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Reply #30 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:40pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 2:40pm:

powers and his lack of power against the GG.

Of course Whitlam knew about the reserve powers - he was a barrister and a QC.

Whitlam once cracked a joke about them at Kerr's expense and in Kerr's presence, that it would be a matter of who shot first: a prime minister or a governor-general.

Those who knew Kerr commented that it was the nascence of Kerr's paranoia that Whitlam would one day have him recalled.

As the Palace letters revealed, it was on this matter that Kerr sought assurances from Elizabeth II that she would not act on any advice to recall him. She could not promise that she would not act on the PM's advice but did offer Kerr comfort in that she would take 'most unkindly' to such advice and would delay his recall for as long as it was possible.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #31 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:53pm and s 74 applied fully in Whitlam's time, also, giving more clout to the royal fist. 54% voted for such majesty in 1999.
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Reply #32 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:28pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 3:53pm:

and s 74 applied fully in Whitlam's time, also, giving more clout to the royal fist.
54% voted for such majesty in 1999.

And? The Palace Letters are not about s 74.

They are about revealing that Elizabeth II had prior knowledge of Kerr's dismissal deliberations, the extent to which she gave comfort and encouragement to Kerr to proceed and the conversations she had with Kerr after the fact.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #33 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:45pm Sec 74 is additional info about the royal authority in the constitution. The monarch still held discretionary power in that area, as with state court appeals to UK. There is no discretionary politics in the Letters (despite Hocking's inventions). No royal impropriety is proven and only breathless questions are offered.
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Reply #34 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:16pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 4:45pm:

Sec 74 is additional info about the royal authority in the constitution. The monarch still held discretionary power in that area, as with state court appeals to UK. There is no discretionary politics in the Letters (despite Hocking's inventions). No royal impropriety is proven and only breathless questions are offered.

The Palace Letters reveal that Kerr invited Elizabeth II into his dismissal deliberations and that she offered comfort and encouragement to Kerr during those deliberations and did not ask whether he had warned the prime minister nor, if she believed he had, asked what the prime minister's advice was.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #35 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:43pm that's nice
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #36 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:04pm chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 5:43pm: that's nice Would've been nice to know for Australians in 1975. It may have woken up Australians of the day to the true nature of hereditary monarchy.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #37 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:09pm 'Hereditary monarchy' means the person at the top has heirs with hairs ( or her herr). [Kerr's heir]. {the heir is here}
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17122 Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #38 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:28pm chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:09pm: 'Hereditary monarchy' means the person at the top has heirs with hairs ( or her herr). [Kerr's heir]. {the heir is here} British hereditary monarchy attempts to covertly assert its divine right, while overtly making a show of being neutral and above politics.
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Reply #39 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:53pm

This is undeniably correct. It was neutral and above politics while being neutral and above politics. In secret, as Hocking noticed from behind the heavy royal curtains and corgi heirs, the crown was divine and right under the coverts. She took notes (thousands, with the Queens face on the $1 and $5). (Hocking can overtly lip-read where most just see a EIIR ).

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Reply #40 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:57pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 6:53pm:

This is undeniably correct. It was neutral and above politics while being neutral and above politics. In secret, as Hocking noticed from behind the heavy royal curtains and corgi heirs, the crown was divine and right under the coverts. She took notes (thousands, with the Queens face on the $1 and $5). (Hocking can overtly lip-read where most just see a EIIR ).

Can you quote that in the original Mandarin?

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Reply #41 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:10pm

這無疑是正確的。它是中立的、凌駕於政治之上的，同時也是中立的、凌駕於政治之上的。秘密地，正如霍金從厚重的皇家窗簾和柯基犬繼承人後面注意到的那樣，王冠是神聖的，就
在隱蔽物的下面。她做了筆記（數千張，1 美元和 5 美元上都有皇后區的頭像）。（霍金可以公開唇讀，而大多數人只看到 EIIR）

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Reply #42 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:19pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:10pm:

這無疑是正確的。它是中立的、凌駕於政治之上的，同時也是中立的、凌駕於政治之上的。秘密地，正如霍金從厚重的皇家窗簾和柯基犬繼承人後面注意到的那樣，王冠是神聖的，就
在隱蔽物的下面。她做了筆記（數千張，1 美元和 5 美元上都有皇后區的頭像）。（霍金可以公開唇讀，而大多數人只看到 EIIR）

Amazing the unbridgeable divide in context between languages and cultures!

As jibberish in Mandarin as it translates into English!

All bilingual/multilingual speakers confirm that thinking in one language often cannot contextually be rendered into another... and the further the distance between East and West the greater the loss of translatability.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15426 Armidale Gender:	Re: suspect? Reply #43 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:21pm Kerr bought 10 bottles of this for his underhand messages. https://www.glowpaint.com.au/invisible-ink/#:~:text=Invisible%20ink%20is%20trans... Replies were by telephone to Kerr's garden shed and the queen whispered instructions in Oxford accents. Hocking was forced to invent the words to fill in the middle chapters of her book.
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Reply #44 - Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:26pm

chimera wrote on Nov 4^th, 2024 at 7:21pm:

Kerr bought 10 bottles of this for his underhand messages.
https://www.glowpaint.com.au/invisible-ink/#:~:text=Invisible%20ink%20is%20trans...

Replies were by telephone to Kerr's garden shed and the queen whispered instructions in Oxford accents. Hocking was forced to invent the words to fill in the middle chapters of her book.

See! There it is again! Some things just don't translate from Mandarin to English!

A deer is now a horse!

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