Frank wrote on Apr 24
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23
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Frank wrote on Apr 23
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Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23
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Frank wrote on Apr 23
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There is a curious yeah-but-no-but about human races. While in the animal kingdom the slightest variation means a different species - even when they can interbreed, as in finches or African and Asian elephants and everything in between - among humans there is a very keen avoidance of such differentiation. Except when access to preferment is considered - then racial differences become very significant. Hence our growing population of blond and blue eyed Aborigines.
If humans were finches, we'd have a dozen different species. Remember - classification is not in the world, it is in your head.
See Darwin's Decent of Man, chapter 7, On the Races of Man.
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2300 Poor, Darwin, well before the discovery of DNA. You're here, now, well after that discovery, Soren, you have no excuses. DNA determines species, and it determines that humanity is one only Race, they can all interbreed. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
It takes a COMPLETE moron like you, Bbwiyawn, to be simultaneously a champion of racial and cultural differeneces AND a denier of all such differences.
You've still lost the debate, Soren, badly in fact. You still maintain that superficial differences, such as skin colour/eye shape/nose shape/etc. mean that there are differences between the "Races". The reality is that DNA has proved that these differences are minor, the evidence is, according to the Human Genome Project that the DNA of all the "Races" are essentially the same. Basically they can interbreed and do so quite happily and quite often. It completely demolishes your idea of what constitutes a "Race". There is basically only one race, the human one, Homo Sapien Sapiens. You have undervalued citizenship. You have mistaken caste for "Race" and you have misunderstood the concept of "Race". Time to grow up and admit that you are wrong, to come out from under your bedclothes and face reality. Your "Racism" is purely a social construct. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Recognising different races is NOT to say they are a different species. Homo Sapiens is not a race, btw, but a species.
Canis lupus familiaries is also a single species. It includes ALL dog breeds.
But you have different sub-species, Soren. Sub-species that have in most cases, difficulty interbreeding. Humanity has no sub-species, it has no difficulty interbreeding, you can have Euro-asians, Euro-Africans, Euro-Indigenous Australians and other mixing quite happily amongst the various "Races", now can't you, Soren?
Quote:Race is just another way of saying breed or stock or ethnicity. Two black parents have black kiddies, white parents have white kiddies, Asiatic or Arab parents have Asiatic or Arab kiddies. It is as it is expected. You go to Europe, Africa, Asia, Araby and you can see it. It is because of DNA. These characteristics are inherited. Genetically. Through DNA - the ONLY way to inherit such things. They are not invented or constructed after birth by the society, they come through genetics.
No, you have your reactions to different "Races" invented after birth, Soren. Racists invent all sorts of poppycock, that DNA doesn't matter, that skin colour determines intelligence, etc. Poppycock that is not supported by science. Science determines how the world operates, how humanity operates, science that you have been consistently turning your back on, until now. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Quote:What values, culture, habits, what civilisation maps onto white, Black, Asiatic, Arab, Etc, etc races, breeds, stocks or ethicities is another but closely related question. You cannot get out of your white, black, brown, yellow, bridle or whatever skin. But you can change your culture, habits, civilisation. But most people do not.
Au contraie, Soren, most people do. Most people are quite willing to ignore "Race" except for Racists, like yourself. Most people live happily together. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Quote:Most people conform, culturally, civilisationally, to their race/stock/ethnicity. That's why race is a shorthand for culture/civilisation.
Only in the minds of Racists such as yourself, Soren. Racists who refuse to accept people of different "Races" as being the same as themselves. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
Quote:Some races/cultures are parochial, some are universal. Aborigines, for example, are immensely parochial, tribal, Spanish, as are Africans, Indians, Chinese. Europeans largely aren't, although many are. Australians, Americans, Canadians aren't at all, they are examples of the most universalist European civilisation.
You are making stereotypes that don't necessarily exist in reality, Soren. You've come a long way, just a little further to go. Now you must accept science, you must accept DNA, as being the real indicator of the sameness of humanity. You claim to be a superior human being because you lack melanin in your skin cells, now is your chance to prove it. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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