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Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher
Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:05pm

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/jewish-heads-sue-islamic-preacher-over-...

"Two Australian Jewish leaders say they have been forced to sue an Islamic cleric over his "hateful" sermons to deter others from promoting racism to further their political views.

Preacher Wissam Haddad, also known as Abu Ousayd, and the Sydney-based Al Madina Dawah Centre have been accused of racial discrimination in Federal Court proceedings filed on Friday.

Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-chief executive Peter Wertheim and deputy president Robert Goot decided to sue over allegedly offensive behaviour based on racial hatred.

Mr Haddad's sermons were made at the Bankstown centre in Sydney's southwest and also published online.

In a statement on Monday, Mr Wertheim and Mr Goot claim the preacher's sermons used derogatory generalisations of Jewish people.

"We have commenced proceedings in the Federal Court to defend the honour of our community, and as a warning to deter others seeking to mobilise racism in order to promote their political views," Mr Wertheim said.

They are seeking court injunctions requiring the removal of the allegedly racist speeches and prohibiting Mr Haddad from making similar comments in the future.

They are not seeking compensation or damages.

Mr Wertheim said Australia's multicultural success story meant people were free to observe their faiths in harmony and respect.

"That should mean we do not bring the hatreds, prejudices and bigotry of overseas conflicts and societies into Australia," he said.

While maintaining social cohesion was the role of governments and their agencies, they had failed the Jewish community, Mr Wertheim said.

"It should not fall on our community, or any other community, to take private legal action to remedy a public wrong, and to stand up to those who sow hatred in our midst," he told AAP.

"However, in the circumstances we feel we have no alternative."

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #1 - Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:11pm Australian Jews want an exclusive franchise for hate speech. Why didn't the terrorist yarmulke guy identify himself to the public after terrorizing an Officeworks employee? The yarmulke guy was a foreign professional agitator and instigator.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87500 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #2 - Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:24pm Just write to these two, give them your name and address, and I'm certain they'll add your name to the law suit respondents list.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #3 - Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:29pm Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 28^th, 2024 at 11:24pm: Just write to these two, give them your name and address, and I'm certain they'll add your name to the law suit respondents list. I wouldn't want to cause these two dupes to have a diaper explosion incident.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50277 At my desk.	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #4 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:21am It had to happen sooner or later. How long until they ban the Quran?
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #5 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:30am freediver wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:21am: It had to happen sooner or later. How long until they ban the Quran? Even Israeli Jews wouldn't have the balls to do that.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50277 At my desk.	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #6 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:41am Israel does not have these laws. We do.
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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #7 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:43am freediver wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:41am: Israel does not have these laws. We do. Israel is lawless. Israeli Jews will even murder Israeli Jews and the victim's parents will praise the perpetrators.
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Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher
Reply #8 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:49am

freediver wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 9:21am:

It had to happen sooner or later.

How long until they ban the Quran?

freediver,

No one should be lobbying to BAN A BOOK, imo.

Even a book such as the KORAN.

IF WE DO THAT......
Are we going to allow [only] 'experts' to make choices and important national decisions for us ?

Aren't we, the citizens of Australia ? [DEMOCRACY = = governance, by the people]

IMO......
We all need to have the FREEDOM....to seek and to know and to understand what ISLAM teaches and what ISLAMIC religious doctrines promote.

WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT IS......
Banning the practice of ISLAM, in Australia [....if such a ban is supported in the parliament of Australia].

For the reason that banning the practice of ISLAM, in Australia would be in Australia's national interest.
[and no mosques]

Yadda said.......
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/0#0
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582638136/0#0

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Search for yourself....
...for the truth about what ISLAMIC religious doctrines teach and promote.

Religious doctrines which encourage violence......
against anyone who rejects the primacy of ISLAMIC Law.

There are many evidences [easily discovered],
which confirm the menace which the followers of ISLAM threaten,
to us, 'disbelievers'.

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WWW SEARCH........
[search for this whole string....]
"Cause of Allah" "Jihad" site:www.thereligionofpeace.com

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

WWW SEARCH........
[search for this whole string....]
"Cause of Allah" "Jihad" site:www.jihadwatch.org/

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/09/fatah-hails-jihadi-with-quran-quote-never-thi...

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Reply #10 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 3:28pm

Religious Freedom is guarantee'd under the Australian Constitution. It states that in Section 116 of the Australian Constitution prohibits the Commonwealth Parliament from establishing a religion, imposing religious observance, or prohibiting the free exercise of religion. However, this protection is limited in several ways, including only applying to the Commonwealth, not all Commonwealth government actions, and not protecting non-religious beliefs.

Therefore it is highly unlikely the Australian Government would have any interest in banning Islam. Muslims, despite what Islamophobes like Yadda believe, are not violent. Some are, most are not. The Islamophobes have little or no contact with Muslims and based their views on hatred of difference. They forget that we have seen their hatreds against Jews, Catholics and so on, in the past in Australia's history. They want to repeat the same mistakes. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher
Reply #11 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 4:16pm

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Therefore it is highly unlikely the Australian Government would have any interest in banning Islam.

What about Islam's various texts? For example, do you think this one is compatible with our racial discrimination/hatred laws?

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The Jews will fight you and you will be led to dominate them until the rock cries out: "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, kill him!"

I am not suggesting that the law was intended to target Islam. Just that Islam will inevitably come to the attention of these types of laws.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #12 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 4:29pm That would be a rock in Saudi Arabia, Mahommed saw many of those in Precambrian complex of igneous and metamorphic rocks. Talking rocks are rare here apart from the picnic at Hanging Rock.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher Reply #13 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 5:26pm They wouldn't have a chance in sharia court.
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Re: Jewish Leaders sue Muslim 'hate' preacher
Reply #14 - Oct 29^th, 2024 at 5:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 29^th, 2024 at 3:28pm:

Muslims, despite what Islamophobes like Yadda believe, are not violent. Some are, most are not.

American Christians have killed around 10 million people, mostly civilians since 1945.

Pre-Israel Jews and Israeli Jews have murdered more than 200,000 Muslims, mostly civilians, mostly women and children.

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