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Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns
Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:25am

Well the young medical student recently rescued after two weeks lost in the Snowy mountains certainly has a great story to tell/ sell?

None of it is believable. In fact I believe he actually hid from his rescuer’s.

It’s needs a complete police investigation and if his story is untrue he needs to be charged.
He might also consider a payment plan for the millions of dollars his wasted!

The media outlets currently circling him to cut a deal might want to take a step back, or be associated with “ fake” news.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15127 Gender:	Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns Reply #1 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:37am What makes you think it was fake?
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Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns
Reply #2 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

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Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns
Reply #3 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:58am

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:25am:

Well the young medical student recently rescued after two weeks lost in the Snowy mountains certainly has a great story to tell/ sell?

None of it is believable. In fact I believe he actually hid from his rescuer’s.

It’s needs a complete police investigation and if his story is untrue he needs to be charged.
He might also consider a payment plan for the millions of dollars his wasted!

The media outlets currently circling him to cut a deal might want to take a step back, or be associated with “ fake” news.

the only problem would be the investigation would uncover loopholes and the Med student will probably get compensation because some unidentified volunteer was overheard saying "Asian". So you now add the cost of the investigation and compensation and legal fees. 7mil should cover it with a 2mil contingency.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2126 Gender:	Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns Reply #4 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:07pm Leroy, I’m the old jaded pessimistic around here. It’s just beyond possible given the search that he was undetected. They don’t walk around and scream his name into bushes anymore. His actively avoided being found and had a hidden stash of both food and clothing, most likely camouflage clothing.
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Reply #5 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:41pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87675 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns Reply #6 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:46pm Well - all of us 'racists' here breathed a sigh of relief that he was found - but it does seem suspicious. It's like he fairly arrowed out there to make a name for himself.... at least it wasn't 'kidnapped by white supremacist Neo-Nazis for stumbling across their training ground in the remote Snowies' ....
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Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns
Reply #7 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:04pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:46pm:

Well - all of us 'racists' here breathed a sigh of relief that he was found - but it does seem suspicious. It's like he fairly arrowed out there to make a name for himself.... at least it wasn't 'kidnapped by white supremacist Neo-Nazis for stumbling across their training ground in the remote Snowies' ....

Recognising unique ethno-capacity is not 'racism'.

If you want to see that in neon, visit Lhasa in Tibet.

You'll notice that, while ethnic Tibetans walk around unaided, all non-Tibetan tourists require a ready supply of oxygen - provided everywhere in shops and hotels in the form of fly-spray-sized canisters.

As a tourist, you will also be sternly discouraged from using analgesics to relieve the strange headaches you feel when you start walking through the streets - they are the first warning that you are suffering from hypoxia - something locals never have to worry about due to their unique genetic capacity to endure in a cold, low-oxygen environment.

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Reply #8 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:05pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne.
Are you suggesting his genetics saved him?

It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown?

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Reply #9 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:26pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne.
Are you suggesting his genetics saved him?

It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown?

Where he is born in the world doesn't alter his genetics if he was born to Afghans.

Also, if he is a Hazari, and he likes hiking in the mountains, any chance his parents and relatives would not give him mountain survival tips?

Do you think northern Scandinavians would not pass on the same to their children if they showed interest in hiking through extreme regions?

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Reply #10 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:31pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:26pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:05pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 12:41pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 11:54am:

The condition he was “ found “ in.
The reports he double back on his trial and rather than heading towards people headed towards the high land.
The reports that his hut was searched several times including by helicopters equipped with heat seeking sensors.
Somewhere on that mountain is a well concealed hole hiding everything he needed to survive as will as avoid “ rescue “.

Of course if I’m wrong we can expect he will donate every cent to the recuse parties he “ earns “ from his “ story “.

Wouldn’t everyone?

“If” it’s “ true “.

The police need to ask some questions and investigate.

Follow the dna as they say.

I thought it might be that Hadi Nazari is likely of the Afghan Hazaran ethnicity - a people from the cold and mountainous Hazarajat in central Afghanistan genetically capable of enduring low temperature and low oxygen extremes - a persecuted ethnic group who know something about survival in the mountains.

It’s reported he was born and live in Melbourne.
Are you suggesting his genetics saved him?

It’s arguably more likely life living in Victoria has enabled him skills to be isolated for long periods of time post covid lockdown?

Where he is born in the world doesn't alter his genetics if he was born to Afghans.

Also, if he is a Hazari, and he likes hiking in the mountains, any chance his parents and relatives would not give him mountain survival tips?

Do you think northern Scandinavians would not pass on the same to their children if they showed interest in hiking through extreme regions?

I’m unsure that “ eat the two chocolate bars that you find” would be classic survival hand me downs from ancient culture.

His story, the condition he was found in are two very different things.

People who were searching for him are asking serious questions.

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Reply #11 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:39pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 9^th, 2025 at 1:31pm:

I’m unsure that “ eat the two chocolate bars that you find” would be classic survival hand me downs from ancient culture.

His story, the condition he was found in are two very different things.

People who were searching for him are asking serious questions.

Not the least of which will be his ethnicity and whether he had survival training.

Ask any people traditionally from mountainous regions of survival stories... you'll be impressed at how resilient they will tell you they are with few resources.

Is anyone in Australia impressed that Aboriginal peoples can endure hot, arid conditions?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77052 Gender:	Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns Reply #12 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 2:07pm He was an experienced hiker who had undertaken numerous week+ long hikes. He had shelter, he had fresh water and he had food. He was in the best position to survive
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36187 Gender:	Re: Was he ever really lost? Hiker-snowy mtns Reply #13 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 2:20pm its an interesting question attention = a bankable commodity ask donald. its why we "pay' attention does the story stack up? human beings are pretty resilient and the "bush' is a bloody hard place to search as a side question, did they employ drones in the search? surely that is the new methodology
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Reply #14 - Jan 9^th, 2025 at 2:21pm

Another question: Is this whole thing a media beat-up that the networks felt they couldn't back out of once they'd run the story?

Has Hadi Nazari even claimed he was lost?

Peoples who have a genetic predisposition towards enduring extreme environments usually pride themselves on being able to survive in harsh conditions and are not usually given to admitting they were lost or in danger - that would be like admitting they're pussies.

Tibetans in Lhasa are embarrassed even to be seen carrying oxygen canisters.

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