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America v UN
Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm
 
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.
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Reply #1 - Dec 8th, 2024 at 7:54am
 


For the whole of its existence,   the United Nations   has been a magnet for 'wanna-be' neo-Marxists,
who are determined to convince everyone who observes their activity,
that they are really Humanists, who are dedicated to
the political ideal of 'SOCIAL EQUITY' for all.

Whereas, the reality has been, that for the last 8 decades the ranks of the upper echelons of the U.N.
have proven to the entire world, that they talentless, corrupt, career CHAMPAGNE SOCIALISTS,
demanding for themselves, the provision of unbelievable opulence and comfort within their own offices, and environs,
while millions of   their 'clients'   die and starve to death,
enduring horrific conflicts and famines, in 3rd world hell holes,
subjugated by militant 'wanna-be' Marxists, JIHADISTS, or other 'freedom fighters'.


WWW search......
United Nations, corruption, scandal, abuses
United Nations, "nepotism"




'Government is like a baby:
'SOCIAL EQUITY' MOTIVATED SOCIALISM is like a baby:
An alimentary canal with a
Big appetite at one end and
No sense of responsibility
At the other'
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Champagne socialist

Champagne socialist is a political term commonly used in the United Kingdom.
It is a popular epithet that implies a degree of hypocrisy, and it is closely related to the concept of the liberal elite.

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Reply #2 - Dec 8th, 2024 at 9:53am
 
The UN supported USA'S going after Iraq and Afghanistan
The UN doesn't support Israel going after Terrorism
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Reply #3 - Dec 8th, 2024 at 11:34am
 
Jasin wrote on Dec 8th, 2024 at 9:53am:
The UN supported USA'S going after Iraq and Afghanistan
The UN doesn't support Israel going after Terrorism


Oh?
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Reply #4 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 12:38am
 
Great Trump speech at the UN.
Trump is bollocking the EU, India, China over Russia, the UN over sponsoring and supporting illegal migration that is ruining European countries.
Not mincing words. He is saying what has to be said, had to be said 20-30 years ago.



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Reply #5 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 9:21am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 12:38am:

Great Trump speech at the UN.

Trump is bollocking the EU, India, China over Russia, the UN over sponsoring and supporting illegal migration that is ruining European countries.

Not mincing words.

He is saying what has to be said, had to be said 20-30 years ago.



Yes it was.


And yet, almost all of the rest of the world is today WOKE/socialist,
and we can see, that the whole world [ex-Israel] despises Donalds bold and straight forward manner,
....even those who claim to be the allies of the U.S. despise Donald Trump.

....because much of what he is saying, is demonstrably true.



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Reply #6 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 9:52am
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.



Hi, You stupid RuZZian bot. Still sucking Trump's mushroom for a ruble and a potato from daddy Vlad?
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Reply #7 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 10:20am
 
My take on the United Nations goes something like this. It has become an absolute joke. The biggest joke of all is the United Nations Human Rights Council. Some of the members of this Council in the past have been some of the worst violators of human rights. That is just beyond ridiculous.

Then we have the United Nations Security Council with China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States as permanent members with veto power. Time and time again we have seen this Council kneecapped by Russia and China while they blatantly defy international law and the U.N. Charter. If it were up to me, Russia would not even have had a seat on the Council when they invaded Ukraine. Nor would China, with their blatant aggression in the South China Sea. To be honest, as a founding member from 1945 who has contributed strongly to U.N. peace keeping and humanitarian operations, I am surprised and disappointed that Australia isn't the sixth permanent member.

It started out as a well-meaning idea. But now it just doesn't seem to get anything done. Not even a U.N. Security Council resolution to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine, because Russia has veto power. I think the U.N. has become nothing more than a bloviating talk-fest where nothing of substance gets done.
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Reply #8 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 10:26am
 
Yadda wrote on Sep 24th, 2025 at 9:21am:
Yes it was.


And yet, almost all of the rest of the world is today WOKE/socialist,
and we can see, that the whole world [ex-Israel] despises Donalds bold and straight forward manner,
....even those who claim to be the allies of the U.S. despise Donald Trump.

....because much of what he is saying, is demonstrably true.






Hello to you too, dumdum.

What haven't you been ruptured already? Is your (fake) Christian God not accepting racist bigots?
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Reply #9 - Sep 24th, 2025 at 10:43am
 
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Reply #10 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 4:16pm
 
Great speech at the UN by Millel of Argentina:

“At a certain point, this organization stopped upholding the principles outlined in its founding declaration.

In this very house that claims to protect human rights, they have allowed the entry of bloody dictatorships, such as those of Cuba and Venezuela, without the slightest reproach.

In this very house that claims to defend the rights of women, it allows countries that punish their women for showing skin to join the committee for the elimination of discrimination against women.

In this very house, there is a systemic voting pattern against the State of Israel, which is the only country in the Middle East that defends liberal democracy, while simultaneously demonstrating a total inability to respond to terrorism.”


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Reply #11 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 4:31pm
 
Is the UN still going ?

As irrelevant as the freemason's or the knights templar.

We have moved on.
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Reply #12 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 5:59pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


Do you think you said something here ? I doubt anyone has the vaguest idea what you are talking about.
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Reply #13 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 6:09pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


Do you think you said something here ? I doubt anyone has the vaguest idea what you are talking about.

It is perfectly obvious and simple - except for waddling water fowls. Have some peas.
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Reply #15 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 7:25pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


Do you think you said something here ? I doubt anyone has the vaguest idea what you are talking about.


Maybe your focusing on the wrong thing.


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Reply #16 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 8:38pm
 
Leroy wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 7:25pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 5:59pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


Do you think you said something here ? I doubt anyone has the vaguest idea what you are talking about.


Maybe your focusing on the wrong thing.




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Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America.


UN - The  five permanent member countries—China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

Any one of these countries can shut down discussion on anything. The small countries have virtually no power.

Of your 4 or 5 assertions here I doubt any are correct or at best hugely mitigated.

Small countries equal power = Incorrect

Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. America have veto power - Incorrect.

Trump is awake to this ruse - Trump is awake to not much at all - incorrect

Palestine who are run by Hamas - Incorrect

dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians - While partially true with around 700 innocents killed the responce killing over 650,000 innocents is hardly justified.

give Hamas a voice - Incorrect.





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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm
 
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.
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Reply #18 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:34pm
 
I'd like to see China or Russia lead world security. They do it so well too.
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Reply #19 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.



Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
Presidential Memoranda
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-s...


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Reply #20 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:27pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.



Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-s...


Well done.


Organisations, conventions, treaties captured by and bent to the interest of shitholeistans can fund their activities without American financing.

Or let China pay for them, third world country though it pretends to be for its own lying, cheating purposes.

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Reply #21 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:35pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.




Oh my God, thank God Donald just ignores them Smiley
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Reply #22 - Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:51pm
 
No no no. The UN is not The Allies of Wall Street. It's all the natives, Latinos, huddled masses yearning to be free, Somalis, Collingwood, and Democratic Republic of Free Intafada Palestine the Righteous.  Self evident that all are born equal (not Richmond Tigers) one nation under the sun until death do us part.
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chimera wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 7:51pm:
No no no. The UN is not The Allies of Wall Street. It's all the natives, Latinos, huddled masses yearning to be free, Somalis, Collingwood, and Democratic Republic of Free Intafada Palestine the Righteous.  Self evident that all are born equal (not Richmond Tigers) one nation under the sun until death do us part.

Paki arse sniffer, please translate. This is your kinda gibberish.

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Somalia's UN ambassador—current President of the U.N. Security Council—linked to shady Ohio health care company in Medicaid fraud scandal.

The U.S. government just confirmed that Ambassador Abukar Dahir Osman is associated with Progressive Health Care Services, convicted of $7.2 million in Medicaid fraud.

https://x.com/HillelNeuer/status/2008442646503592263


We should have withdrawn from the UN when they appointed Saudis and Iran the chair for human rights and womens rights.
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Reply #25 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm
 
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  The Palestine Authority has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  The Palestine Authority has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


More snivelling idiocy from Bbwiyawn.

So Gaza is not part of whatever palestinian state Albanese and Wong are proposing to recognise?  Really, cockwomble?

And there is only one UN of which the SC the Assembly and the rest are various arms. That is why they are called the UN Security Council, the UN General Assembly, etc.

And which country is presiding at the UN Security Council. Somalia.

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Reply #27 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.



Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
Presidential Memoranda
January 7, 2026


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-s...


Well done.


You're too stupid to see the dangers of this.

Why am I not surprised.

I hope you're one of the first on the front lines, preferably regiment bullet shield, since you're so eagerly frothing for a Trump global destabilised future.
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Reply #28 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:16pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.



Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
Presidential Memoranda
January 7, 2026


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-s...


Well done.


You're too stupid to see the dangers of this.

Why am I not surprised.

I hope you're one of the first on the front lines, preferably regiment bullet shield, since you're so eagerly frothing for a Trump global destabilised future.



What is danger? Which agency on that list does important work?

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Reply #29 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:16pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 6:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2026 at 5:22pm:
The UN has become a sick joke. The presiding country of the Security Council of the UN?


Somalia.



Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
Presidential Memoranda
January 7, 2026


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-s...


Well done.


You're too stupid to see the dangers of this.

Why am I not surprised.

I hope you're one of the first on the front lines, preferably regiment bullet shield, since you're so eagerly frothing for a Trump global destabilised future.



What is the danger? Which agency on that list does important work?

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Reply #30 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 2:16pm:
Which agency on that list does important work?


The UN began when Winston Churchill met Roosevelt shortly after Pearl Harbor 1941.  The Pacific War and DDay was fought by what they called United Nations Forces. They seem to have used several guns.
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  The Palestine Authority has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


More snivelling idiocy from Bbwiyawn.

So Gaza is not part of whatever palestinian state Albanese and Wong are proposing to recognise?  Really, cockwomble?


Ignoring your ad huminem insults, yes, the Albanese Government has made it very clear to anybody who actually reads the news rather than just react to it, that the Palestinian state they are recognising does not include HAMAS in it's makeup.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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And there is only one UN of which the SC the Assembly and the rest are various arms. That is why they are called the UN Security Council, the UN General Assembly, etc.

And which country is presiding at the UN Security Council. Somalia.


Which members of the Security Council have vetoes?  The US, the UK, Russia, PRC and none of the other members.  Other members serve limited periods after election from the General Assembly membership.  Why do you have to distort reality, Soren?  Is because you are unwilling to face reality?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #32 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 5:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 4:16pm:
Great speech at the UN by Millel of Argentina:

“At a certain point, this organization stopped upholding the principles outlined in its founding declaration.


Milei's error (along with the usual suspects on this board):
the UN was rendered incapable of "upholding the principles outlined in its founding declaration", when the US and USSR were granted access to veto powers in the UNSC, against the wishes of the delegates from smaller countries present at the UN's founding conference.

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In this very house that claims to protect human rights, they have allowed the entry of bloody dictatorships, such as those of Cuba and Venezuela, without the slightest reproach.


Well, the UN sought the principle of universality, ie every nation should be a member of the UN (unlike the previous failed League of Nations) in order for the UN to be able to eliminate war as a method of dispute settlement - but of course the Cold War with its innumerable proxy wars began as soon the UN was created, given the US and USSR both possessed a veto in the UNSC. 

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In this very house that claims to defend the rights of women, it allows countries that punish their women for showing skin to join the committee for the elimination of discrimination against women.


Yes, but  because oppression is in the eye of the beholder, eg given the Koran says  (depending on interpretation) women must be covered head to foot, and since the UN defends 'freedom of religion', and human rights lawyers  disagree on what is "discrimination", we have a problem. 

In my view the 'freedom of religion' clause needs to be heavily proscribed, in the UN UDHR.

Whereas there is (rightly, in my view)  no clause demanding multi-party democracy, in the UN UDHR.

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In this very house, there is a systemic voting pattern against the State of Israel, which is the only country in the Middle East that defends liberal democracy, while simultaneously demonstrating a total inability to respond to terrorism.”


Islamic terrorism after the UN's founding is related to the UN's failure to implement and defend UN res 181 which required confiscation of Palestinian Mandate/Muslim land.

So both you and Milei have very shallow understanding of the issues responsible for the UN's failings. 






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Reply #33 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 8:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  The Palestine Authority has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


More snivelling idiocy from Bbwiyawn.

So Gaza is not part of whatever palestinian state Albanese and Wong are proposing to recognise?  Really, cockwomble?


Ignoring your ad huminem insults, yes, the Albanese Government has made it very clear to anybody who actually reads the news rather than just react to it, that the Palestinian state they are recognising does not include HAMAS in it's makeup.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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And there is only one UN of which the SC the Assembly and the rest are various arms. That is why they are called the UN Security Council, the UN General Assembly, etc.

And which country is presiding at the UN Security Council. Somalia.


Which members of the Security Council have vetoes?  The US, the UK, Russia, PRC and none of the other members.  Other members serve limited periods after election from the General Assembly membership.  Why do you have to distort reality, Soren?  Is because you are unwilling to face reality?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your point, moron, was

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Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  The Palestine Authority has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk


My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??

It is not a difficult question, not even for a moron who boasts about his Doctor of Divinity.

And never mind your total confusion about hamas and the PA, Gaza and the WB.

You are a hopeless moron.
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Reply #34 - Jan 9th, 2026 at 9:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 8:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  HAMAS has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


More snivelling idiocy from Bbwiyawn.

So Gaza is not part of whatever palestinian state Albanese and Wong are proposing to recognise?  Really, cockwomble?


Ignoring your ad huminem insults, yes, the Albanese Government has made it very clear to anybody who actually reads the news rather than just react to it, that the Palestinian state they are recognising does not include HAMAS in it's makeup.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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And there is only one UN of which the SC the Assembly and the rest are various arms. That is why they are called the UN Security Council, the UN General Assembly, etc.

And which country is presiding at the UN Security Council. Somalia.


Which members of the Security Council have vetoes?  The US, the UK, Russia, PRC and none of the other members.  Other members serve limited periods after election from the General Assembly membership.  Why do you have to distort reality, Soren?  Is because you are unwilling to face reality?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Your point, moron, was

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Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  HAMAS has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk


My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Not according to most people.  Most people recognise that HAMAS's remit stops at the Gaza border.

I take that your surrendering over the misconception of the UN?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Jan 10th, 2026 at 10:40am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 9:56pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 8:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 3:34pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 7th, 2024 at 11:56pm:
This is where Trump will go hard.

Small countries get equal power in these settings, even getting Russia and China backing them they can overcome America. Trump is awake to this ruse and will disrupt the system. I actually hope he succeeds, its really weird to see Palestine who are run by Hamas dictating to a country they attacked brutally killing innocent civilians. They have issued arrest warrants for Israel and give Hamas a voice.


There actually are four UNs, not one.  We have the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Secetariat and finally the various special interest organisations.  I am not sure why people like yourself assume their is only one United Nations organisation. The real power rests with the Security Council yet you rail against the General Assembly which is basically powerless.  Is it because you don't like to admit that basically all the power rests in the Security Council where the US has an undeniable veto?

Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  HAMAS has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


More snivelling idiocy from Bbwiyawn.

So Gaza is not part of whatever palestinian state Albanese and Wong are proposing to recognise?  Really, cockwomble?


Ignoring your ad huminem insults, yes, the Albanese Government has made it very clear to anybody who actually reads the news rather than just react to it, that the Palestinian state they are recognising does not include HAMAS in it's makeup.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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And there is only one UN of which the SC the Assembly and the rest are various arms. That is why they are called the UN Security Council, the UN General Assembly, etc.

And which country is presiding at the UN Security Council. Somalia.


Which members of the Security Council have vetoes?  The US, the UK, Russia, PRC and none of the other members.  Other members serve limited periods after election from the General Assembly membership.  Why do you have to distort reality, Soren?  Is because you are unwilling to face reality?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Your point, moron, was

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Oh, and BTW, Palestine is not ruled by HAMAS.  HAMAS has nothing to do with Palestine, it only rules Gaza.  There is clear differences between the two. Typical of the Right to confuse the two.  Tsk, tsk, tsk


My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Not according to most people.  Most people recognise that HAMAS's remit stops at the Gaza border.

I take that your surrendering over the misconception of the UN?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I'll accept your white flag shall I, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:11am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 8:59pm:
My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Gaza is a part of the proposed Palestinian state,  governed by Hamas.

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And never mind your total confusion about hamas and the PA, Gaza and the WB.


Hamas are extremists, the PA in the WB is the moderate governing faction of the Palestinian population who have accepted Israel's right to exist.

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You are a hopeless moron.


It's 'mirror time'.
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Reply #37 - Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:26am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:11am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2026 at 8:59pm:
My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Gaza is a part of the proposed Palestinian state,  governed by Hamas.

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And never mind your total confusion about hamas and the PA, Gaza and the WB.


Hamas are extremists, the PA in the WB is the moderate governing faction of the Palestinian population who have accepted Israel's right to exist.

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You are a hopeless moron.


It's 'mirror time'.



Cheesy

Parrot is educating Bbwiyawn!!!


THere is no 'modederate' or 'radical' Islam. There is no part of the Koran and the hadiths that 'moderate' Musliims reject or repudiate as false. 

Were the Muslims at the Opera House on 9 October 'moderate' or 'radical'?

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Reply #38 - Jan 10th, 2026 at 4:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:26am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:11am:
[quote author=Frank link=1733579805/33#33 date=1767956357]

My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Gaza is a part of the proposed Palestinian state,  governed by Hamas.


I know English is your second language but that poster I think is putting forward the HAMAS view of what the proposed Palestinian state is rather than reality of what the Palestinian Authority has put forward, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #39 - Jan 10th, 2026 at 8:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 4:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:26am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2026 at 11:11am:
[quote author=Frank link=1733579805/33#33 date=1767956357]

My question was - is Gaza not part of 'palestine' then??


Gaza is a part of the proposed Palestinian state,  governed by Hamas.


I know English is your second language but that poster I think is putting forward the HAMAS view of what the proposed Palestinian state is rather than reality of what the Palestinian Authority has put forward, hey, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So the PA will form the Palestinian state on the West Bank and Gaza will be - what??  ANOTHER, separate palestinian state??

Not even you can be that stupid, cockwomble. Or can you? Are you??

(Yes, yes)





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Reply #40 - Jan 12th, 2026 at 2:52pm
 
Do not use the United Nations for something for which it was not founded. You have a hundred and seventy nations. They don't all agree that democracy is the best way to conduct affairs. They don't all have the same view of human rights that we have. You can't put executive decisions into their hands about war and peace.
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