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Reply #30 - Feb 21^st, 2025 at 3:26pm

‘No chance of life’: Parents demand answers after two-year-old’s tragic death at Northern Beaches Hospital

I am totally in shock at the appalling "treatment" this little 2yo toddler received because it actually amounted to NO TREATMENT! They didn't monitor him at all and his heart rate was 197!!!

The triage nurse was an incompetent idiot and didn't assess him properly. He should have been correctly assessed as a category 2 and a rapid response! The totally useless trainee doctor didn't assess him properly either.

This mother loudly advocated for her dying child whilst hospital staff refused to give him life saving treatment like an IV drip even though he had lost so much fluid, he was floppy and passing in and out of consciousness!

I am in total shock at the incompetence of these health "professionals" but I'm not surprised. And they're still employed by NSW Health as though nothing had happened.

This is the care you will get when overseas companies like Healthscope take over our hospitals. It's all about profits. Northern Beaches is a private/public hospital but OMG you wouldn't want to be admitted as public patient!

https://7news.com.au/news/grief-stricken-parents-demand-urgent-review-after-two-...

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1993 Gender:	Re: Are Australian Hospitals first world class? Reply #31 - Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 1:26pm First world wages for providing third world care. https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/queensland/sorry-wrong-patient-major-q... “ Dozens of Queensland patients have been seriously hurt or died as a result of errors in hospitals in recent years.”
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52079 Gender:	Re: Are Australian Hospitals first world class? Reply #32 - Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 2:11pm Public Health: stop whinging - it's Free! Private Health: Start whinging - they're ripping you all off!
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Reply #33 - Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 5:32pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2025 at 2:11pm:

Public Health: stop whinging - it's Free!

Private Health: Start whinging - they're ripping you all off!

It's the large sums of money that the surgeons and others charge that pumps up the bills.

See a surgeon for less than 5 minutes - bill $240.

Get an Angiogram - 20 minute job - $5,500.

I looked at the hospital carpark outside an A&E in a large private hospital.
The doctors/surgeons area was full of the most expensive luxury cars:
Mercedes, BMW, Lambos, Ferrari, Porsche etc.
There were no normal family cars there at all.

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tickleandrose Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4151 Gender:	Re: Are Australian Hospitals first world class? Reply #34 - Feb 23^rd, 2025 at 10:45am Our health system is world class. Comparing to US, we spent far less per person, we have universal health care, and we do better than US in many health outcome measures.
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Reply #35 - Feb 25^th, 2025 at 11:07am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/latrobe-regional-hospital-baby-deaths-car...

First class pay- third world care -

“ One of Victoria’s biggest regional hospitals has reported nine sentinel events in five years — a tally of patients, including infants, who have died or experienced serious harm due to adverse care. Staff members say those numbers are the tip of the iceberg.”

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“Two incomes of $120-150k a year is the minimum required to live in Australia. You need to find a career that can get you to that in the future, or you’re cooked,”

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Reply #36 - Feb 25^th, 2025 at 12:52pm

aquascoot wrote on Feb 15^th, 2025 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 13^th, 2025 at 8:11am:

Daves2017 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2025 at 10:12pm:

A first world salary for third world outcomes?

Your paying for it!

try going to a hospital in the third world then you'll see just how stupid you sound

maybe not third world but several of my missus work colleagues have gone to thailand or the phillipines and had cosmetic surgery which was very successful and for about 10 % of the cost in australia .

has no bearing on whether our hospitals are first class again ....

and your wife needs better friends Roll Eyes

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Reply #37 - Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:19pm

My son has been in the burns unit for the past couple of weeks with 2nd degree burns to 10% of his body. From the ambulance to the two hospitals we've been at, we have received absolutely top shelf treatment at every statge.

I cannot sing all of their praises highly enough.

When i think of how such accidents would be handled in other countries, especially considering the extreme pain my kid was in, i just feel gutted for those people. Pain relief was the first thing the ambos addressed. My boy went from screaming to tripping balls in seconds. I've never felt more relief.

And no expense has been spared on his treatment and recovery. Furthermore his spirits have been kept up by conscientious and truly caring staff.

This little family thinks we have a great deal to be thankful for.

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Reply #38 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 6:27am

mothra wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

My son has been in the burns unit for the past couple of weeks with 2nd degree burns to 10% of his body. From the ambulance to the two hospitals we've been at, we have received absolutely top shelf treatment at every statge.

I cannot sing all of their praises highly enough.

When i think of how such accidents would be handled in other countries, especially considering the extreme pain my kid was in, i just feel gutted for those people. Pain relief was the first thing the ambos addressed. My boy went from screaming to tripping balls in seconds. I've never felt more relief.

And no expense has been spared on his treatment and recovery. Furthermore his spirits have been kept up by conscientious and truly caring staff.

This little family thinks we have a great deal to be thankful for.

Sorry to hear about your son Mothra. It must be hell for you. May he have a fast and full recovery

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Reply #39 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 6:36am

**holding my tongue over 'lashings of hot tongue'** AIAB?

Some hospitals are good - others not so good - some are better with some things - some with different things. Treatment by ambos is pretty good these days... good to know your local hospital has a good burns unit and staff in it.

Hope the boy is all good...

Story:- The last couple of weeks have been hell with the Eld Gel suffering blood loss somewhere as yet undefined, and need for me to rush her to hospital (plus to doctors every day) where she got three pints of red cells and two iron infusions. Choice of three hospitals within driving range (doc told me to get her on the road instantly), and we chose the Catholic one - good choice with everything clean and neat and the staff terrific. Food was better than public, too!

Last time it was me in an ambulance - public hospital with dirty walls and inadequate staff ... maybe not their fault but jeez... I woke up from an operation thinking I was in the morgue - freezing cold and no covers and in a public ward with people complaining around me about it... just dumped there by an indifferent wardsperson. After that I didn't surface again for two days.

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Reply #40 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 5:30pm

“ A rapid response program enabling families to speak up about a loved one’s treatment will be bolstered and renamed “Joe’s rule” after an investigation into the tragic death of a two-year-old boy at a Sydney hospital.

Elouise and Danny Massa met Premier Chris Minns on Wednesday after speaking out last week about the death of their son Joe at Northern Beaches Hospital in September.”

“ Smh
Another victim of the first world pay but 3rd world care Australian hospitals provide.

Tip of the iceberg stuff.

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“Two incomes of $120-150k a year is the minimum required to live in Australia. You need to find a career that can get you to that in the future, or you’re cooked,”

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Reply #41 - Feb 26^th, 2025 at 9:13pm

mothra wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

My son has been in the burns unit for the past couple of weeks with 2nd degree burns to 10% of his body. From the ambulance to the two hospitals we've been at, we have received absolutely top shelf treatment at every statge.

I cannot sing all of their praises highly enough.

When i think of how such accidents would be handled in other countries, especially considering the extreme pain my kid was in, i just feel gutted for those people. Pain relief was the first thing the ambos addressed. My boy went from screaming to tripping balls in seconds. I've never felt more relief.

And no expense has been spared on his treatment and recovery. Furthermore his spirits have been kept up by conscientious and truly caring staff.

This little family thinks we have a great deal to be thankful for.

What a difficult time. I wish you and your family only the best.

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“Two incomes of $120-150k a year is the minimum required to live in Australia. You need to find a career that can get you to that in the future, or you’re cooked,”

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Reply #42 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 1:03pm

mothra wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

My son has been in the burns unit for the past couple of weeks with 2nd degree burns to 10% of his body. From the ambulance to the two hospitals we've been at, we have received absolutely top shelf treatment at every statge.

I cannot sing all of their praises highly enough.

When i think of how such accidents would be handled in other countries, especially considering the extreme pain my kid was in, i just feel gutted for those people. Pain relief was the first thing the ambos addressed. My boy went from screaming to tripping balls in seconds. I've never felt more relief.

And no expense has been spared on his treatment and recovery. Furthermore his spirits have been kept up by conscientious and truly caring staff.

This little family thinks we have a great deal to be thankful for.

Sorry to hear your son has had such an accident with burns.

One of the most painful experiences.

I hope he has a speedy & non complicated recovery.

Yes our hospitals & staff generally do their best - but often resources & policy procedures delay decision making or people are spread to thin on the ground.

Although the staff were great but because of stretched resources local hospital took 12 hours to move me from one hospital to another(26mins & 31 klm apart) then another 12 hours to get me on a plane to Brisbane with kidney stones and I only have one kidney.

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Reply #43 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 5:02pm

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/
After the allegations and chargers laid at Bankstown hospital this is NSW health solution-a new five word slogan “ we are here for you “.

ALL the executives and ministry worked extremely hard to achieve…a five word slogan.

The very real fact is the upper level of management is completely broken.

They spend more time sending each other emails than actually doing anything to support the health services they are paid big $$$ to support!

No follow up on Bankstown, pretend it didn’t happen, continue the “experiment “ but don’t tell anyone.

Get the new message out there “ we are here for you unless your a Jew, or black or suffering a mental illness or old , etc , etc”

Anyone above middle management ( and there are tens of thousands) are basically employed on six figures to approve pr slogans if that the focus groups choose.

No wonder the system is in complete free fall .
A fish rots from the head down!

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“Two incomes of $120-150k a year is the minimum required to live in Australia. You need to find a career that can get you to that in the future, or you’re cooked,”

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Reply #44 - Feb 27^th, 2025 at 6:19pm

mothra wrote on Feb 25^th, 2025 at 10:19pm:

My son has been in the burns unit for the past couple of weeks with 2nd degree burns to 10% of his body. From the ambulance to the two hospitals we've been at, we have received absolutely top shelf treatment at every statge.

I cannot sing all of their praises highly enough.

When i think of how such accidents would be handled in other countries, especially considering the extreme pain my kid was in, i just feel gutted for those people. Pain relief was the first thing the ambos addressed. My boy went from screaming to tripping balls in seconds. I've never felt more relief.

And no expense has been spared on his treatment and recovery. Furthermore his spirits have been kept up by conscientious and truly caring staff.

This little family thinks we have a great deal to be thankful for.

I only just saw this.

I hope he's recovering well.

Genuine thoughts & prayers.

Our public hospitals do a wonderful job - we don't know how lucky we are.

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