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faithless electors
Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm

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........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:08pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

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........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

Guaranteed!

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Reply #2 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:10pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

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........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

No doubt whatsoever.

The rapist & convicted felon will try anything & everything to overturn the results of the election if he loses.

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Reply #3 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

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........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #4 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

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........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:34pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Quote:

........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

I am not sure how it works AP....Neither does Trump or those advising him???

Huh

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #6 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:42pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Quote:

........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

After the rapist tried to steal the election, they changed/clarified the rules regarding the VP counting the electoral votes.

The role is now purely "ceremonial".

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #7 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Quote:

........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

After the rapist tried to steal the election, they changed/clarified the rules regarding the VP counting the electoral votes.

The role is now purely "ceremonial".

I remember that now, so I am guessing the answer to the previous question would be yes - she can certify her own election win as it is purely ceremonial in nature now.

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #8 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:57pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Quote:

........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

After the rapist tried to steal the election, they changed/clarified the rules regarding the VP counting the electoral votes.

The role is now purely "ceremonial".

I remember that now, so I am guessing the answer to the previous question would be yes - she can certify her own election win as it is purely ceremonial in nature now.

Yep

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Re: faithless electors
Reply #9 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 8:08pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:42pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:27pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 1:40pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 12:54pm:

Quote:

........... In the 2016 United States presidential election, ten members of the Electoral College voted or attempted to vote for a candidate different from the ones to whom they were pledged.[1] Three of these votes were invalidated under the faithless elector laws of their respective states, and the elector either subsequently voted for the pledged candidate or was replaced by someone who did.[2][3][4] Although there had been a combined total of 155 instances of individual electors voting faithlessly prior to 2016 in over two centuries of previous US presidential elections, 2016 was the first election in over a hundred years in which multiple electors worked to alter the result of the election.[1] .........

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presi...

This will be one area trump will again try to steal the election

If Harris wins the election the (Democrat) Vice President will preside over the certification of the electoral college slates....The Vice President would not accept slates from fake electors....The plan for States changing the slates has not worked in the past due to States intervening!!!

Huh

Can she certify her own win, should she gain enough electoral college votes? I would assume it would have to be the senate pro tempore who has to certify the results to eliminate any questions of impropriety, but maybe I’m wrong.

After the rapist tried to steal the election, they changed/clarified the rules regarding the VP counting the electoral votes.

The role is now purely "ceremonial".

I remember that now, so I am guessing the answer to the previous question would be yes - she can certify her own election win as it is purely ceremonial in nature now.

But she will not certify a Trump win until all the steal is in.

We might not get a final result until 2026-27, if then.
She'll be caretaker until all the fake mail-ins are in.

America is no longer a serious country. She is over as the leader of the free world under Biden/Harris. The free world is over, on America's watch.

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