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The central way forward?!?
Oct 17^th, 2024 at 10:52pm

I don’t believe either labor or Lnp are the leaders this country needs to not only deal with today’s issues or future issues.

The simple and proven truth is labor is as corrupt and terrible as the Lnp.

The green or one nation both have corrupt conduct recorded and I believe it’s proportion to their share the vote- if they had a bigger base in government there corruption would increase in proportion.

So, I’m all about independents .

Unfortunately so are labor and the Lnp.

They disguise party people and parachute them in with suspect funding for no other reason than to feed preferences back to either the liberal or labor.

Such utter deception and they all believe it’s ok!

Don’t consider your independents as actually independent.

The majority are Trojan and set in place to trap your vote and feed it the very party your seeking to avoid.

Your vote does count.

In funding, who ever vote for receives close to $15 in our taxpayer funding.

Don’t get ripped off

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90081 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: The central way forward?!? Reply #1 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:02pm If the stranglehold is too tight it will choke the country - if it is too loose it will let the country run its own way...... which would be unbearable to the politicians....
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20505 Gender:	Re: The central way forward?!? Reply #2 - Oct 17^th, 2024 at 11:44pm I vote Libertarian at 1 with Pauline or Shooters Fishers farmers at 2 and 3. Fatima Paymans new muslim party will be last with Greens 2nd last and Vegans from Animal Justice party 3rd last. Looks like Jason in gone in the next election how is that diversity working out for Labor?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: The central way forward?!? Reply #3 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 6:22am Daves2017 wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 10:52pm: The simple and proven truth is labor is as corrupt and terrible as the Lnp. care to show any of this 'corruption' you keep rabbiting on about?
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Reply #4 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 8:32am

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 6:22am:

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 10:52pm:

The simple and proven truth is labor is as corrupt and terrible as the Lnp.

care to show any of this 'corruption' you keep rabbiting on about?

https://jacobin.com/2021/11/adem-somyurek-australian-labor-right-alp-corruption-...

“Earlier this year, disgraced former MP Adem Somyurek joined the long list of Labor politicians to be investigated for corruption.”

How many do you require?

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Reply #5 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:34am

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 8:32am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 6:22am:

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 17^th, 2024 at 10:52pm:

The simple and proven truth is labor is as corrupt and terrible as the Lnp.

care to show any of this 'corruption' you keep rabbiting on about?

https://jacobin.com/2021/11/adem-somyurek-australian-labor-right-alp-corruption-...

“Earlier this year, disgraced former MP Adem Somyurek joined the long list of Labor politicians to be investigated for corruption.”

How many do you require?

Unlike with the libs, Somyurek was expelled from the labor party years ago. Do you want to try again? This time, see if you can come up with something with the current federal govt, which is what you were whinging about

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Reply #6 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:37am

“Labor Party

Marlene Kairouz, Victorian Consumer Affairs Minister
Kairoyz was also involved in the Somyurek branch stacking debacle (outlined below). The IBAC report also found Ms Kairouz to have breached elements of the ministerial and MPs codes of conduct. She resigned from her position as Minister, but remains in the Victorian government and denies any wrongdoing.“

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Reply #7 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:39am

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:37am:

“Labor Party

Marlene Kairouz, Victorian Consumer Affairs Minister
Kairoyz was also involved in the Somyurek branch stacking debacle (outlined below). The IBAC report also found Ms Kairouz to have breached elements of the ministerial and MPs codes of conduct. She resigned from her position as Minister, but remains in the Victorian government and denies any wrongdoing.“

thats not evidence of corruption though, and still nothing to do with the current federal government. .... three strikes and you're out

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Reply #8 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:55am

“One journalist has written: “The NSW Premier Neville Wran, whose administration later became a byword for graft …” Another described the more recent Berejiklian Coalition government in NSW as “the most corrupt government since the Wran years” “

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Oh indulge me, I’m simply setting the mood, dimming the lights and putting on some relaxing music.

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Reply #9 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 11:29am

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 9:55am:

“One journalist has written: “The NSW Premier Neville Wran, whose administration later became a byword for graft …” Another described the more recent Berejiklian Coalition government in NSW as “the most corrupt government since the Wran years” “

“ Afr

Oh indulge me, I’m simply setting the mood, dimming the lights and putting on some relaxing music.

I'm not sure you understand what constitutes 'evidence'.

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Reply #10 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 11:43am

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-...

“ Dastyari said his position had become untenable in the wake of further revelations regarding his contact with Huang Xiangmo, a donor with links to China’s ruling communist regime, which forced his first demotion in 2016.”
“ the guardian.

Rudd”s mr fix it or paper bag handler?

If I build it the truth will become obvious?

Now how about the leader of the opposition and his multi million dollar memory mistake?

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: The central way forward?!? Reply #11 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 11:50am The Libs and Labs are as crooked as they come - murder, manslaughter, child sex offences, stealing, fraud, etc etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_politicians_convicted_of_crimes Totally past their use-by date
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Reply #12 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 12:04pm

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 11:43am:

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-...

“ Dastyari said his position had become untenable in the wake of further revelations regarding his contact with Huang Xiangmo, a donor with links to China’s ruling communist regime, which forced his first demotion in 2016.”
“ the guardian.

Rudd”s mr fix it or paper bag handler?

If I build it the truth will become obvious?

Now how about the leader of the opposition and his multi million dollar memory mistake?

Sam was a decade ago and has nothing to do with the Albo government... you said the current government was corrupt and yet despite multiple attempts, you've been unable to any evidence of corruption whatsoever, let alone made an argument for alleged (by someone other than you) corruption.

Admit it, you made it up.

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Reply #13 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 1:52pm

Independents!
But be warned, both the Lnp and labor will run “ independent’s “ to corrupt the vote.

We need people who put their community first and negotiate what’s best for the country.

Not born to rule lifetime politicians who will do anything to promote their own career in the party they belong to at your and I expense!

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Reply #14 - Oct 18^th, 2024 at 1:56pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 12:04pm:

Daves2017 wrote on Oct 18^th, 2024 at 11:43am:

https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/12/sam-dastyari-quits-labor-...

“ Dastyari said his position had become untenable in the wake of further revelations regarding his contact with Huang Xiangmo, a donor with links to China’s ruling communist regime, which forced his first demotion in 2016.”
“ the guardian.

Rudd”s mr fix it or paper bag handler?

If I build it the truth will become obvious?

Now how about the leader of the opposition and his multi million dollar memory mistake?

Sam was a decade ago and has nothing to do with the Albo government... you said the current government was corrupt and yet despite multiple attempts, you've been unable to any evidence of corruption whatsoever, let alone made an argument for alleged (by someone other than you) corruption.

Admit it, you made it up.

Just give me time.

If I build it eventually the truth will be on display.
I admit it’s a little more difficult with Albo hidden federal Icac.

I mean, why would Albo want to ensure federal politicians names accused of corruption are hidden from
The public domain?

Why?

Hey , just maybe…….

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