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Reply #15 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 9:53pm
 
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Reply #16 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:37pm
 
Mass uncontrolled immigration has ruined our country:


Just buy a house, Pull yourself up by your bootstraps,  Stop wasting money on designer clothes and lattes. The people dishing out this advice are the same ones who got to play the property game on easy mode. They bought homes when they were ultra cheap than and rode a wave of government-backed policies that turned their modest investments into golden tickets.
And now? They look down from their ivory towers—built on decades of speculative growth—and wag their fingers at people without a home and call them ‘lazy’ & ‘entitled’. The thing is, they don’t have a clue what it’s like to save in an economy where every dollar is worth less by the day, where rent eats up half your paycheck, and where house prices have skyrocketed to the point that even a shoebox in the suburbs feels like a pipe dream.


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Reply #17 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:50pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 9:04pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 8:48pm:
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Multiculturalism has failed Australia


We seem to have people from multiple cultures getting along in all the workplaces I have been in over the last 50 years and not just workplaces, sports, clubs anywhere really.

Maybe it snuck up on you when you were not watching.


You evidently have not read or understood the first few posts on his thread.
No surprise.



I think that is the other way around, you think that 50 plus years of a stable mixing of cultures is destroyed by a couple of incidents that are about something different.

How many of us don't have friends who's original heritage is from any of 10 or 15 other countries. How many of us are not just as comfortable eating food that is Australian based - Italian, greek, Asian, Lebanese, english, french etc ? Not a second thought. You can have a beer with 5 guys who all have a family from a different country and you don't even notice.

Sorry but Multi culture in Australia is a done deal. It's over and done. The Australian guy I play golf withs father was German, the guy I sit next to on the train speaks Spanish, My Daughters swim coach was Polish. I worked with a Video machine tech for 10 years before I realised that the reason he didn't drink was because he was Muslim. They are all Australian, all nice people. They are us.
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Reply #18 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:37pm:
Mass uncontrolled immigration has ruined our country:


Just buy a house, Pull yourself up by your bootstraps,  Stop wasting money on designer clothes and lattes. The people dishing out this advice are the same ones who got to play the property game on easy mode. They bought homes when they were ultra cheap than and rode a wave of government-backed policies that turned their modest investments into golden tickets.
And now? They look down from their ivory towers—built on decades of speculative growth—and wag their fingers at people without a home and call them ‘lazy’ & ‘entitled’. The thing is, they don’t have a clue what it’s like to save in an economy where every dollar is worth less by the day, where rent eats up half your paycheck, and where house prices have skyrocketed to the point that even a shoebox in the suburbs feels like a pipe dream.




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You know that this was originally a rich peoples joke? It is physically not possible to do this. The joke is try all you like your not going to make it. They are laughing at you.
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Reply #19 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 11:09pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:55pm:
You know that this was originally a rich peoples joke?
It is physically not possible to do this.
The joke is try all you like your not going to make it. They are laughing at you.



I am so glad I own my own place.

I feel so sorry for the young people of today.
Their country was ruined by incompetent politicians.
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Reply #20 - Jan 26th, 2025 at 11:41pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 11:09pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 26th, 2025 at 10:55pm:
You know that this was originally a rich peoples joke?
It is physically not possible to do this.
The joke is try all you like your not going to make it. They are laughing at you.



I am so glad I own my own place.

I feel so sorry for the young people of today.
Their country was ruined by incompetent politicians.


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Their country was ruined by incompetent politicians.


Incompetent or greedy ? I don't think selling out to money was an accident.
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Reply #21 - Jan 27th, 2025 at 1:36pm
 
A 63-year-old man has been charged for allegedly taking lewd photos without consent at Bronte Beach on Sunday.

About 3.40pm on Australia Day, Kamal Arora was arrested at the scene following reports of inappropriate behaviour.

Police took Mr Arora to Waverly Police Station and charged him with three counts of intentionally record intimate image without consent.


He was also charged with three counts of behave in offensive manner in/near public place/school.

He was refused bail and is set to appear before Parramatta Local Court on Monday.



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Reply #22 - Aug 14th, 2025 at 7:04pm
 
The deracinated romantics who set the terms of much of the debate are enthralled with diversity. They consider it a virtue to declare oneself a citizen of the world. The influx of the supposed dispossessed amounts to the cleansing of the colonial soul, the overturning of tyranny and the revenge of the oppressed.

In practical terms, however, the clash of languages, cultures and peoples strains the social fabric. Shared values once taken for granted, and therefore rarely articulated, are contested. A multicultural nation is by definition one which lacks a shared historical core.

Governments’ attempts to strengthen the social fabric have only made matters worse. The state-funded multicultural industry encourages the formation of ethnic fiefdoms with vested interests in favour of sectarianism. Human rights bodies harvest grievances and reinforce the state of victimhood. Institutional bias quickly develops; the emphasis is on difference rather than the ties that bind.
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Reply #23 - Aug 23rd, 2025 at 9:18pm
 
Australia’s multiculturalism took off in 1788, under Governor Phillip.
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Reply #24 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:57am
 
The tragedy of multiculturalism
This policy is not our strength

Augusto Zimmermann

‘Diversity is strength; tolerance is natural,’ says the Prime Minister of Australia on his official website.

This may be a lovely statement, but it is not supported by historical evidence. To the contrary, history clearly teaches us that too much ‘diversity’ is a leading cause of social conflict and national fragmentation.

In his seminal On Democracy (Yale University Press, 1998), Robert Dahl, emeritus professor of political science at Yale University, explains how too much ‘diversity’ may lead to serious ‘cultural conflicts’:

Cultural conflicts can erupt into the political arena, and typically they do: over religion, language, and dress codes in schools, for example; or discriminatory practices by one group against another; or whether the government should support religion or religious institutions, and if so, which ones and in what ways; or practices by one group that another finds deeply offensive and wishes to prohibit … issues like these pose a special problem for democracy. Adherents of a particular culture often view their political demands as matters of principle, deep religious or quasi-religious conviction, cultural preservation, or group survival. As a consequence, they consider their demands too crucial to allow for compromise.

David Betz is a long-standing professor of ‘War in the Modern World’ in the Department of War Studies at King’s College London. He came to public attention a few months ago when he published a two-part academic paper titled The Civil War Comes to the West. In these two academic papers, he contends that there is a significant chance of a civil war breaking out in most Western European countries, where mass immigration and multiculturalism risk civil unrest verging on civil war.

Multiculturalism has never been just a fair and impartial understanding of different cultures. Samuel Huntington, the late Harvard political scientist, once defined multiculturalism essentially in terms of an ‘anti-Western ideology opposed to Eurocentric concepts of democratic principles, culture, and identity’. He contends that, above all, multiculturalism is ‘anti-Western and anti-Christian’. Indeed, according to the late British historian, Paul Johnson:

Multiculturalism has been, and will be, exploited by a few social engineers to dismember the elements of existing societies, especially those of the West with their deep Christian underpinnings, and reconstruct them according to new blueprints – to provide legal accommodation, for example, to practices such as polygamy.

As a state-sponsored policy, writes British political commentator Douglas Murray, multiculturalism is basically ‘the idea of the state encouraging people to live parallel lives in the same country and particularly in living under customs and laws that stand in opposition to those of the country they are living in’. He then informs us that there is a ‘growing public concern about such parallel societies growing across Europe. The sharpest cause of this growth’, according to him, ‘is the increasing tally of terrorist attacks and thwarted terrorist attacks involving people brought up in Europe’.

Murray’s opinion was fully endorsed by the late British political philosopher, Roger Scruton. He contended that, due to state-sponsored multicultural policies, ‘If people come from immigrant backgrounds that preserve the memory of a religious law, they will often revert to a religious experience of membership and define themselves in opposition to the territorial jurisdiction by which they are ostensibly governed.’

This helps understand the findings of a study commissioned by Policy Exchange, whereby it has been found that four out of ten young British Muslims have a desire to live under Sharia (Islamic) Law. In answer to the question, ‘Do you personally have any sympathy with the feelings and motives of those who carried out terrorist attacks?’ 24 per cent of them answered in the affirmative, with 13 per cent expressing ‘a lot’ of sympathy to terrorists.

According to Dr Munira Mirza, the scholar who conducted this survey:

The emergence of a strong Muslim identity in Britain is, in part, a result of multicultural policies implemented since the 1980s which have emphasised difference at the expense of shared national identity and divided people along ethnic, religious and cultural lines.

Professor Betz’s articles are particularly relevant because they explain how the acceptance of identity politics is overtly post-national and ultimately socially divisive. Accordingly, identity politics is defined by him as politics in which people with religious, ethnic, social, or cultural identities tend to promote their own interests with no regard to the interests of any other national group. It is this kind of socially fragmented environment that makes civil strife not only likely, but practically inevitable, in his opinion.

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Reply #25 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 10:58am
 
In this sense, it is perfectly possible to argue that many Western nations, especially in Western Europe, can no longer be described as possessing any meaningful sense of common identity and national heritage. All that these European nations now possess are incohesive political entities formed by competing tribes based on a sense of identity of their own, living largely in virtually segregated communities and competing for social resources in an increasingly excessive and violent way.

These Western European nations have, therefore, entered a period of ‘cultural suicide’. Professor Betz thus explains how some governments in Western Europe have lost their legitimacy due to such ‘cultural suicide’, and, consequently, their ability to peacefully manage a society that is terminally fractured by ethnic identity politics.

And since around 75 per cent of all post-Cold War civil conflicts have been fought by ethnic factions, this leads Betz to soberly predict that civil conflict, quite possibly followed by civil war, will be the ‘unexceptional’ outcome. And so, dear Prime Minister, contrary to what you appear to believe, diversity is not necessarily our strength and tolerance is not so natural, and quite the contrary.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2025/10/the-tragedy-of-multiculturalism/
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Reply #26 - Oct 27th, 2025 at 7:07pm
 

"Cultural suicide" is definitely what is happening.  It's beyond rhyme or reason.  I just do not know my country any more.  I do not recognise it because it's changed irrevocably.  The lunatics are now in charge of the asylum. 

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Reply #27 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 10:28am
 
Aquarius wrote on Oct 27th, 2025 at 7:07pm:
"Cultural suicide" is definitely what is happening.  It's beyond rhyme or reason.  I just do not know my country any more.  I do not recognise it because it's changed irrevocably.  The lunatics are now in charge of the asylum. 




According to Betz, the combination of large numbers of immigrants and the doctrine of multiculturalism have fuelled the conviction that it is “racist” to restrict immigration or “impose” British culture on newcomers. The combination of large numbers of immigrants and the ideology of multiculturalism has thus transformed Britain from a homogeneous society to a society that no longer recognises its own face in the mirror.[6]

This development is reminiscent of an influential article, The Menace of Multi-culturalism, published in 1980, by Bond University’s Professor Lauchlan Chipman who, in an Australian context, described multiculturalism as a doctrine that prescriptively seeks to impose rules of behaviour on the native population. He argued that “hard” multiculturalism:

… is not about folk dancing, interesting food, and free-flowing wine. Nor is it about experiments in living and the open-minded and sensitive quest for improved or alternative life-styles. … Rather, it is about the preservation of ‘ethnic integrity’, the reinforcement and imposition on the new-born of sets of traditions, beliefs, and values which include, as well as those which are noble and enlightened, some which are inhuman, grotesquely ignorant, racist, sexist and bigoted.
https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/society/the-uks-inevitable-civil-war/#_ftn...[/url]

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Reply #28 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 3:13pm
 
It is a shame that he and you don't know or understand "Multiculturism", Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Oct 28th, 2025 at 4:45pm
 
Over the last many places of employment I have been in there have peen people from all sorts of ethinc backgrounds and yet they have virtually all been Australian all fully accepted by everyone else in the workplace and socially. We virtually all currently have a multi cultural diet by preference. Our friends are culturally varied  by background but consider themselves to be Australian.

Very far from a failure.

Who doesn't not only like an Italian meal or Chineese, greek, Lebanese South American,Indian, Japaneese etc but can also cook their own version of these foods.

My home diet for instance includes. chineese foods like fried rice - sweet and sour, chineese soups, stir fries, Italian like spagetti bol / marinara, chicken parmigana, raviole - Pizza - veal scolopine and on. From South America Chirizo - Tacos - Empanadas etc, Indian - Tandori - Naan bread - Butter Chicken etc.

As a child in Australia not one of these were part of an Australian diet.
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