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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1905 Gender:	Re: What Was the Deal in Syria? Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2024 at 11:04pm Thank you. I really need to study up on all this. It’s such a amazingly tragic part of the world. That I simply have very little education of.
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Reply #16 - Dec 10^th, 2024 at 11:17pm

Daves2017 wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 11:04pm:

Thank you.
I really need to study up on all this.
It’s such a amazingly tragic part of the world.

That I simply have very little education of.

It's easy for many to blame the West for it all... but then the West has never had a history of kumbaya coexistence either.

Even the idea of a European Union was met with scepticism, if not outright derision, by most of the world... Another Holy Roman Empire that was neither holy nor Roman!

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Reply #17 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 8:24am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

The region produces either stable autocracies or psychopathic ones.

There ain't much in-between.

Tunisia must be a land of lotus-eaters.

In Homer's Odyssey, the land of the Lotus-Eaters is located in the Mediterranean Sea, west of the island of Cythera. However, some say the island of Djerba, off the coast of Tunisia, is the actual location of the Lotus-Eaters.

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Reply #18 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:09am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

The region produces either stable autocracies or psychopathic ones.

There ain't much in-between.

Tunisia must be a land of lotus-eaters.

And the most stable autocracies in the region are nearly all monarchies.

Arab tribal instinct seems to gravitate the people towards chieftains-cum-monarchs whose right to rule is ordained by birthright... and Allah... of course!

Indeed - and the west, in its relentless pursuit of upwardly mobile social equalities - steadily got rid of the divine right of kings etc - until we are down to discussion of the divine right of elected government ... something AlboCorp is doing its very best to bring to public attention... sometimes you have to relentlessly kick a sleeping people to awaken that sleeping giant..... and Albo is the epitome of such kickers....

Why - the man can't even come out and say that any students who harass other students for their ethnicity will be de-funded and ordered out of the houses of learning to ply their trade at street level.... and if they play up out there it will be deportation or exile... sure makes The Park and Gon'Mo look like Paradise, don' it?

Why are we continuing to offer inside running to easy life and good income to people who hate on our Jewish population for no reason of their own?

De-fund them NOW and boot them out! You have one hour to pack your tents and piss off or you will be rounded up like the usual suspects you are and processed OUT of this university ... and I've got news for you - the 'student council' does not run this place - **coughs** .......... (let that one hang in the air for a moment or ten) ......... they are an advisory body only (touche`!)!

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Reply #19 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:26am

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:09am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

The region produces either stable autocracies or psychopathic ones.

There ain't much in-between.

Tunisia must be a land of lotus-eaters.

And the most stable autocracies in the region are nearly all monarchies.

Arab tribal instinct seems to gravitate the people towards chieftains-cum-monarchs whose right to rule is ordained by birthright... and Allah... of course!

Indeed - and the west, in its relentless pursuit of upwardly mobile social equalities - steadily got rid of the divine right of kings etc - until we are down to discussion of the divine right of elected government ...

It is the instinctive way humans outsource certainty - to a ruler who has, by birthright, the blessing of a god.

The next best certainty option is the rule of a high priest - a pope, an ayatollah...

A vestige of divine right that still exists within the British monarchy (and likely many others) is that the monarch can never be wrong - the sovereign is infallible.

Democracy may give us all agency but the price we pay for it is to live with ineradicable uncertainty.

It is likely the reason that democratic ideals cannot be easily imposed on a people and usually takes generations - even hundreds of years - to take root in the collective psyche.

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Reply #20 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 11:24am

With revelations of the Assad regime's depravity, the Iranian leading mullahs best be looking for asylum countries quick smart.

There is no moral or religious justification for having supported Assad.

There's a bullet with Iran's Islamic Republic's name on it.

Hezbollah, Hamas and the Houthis are destined for a last stand within the next few months... and then annihilation.

Saudi Arabia is destined to lead the Middle East.

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Reply #21 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:26am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:09am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

The region produces either stable autocracies or psychopathic ones.

There ain't much in-between.

Tunisia must be a land of lotus-eaters.

And the most stable autocracies in the region are nearly all monarchies.

Arab tribal instinct seems to gravitate the people towards chieftains-cum-monarchs whose right to rule is ordained by birthright... and Allah... of course!

Indeed - and the west, in its relentless pursuit of upwardly mobile social equalities - steadily got rid of the divine right of kings etc - until we are down to discussion of the divine right of elected government ...

It is the instinctive way humans outsource certainty - to a ruler who has, by birthright, the blessing of a god.

The next best certainty option is the rule of a high priest - a pope, an ayatollah...

A vestige of divine right that still exists within the British monarchy (and likely many others) is that the monarch can never be wrong - the sovereign is infallible.

Democracy may give us all agency but the price we pay for it is to live with ineradicable uncertainty.

It is likely the reason that democratic ideals cannot be easily imposed on a people and usually takes generations - even hundreds of years - to take root in the collective psyche.

That uncertainty only applies to those schooled and steeped in it - those of us of the tougher breed, known in other circles as 'reactionaries' - a total misnomer for those truly revolutionary in their thinking and approach to things - know the difference and work towards it every day.

I've circled around a full explanation of the way in which all 'revolutionaries' - when successful - then become rapidly what they sought to throw out... it takes a different breed to approach things differently. History repeats itself over and over - I note that you did not include 'elected government' in your discussion of divine right... you don't imagine I called St Anthony - Albanese I The Mad - for no reason, did you?

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Reply #22 - Dec 11^th, 2024 at 1:46pm

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:26am:

Grappler Truth Teller wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 9:09am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:28pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Dec 10^th, 2024 at 9:54am:

The region produces either stable autocracies or psychopathic ones.

There ain't much in-between.

Tunisia must be a land of lotus-eaters.

And the most stable autocracies in the region are nearly all monarchies.

Arab tribal instinct seems to gravitate the people towards chieftains-cum-monarchs whose right to rule is ordained by birthright... and Allah... of course!

Indeed - and the west, in its relentless pursuit of upwardly mobile social equalities - steadily got rid of the divine right of kings etc - until we are down to discussion of the divine right of elected government ...

It is the instinctive way humans outsource certainty - to a ruler who has, by birthright, the blessing of a god.

The next best certainty option is the rule of a high priest - a pope, an ayatollah...

A vestige of divine right that still exists within the British monarchy (and likely many others) is that the monarch can never be wrong - the sovereign is infallible.

Democracy may give us all agency but the price we pay for it is to live with ineradicable uncertainty.

It is likely the reason that democratic ideals cannot be easily imposed on a people and usually takes generations - even hundreds of years - to take root in the collective psyche.

That uncertainty only applies to those schooled and steeped in it - those of us of the tougher breed, known in other circles as 'reactionaries' - a total misnomer for those truly revolutionary in their thinking and approach to things - know the difference and work towards it every day.

I've circled around a full explanation of the way in which all 'revolutionaries' - when successful - then become rapidly what they sought to throw out... it takes a different breed to approach things differently. History repeats itself over and over - I note that you did not include 'elected government' in your discussion of divine right... you don't imagine I called St Anthony - Albanese I The Mad - for no reason, did you?

Doubt (uncertainty) is ineradicable and ubiquitous. Outsourcing it to a ruler from birthright or a priest doesn't eliminate it from society - it just lifts the burden of judging ourselves by the decisions we would otherwise have to make.

An elected government is the epitome of societal uncertainty. Nearly half the people at any time disagree with elected rulers' decisions, and even those who generally agree quibble endlessly over detail.

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Reply #24 - May 16^th, 2025 at 10:08am

Frank wrote on Dec 11^th, 2024 at 2:12pm:

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One participant in the celebrations, identified as taxi driver Mohamed Dibou, told the National that the celebrations in Damascus resembled those in December when Assad fled the country and that citizens were “very optimistic” that they could rebuild their country after over a decade of war.

“President Trump is very humane, we love him,” he added.

So all those Syrian refugees are now going back to rebuild, yeah??

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: What Was the Deal in Syria? Reply #25 - May 16^th, 2025 at 11:16am UK's Elizabeth was anointed like Solomon. Putin leads the Third Rome's Church. Israel is the people of God. Muslims rule by Allah's mercy (peace be upon him). Catholics are the ones. The Universal Dharma rules India. Elvis lives and blesses America and Trump was chosen to save it. Bobby is right.
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Reply #26 - May 16^th, 2025 at 11:29am

chimera wrote on May 16^th, 2025 at 11:16am:

UK's Elizabeth was anointed like Solomon. Putin leads the Third Rome's Church. Israel is the people of God. Muslims rule by Allah's mercy (peace be upon him). Catholics are the ones. The Universal Dharma rules India. Elvis lives and blesses America and Trump was chosen to save it. Bobby is right.

Muslims rule or not by Allah's will (peace be upon him)... peace emanates from Allah... it cannot be upon him.

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Reply #27 - May 16^th, 2025 at 11:43am

'Examples of Allah's mercy include the provision of sustenance, the guidance of the righteous'.
Muslim Senator Fatima Payman has put religion back on the front page after revealing she asked Allah for guidance. Have mercy.
The phrase "peace be upon Allah" (Arabic: السلام على الله) is a form of salutation used in Islam to express respect and reverence for God. It is not a prayer for peace on Allah, but rather a greeting acknowledging His perfect nature and peace.
The Rainbow Serpent is a powerful, often benevolent, creature associated with peace. Canberra has mercy, peace and rainbows.
The influence of Hellenistic Greek art and a preference for subjects from Greek mythology characterize Syrian mosaics well into the Christian period, mosaic pavements with various versions of the rainbow style cover entire floors of a church in Kaoussie, a suburb of Antioch,

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