Frank wrote on Apr 24^th, 2025 at 6:36pm:


But you have different sub-species, Soren.  Sub-species that have in most cases, difficulty interbreeding.  Humanity has no sub-species, it has no difficulty interbreeding, you can have Euro-asians, Euro-Africans, Euro-Indigenous Australians and other mixing quite happily amongst the various "Races", now can't you, Soren?

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No, you have your reactions to different "Races" invented after birth, Soren.  Racists invent all sorts of poppycock, that DNA doesn't matter, that skin colour determines intelligence, etc.  Poppycock that is not supported by science.  Science determines how the world operates, how humanity operates, science that you have been consistently turning your back on, until now.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

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Au contraie, Soren, most people do.  Most people are quite willing to ignore "Race" except for Racists, like yourself.  Most people live happily together.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

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Only in the minds of Racists such as yourself, Soren.  Racists who refuse to accept people of different "Races" as being the same as themselves.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

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You are making stereotypes that don't necessarily exist in reality, Soren.  You've come a long way, just a little further to go.  Now you must accept science, you must accept DNA, as being the real indicator of the sameness of humanity.  You claim to be a superior human being because you lack melanin in your skin cells, now is your chance to prove it.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...

There are NO races

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2025 at 2:39pm:


Colorism is the “preference for lighter over darker skin color,” which often leads to discrimination against individuals with a darker skin tone (Yu). The preference for fair skin in China is rooted in history and can be traced back to the Han Dynasty (206 B.C. - 220 A.D.).

Discrimination based on skin tone, also known as colorism or shadeism, is a form of prejudice and discrimination in which people of certain ethnic groups, or people who are perceived as belonging to a different-skinned racial group, are treated differently based on their different skin tone.[1][2]

Colorism focuses on how racism is expressed in the psychology of a people and how it affects their concepts of beauty, wealth, and privilege. A key difference between racism and colorism is that while racism deals with the subjugation of one group by another or the belief in racial supremacy, colorism deals with in-group discrimination in addition to between-group discrimination.

Research has uncovered extensive evidence of discrimination based on skin color in criminal justice, business, the economy, housing, health care, the media, and politics in the United States and Europe. In addition, there has been research that evidently shows biases based on skin color in the educational system. Students of color are facing higher education costs and inequalities in advanced programs and are targeted by their teachers or peers from other marginalized groups. In addition to this issue being documented in the United States, lighter skin tones have been considered preferable in many countries in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.[4]

Africa
Main article: Racism in Africa

Skin-whitening treatments and colorism inside of own ethnicity is more common in West and South parts of Africa. [12][13]

In some parts of Africa, people with lighter skin are thought to be more attractive and likely to find more success than those with darker skin tones.[14] In some countries, this barrier has resulted in millions of women and men turning to skin-lightening treatments, many of which are harmful to the body.[15]

Historically, skin lightening in Africa can be dated to European colonialism, where individuals with lighter skin received greater privilege than those of darker tones.[16] European colonists in Rwanda established a color-based caste system that placed the Tutsi people above the Hutu people on the basis of their somewhat lighter skin, leading to the development of racialized political identities that had not existed in Rwanda before colonialism.[17][18] The racial hierarchy and color ranking within colonized African nations left psychological effects on many of the darker-skinned individuals.[16][15]

In the 21st century, 77% of Nigerian women, 52% of Senegalese women, and 25% of Malian women are using lightening products.[14][16] Der Spiegel reports that in Ghana, "When You Are Light-Skinned, You Earn More", and that "[s]ome pregnant women take tablets in the hopes that it will lead their child to be born with fair skin. Some apply bleaching lotion [...] to their babies, in the hopes that it will improve their child's chances."[15]

Asia
Main article: Racism in Asia
East Asia, South Asia, and Southeast Asia

In South Asia, a preference for lighter skin is prevalent.[19] However, East Asian countries tend to embrace their natural skin tone.[20][21][22]

The history of skin color discrimination in East Asia dates back to ancient times. In the ancient dynastic eras, being light-skinned implied wealth and nobility, because those privileged persons could stay indoors while servants had to labor outside.[19]

The historical preference for light-skinned women in East Asia is quite different from more recent Western culture, where women of tan and brown complexions are preferred. Bonnie Adrian writes that American culture makes white women feel inferior for having pale complexions and reddish features, and that she risked skin cancer and wrinkles trying to darken her pale skin.[23]

However, according to 21st-century research, women in China have recently asserted tan skin as the new female beauty ideal. According to Tai Wei Lim, Chinese women in the media now sport bronze complexions, and this is viewed as a reclamation of women's autonomy from the fading Chinese patriarchy.[24]
Japan

Main articles: Racism in Japan and Light skin in Japanese culture

Hiroshi Wagatsuma writes in Daedalus that Japanese culture has long associated skin color with other physical characteristics that signify degrees of spiritual refinement or degrees of primitiveness.[25]

In Japan, there is considerable discrimination and stigma against the skin color of white European women. Japanese women commonly state that white women's skin is too pale, or that it is rough, wrinkled, or has too many spots.[26]

Southeast Asia

In certain Southeast Asian countries such as Malaysia, a common beauty ideal is the "Eurasian look". Locally known as the "pan-Asian look", in Malaysia.[27] The overuse of pan-Asian faces on billboards and on television screens has been a controversial issue in the country. The issue was highlighted in 2009 when Zainuddin Maidin, a Malaysian politician, called for the reduction of pan-Asian faces, which he claimed dominated TV and billboards, and instead to increase the number of Malay, Chinese, and Indian faces on local television.[28]

In Indonesia, the 'Eurasian look' can be traced to beauty ideals established by white male colonists from the Netherlands. White Dutch male colonists were enamored by the brown skin color and black hair of Indonesian women. They considered Eurasian Indonesian women's darker complexions as more beautiful than the pale-skinned, blond-haired complexions of white Dutch women.[29] The frequency at which young Dutch men married Indo women was considered an embarrassment for the conservative element of Dutch society.[30] The legacy of this 'Eurasian' beauty ideal continues to be reflected in local literature, as it was written in a popular novel that "a golden colored skin is the greatest gift Allah can bestow upon a woman", in reference to a blonde-haired girl who did not inherit her grandmother's complexion.[31]

Despite the controversy surrounding the preference for Malaysians who are of mixed Asian (Malay, Chinese, or Indian) and European descent and possess features such as fair skin, some other experts in the industry have said that the use of pan-Asian faces can be used to promote the racial diversity of Malaysians. As the Minister of Information had suggested in 1993, such faces can also be used to promote a product to a diverse racial demographic because of their mixed appearance.[32]