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To Help Poor Countries Deal With Climate Change
Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:09pm
 
Countries to benefit from $460b climate deal blast funding as woefully insufficient

November 24, 2024
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Baku: Countries at the COP29 summit in Baku adopted a $460 billion a year global finance target on Sunday to help poorer nations cope with impacts of climate change, a deal its intended recipients criticised as woefully insufficient.

The agreement, clinched in overtime at the two-week conference in Azerbaijan’s capital, was meant to provide momentum for international efforts to curb global warming in a year destined to be the hottest on record.

Activists participate in a demonstration for climate finance at the COP29 UN Climate Summit.


Some delegates gave the deal a standing ovation in the COP29 plenary hall. Others lambasted wealthy nations for not doing more and criticised the Azerbaijan host for hurriedly gavelling through the contentious plan.

“I regret to say that this document is nothing more than an optical illusion,” Indian delegation representative Chandni Raina told the closing session of the summit, minutes after the deal was gavelled in. “This, in our opinion, will not address the enormity of the challenge we all face. Therefore, we oppose the adoption of this document.”

United Nations climate chief Simon Stiell acknowledged the difficult negotiations that led to the agreement, but hailed the outcome as an insurance policy for humanity against global warming.

“It has been a difficult journey, but we’ve delivered a deal,” Stiell said. “This deal will keep the clean energy boom growing and protect billions of lives.”

Chandni Raina, part of India’s negotiating team, speaks during a plenary session at COP29.


“But like any insurance policy – it only works – if the premiums are paid in full, and on time.”

The agreement would provide $460 billion annually by 2035, boosting rich countries’ previous commitment to provide $153 billion per year in climate finance by 2020. That earlier goal was met two years late, in 2022, and expires in 2025.



The deal also lays the groundwork for next year’s climate summit, to be held in the Amazon rainforest of Brazil, where countries are meant to map out the next decade of climate action.

The summit cut to the heart of the debate over financial responsibility of industrialised countries - whose historic use of fossil fuels has caused the bulk of greenhouse gas emissions - to compensate others for worsening damage from climate change.

Mukhtar Babayev, COP29 president, right, embraces Simon Stiell, United Nations climate chief, after gaveling a deal for money to curb climate change.


It also laid bare divisions between wealthy governments constrained by tight domestic budgets and developing nations reeling from costs of storms, floods and droughts.

Negotiations had been due to finish on Friday, but ran into overtime as representatives from nearly 200 countries struggled to reach consensus. Talks were interrupted Saturday as some developing countries and island nations walked away in frustration.

“We are leaving with a small portion of the funding climate-vulnerable countries urgently need. It isn’t nearly enough, but it’s a start,” said Tina Stege, Marshall Islands climate envoy.

Nations have been seeking financing to deliver on the Paris Agreement goal of limiting global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels - beyond which catastrophic climate impacts could occur.



Foreign Minister Penny Wong says climate change is an "existential threat" to the Pacific.

The world is currently on track for as much as 3.1C of warming by the end of this century, according to the 2024 UN Emissions Gap report, with global greenhouse gas emissions and fossil fuels use continuing to rise.

Sunday’s deal failed to set out detailed steps for how countries will act on last year’s UN climate summit pledge to transition away from fossil fuels and triple renewable energy capacity this decade. Some negotiators said Saudi Arabia had attempted to block such a plan during the talks.

A Saudi official did not immediately provide comment.

What counts as a developed nation?
The roster of countries required to contribute - about two dozen industrialised countries, including the US, European nations and Canada - dates back to a list decided during UN climate talks in 1992.

European governments have demanded others join them in paying in, including China, the world’s second-biggest economy, and oil-rich Gulf states. The deal encourages developing countries to make contributions, but does not require them.

The agreement also includes a broader goal of raising $2 trillion in climate finance annually by 2035 - which would include funding from all public and private sources and which economists say matches the sum needed to address global warming.

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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:25pm
 
Yes we are in a climate emergency.  Rich countries should help poor countries deal with climate change.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:31pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:25pm:
Yes we are in a climate emergency.  Rich countries should help poor countries deal with climate change.   Sad

They have been trying. But they can't learn, being tribal, fractious, stuck in the mud of backwardness.


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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:43pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:25pm:
Yes we are in a climate emergency.


So which emergencies of climate are we experiencing? Wink
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Reply #4 - Nov 28th, 2024 at 6:49am
 
Climate reparations for China? Surely, the joke is on us

Climate shakedown.


At the UN climate conference in Azerbaijan last week, Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen co-chaired the session on climate finance, namely the reparations that rich countries are supposed to pay to developing countries, including China.

At this conference China demanded the West pay $1.8 trillion every single year into this fund, which shows some hide given that China’s emissions in just the past decade have exceeded Britain’s total emissions since the start of the industrial revolution.

While the China ambit claim was not agreed to, the Bowen-chaired session did agree that wealthy countries would be on the hook to pay more than $450bn every year into this climate fund from 2035 – a fund China won’t pay into but will likely draw down from as a supposedly developing country, even though China is the world’s second largest economy and the world’s biggest emitter.

Unsurprisingly, in this climate theatre of ever more extravagant promises and even more extreme demands, $450bn a year has been denounced as totally inadequate. India’s COP representative slammed it as a “paltry sum” that was “nothing more than an optical illusion”. Yet the fact India has committed to achieve net-zero emissions only by 2070 strongly suggests the world’s fifth biggest economy, and third biggest emitter, regards climate as more a means of moral blackmail, to extort ever more development aid, than as an existential threat.
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Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2025 at 3:30pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Nov 24th, 2024 at 6:25pm:
Yes we are in a climate emergency.  Rich countries should help poor countries deal with climate change.   Sad


They've been given nearly a century's worth of mega fortunes, but the poor nations - like Dole Bludgers, strangely keep needing more!
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Reply #7 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 6:42pm
 
Earlier this week, Simon Stiell got to his feet at an event hosted by the Smart Energy Council to issue what he thought would be a dire warning.

“Mega-droughts (will make) fresh fruit and veg a once-a-year treat,” Stiell said, instantly bringing a gleam to the eye of vegetable-averse children everywhere.



Stiell’s words were yet another dull exercise in promoting fear of a looming climate apocalypse. Yawn.

Alas, we have seen this movie before. We might recall that more than a decade ago, palaeontologist and mammalogist Tim Flannery uttered words paraphrased as “It might never rain again in eastern Australia”. To be fair to the former chair of the Copenhagen Climate Council, his exact words were: “Since 1998 particularly, we’ve seen just drought, drought, drought, and particularly regions like Sydney and the Warragamba catchment – if you look at the Warragamba catchment figures, since ’98, the water has been in virtual free fall, and they’ve got about two years of supply left, but something will need to change in order to see the catchment start accumulating water again.”


That was then and this now. As I look out from my office window, it is raining and the Warragamba Dam is at 97 per cent capacity. Less than a month ago with heavy rains in Sydney and flooding in the Upper Hunter, the dam overflowed. So frequent are these events that a project was put to government that would raise the dam’s wall by 14m, allowing Warragamba to hold an extra trillion ­litres of water and reduce flood damage in outer Sydney. The project was quietly shelved due to ­environmental concerns.

Since Flannery uttered those words 18 years ago, there have been four significant flooding events on the Northern Rivers leading to loss of life and cataclysmic property loss. Meanwhile, the Bureau of Meteorology’s July drought statement revealed below average rainfalls in large parts of Western Australia, western NSW, most of western and southern Queensland, southern Northern Territory, northern and parts of eastern South Australia, much of western Tasmania, and parts of west Gippsland in Victoria.

Droughts and flooding plains. Who’d have thought climate was so damned complicated?


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Reply #8 - Jul 30th, 2025 at 6:54pm
 
I see the EPA in the USA has killed the previous CO2 Endangerment Finding. One leg of the chair broken. Wink
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