Greenland is different as it's in the American Ocean.
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Reply #55 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 7:35am

Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 9:15pm:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 8:38pm:

Leroy wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 4:43pm:

Ultimately Ukraine will be partitioned with the east and the south ceded to Russia and that won't come as a shock to Ukrainians. No Ukrainian seriously believes that Kiev can govern the east and the south anyway.

That sounds very Pro-Russian to me.

And Putin's next invasion?

Why?

Because he's the intruding the garage you've ignored.

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Reply #56 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 9:27am

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 4:03am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?

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Reply #57 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 1:34pm

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 9:27am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 4:03am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?

Herro?! Herro..?!

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ProudKangaroo

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Reply #58 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 2:44pm

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 1:34pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 9:27am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 24^th, 2025 at 4:03am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 6:39pm:

I have been generally supportive of some of Trumps policies, even though I don't think much of the man himself. However his selling out of Ukraine to the war criminal Putin is a disgusting betrayal of a people who have against all odds been holding back an enemy who thought his blitzkreig would done and dusted in a couple of weeks. How is that going for him right now?

And this - from Vlad's biggest supporter here, only three short years ago.

Thanks, Belgarion. We'd suggest others here take your lead, but no.

We know. They're way too farmed for that.

Ever get the feeling?

How would YOU end this war?

Herro?! Herro..?!

How about this then, if your plan is to help Ukraine lose the war and concede more land to Russia, the "pro-Russian" stance, what measures would you suggest be put in place to stop Russia from invading again, again, since you seem to be so against the Ukrainian military trying to defend its own sovereignty.

Should they look to the UN, NATO or Europe for support? Should they create a DMZ similar to Korea?

What measures should they take to stop a subsequent Russian invasion where people like you will blame them and tell them to give up their land stolen to Russia?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61121 Here Gender:	Re: Calling Putin names Reply #59 - Feb 24^th, 2025 at 8:27pm Trump is a paying member of team Putin. There is no deal, Trump wants to give Ukraine to Putin. There is no negotiations between Putin and Trump, Nothing valid can be done without Ukraine being involved. Trump is a nutter, he belongs in a padded room not negotiations.
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