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Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:24pm:


Show us your Doctor of Divinity credentials and explain where legitimate criticism of Islam ends and 'phobia' starts.

Thanks. We'll  wait. You are the expert in this, like in wacism.

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1400 years of Islamic history explained in 15 minutes.

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Brigitte Gabriel lost her childhood to militant Islam. In 1975 she was ten years old and living in Southern Lebanon when militant Muslims from throughout the Middle East poured into her country and declared jihad against the Lebanese Christians. Lebanon was the only Christian influenced country in the Middle East, and the Lebanese Civil War was the first front in what has become the worldwide jihad of fundamentalist Islam against non-Muslim peoples. For seven years, Brigitte and her parents lived in an underground bomb shelter. They had no running water or electricity and very little food; at times they were reduced to boiling grass to survive
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Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3rd, 2024 at 8:29pm:

Good call. They are right.

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Frank wrote on Nov 3rd, 2024 at 11:33pm:


It's a waste of taxpayers money.

Islamophobia envoy will stop legitimate criticism of Islam and whitewash all the terrorist problems.
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Reply #11 - Nov 6th, 2024 at 12:02am
 
There should be an Overseer of Islamic Propaganda.
Muslims get away with far too much. 

Imagine ANY other group at the Opera House on 8 October 2023 carrying on like the Muslims against any other group.

But the Muslims get away with it because EVERYONE knows the price of disagreeing with Muslims.
It upsets them.
And when they are upset, they will kill you.

Discuss... if you dare.

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Reply #15 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 10:58am
 
Brian, I am having what people might call a "mid life crisis". Your yawning emojis are what I would term your way of you calling out for assistance, because you are about to die. And you have been waiting to die for a long while.

Me too. When I was shot in the arm, back when I was about 10 or 11 years old, you could imagine how long the walk to the ambulance station was for me. Why I did not seek assistance at a nearby doctors is one where we did not have anyone around after 5pm who would fail to report to police.

As far as the drug dealer was concerned, I am some scholarship student who attended either Heights College or Glenmore High School before it officially opened. He was also of the opinion that I have ageing parents or young grandparents who did not mind if I hosed my shoulder for 5 minutes and "tis but a flesh wound" bandaged my shoulder to stop what little bleeding was left, after an initial gush an hour beforehand. That was after having a rather painful cold afternoon shower. But that was okay, since it was late September.

My grandparents were kind enough to leave some fruit and vegetables behind, whilst they visited my uncles and aunties in SEQld. There was also some near stale bread I could have with the remainder of their margarine. I took the spare key with me, when I left the house at 10pm. A little while later, I was downtown walking along Denison Street, when it occurred to me that I should have taken a train ride over from Glenmore Road. After visiting some "friends" to help extract the bullet, I jumped onto the passing northbound train and took a ride over the railway bridge. Best. train ride, ever. The driver graciously stopped the train near where my grandparents lived, because someone had spotted me getting on the back of the train and had called the police. Had they delayed calling the police by a minute, I could have walked home from Farm Street to my parents' house.

Imagine what I did in the year 2000/2001? Tried to join the army. I was medically exempt because of my autism. But, there is no record of me being diagnosed as autistic. Army medics have certain opinions on the condition. But army doctors don't want to know you.

The person who shot me was 185cm tall, and towered over my 11 y.o. 150 cm frame. He was also one that claimed to be part of the Moslem faith. He also identified as indigenous Australian. You can imagine that it was some surprise to my 22-year-old, 175-to-178 cm tall self to see that a lieutenant in the army was the same guy that shot me 11 or 12 years earlier.

Don't waste my sanity with these stupid condescending emojis, because I and others have a problem with drug dealing, indigenous Australian Moslems.
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Tell me, Unsub, do you have a problem with a specific Indigenous Muslim drug dealer or all Muslims because you were shot by an Indigenous  Muslim?  Be honest please, don't make assumptions.

Go off on your hatred all you want but please don't tell me how I cannot react to it if I wish.  I use my yawning emoji to indicate my disinterest in condemning all Muslims.  Despite their bad reputation, my personal experience with Muslims have been positive, I had far more experience than most Islamophobes,  I have encountered Muslims through my service, my studies and my work  I have not encountered a bad Muslim.  I know they exist but they seem far rarer than you're giving credit for.  Most Australian Muslims are plain, ordinary people,  They don't want trouble, they don't deserve your hatred and in particular the hatred of other Islamophobes who have never encountered a Muslim in their lives and who'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
Tell me, Unsub, do you have a problem with a specific Indigenous Muslim drug dealer or all Muslims because you were shot by an Indigenous  Muslim?  Be honest please, don't make assumptions.

Go off on your hatred all you want but please don't tell me how I cannot react to it if I wish.  I use my yawning emoji to indicate my disinterest in condemning all Muslims.  Despite their bad reputation, my personal experience with Muslims have been positive, I had far more experience than most Islamophobes,  I have encountered Muslims through my service, my studies and my work  I have not encountered a bad Muslim.  I know they exist but they seem far rarer than you're giving credit for.  Most Australian Muslims are plain, ordinary people,  They don't want trouble, they don't deserve your hatred and in particular the hatred of other Islamophobes who have never encountered a Muslim in their lives and who'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
Tell me, Unsub, do you have a problem with a specific Indigenous Muslim drug dealer or all Muslims because you were shot by an Indigenous  Muslim?  Be honest please, don't make assumptions.

Go off on your hatred all you want but please don't tell me how I cannot react to it if I wish.  I use my yawning emoji to indicate my disinterest in condemning all Muslims.  Despite their bad reputation, my personal experience with Muslims have been positive, I had far more experience than most Islamophobes,  I have encountered Muslims through my service, my studies and my work  I have not encountered a bad Muslim.  I know they exist but they seem far rarer than you're giving credit for.  Most Australian Muslims are plain, ordinary people,  They don't want trouble, they don't deserve your hatred and in particular the hatred of other Islamophobes who have never encountered a Muslim in their lives and who'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath as a Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What the **** was that?

I gave you an anecdote about a time when I was a child, getting shot with a small arms firearm, all because this Moslem Indigenous Australian drug dealer did not like the fact that I told off his nephew for being a little "dung heap". I understand the irritation he felt. However, that drug dealer thought he would lose respect of his peers if he did not shoot some blond child to establish tribal elder status -- a mobster mentality -- meant that I needed to mature quite fast that day.

Because my parents and grandparents were all members of "essential services" in some capacity, it is not far fetched for me to claim that I have learned quite a lot in the first 10 years of my life. One such phrase I learned quite early was "a dead man tell no tales".

There is no way that I can prove to you what happened. I have grown nearly 30 centimeters taller since then. I am also a little more than twice as heavy as I was back then. You don't want to believe me? Fine. This is just one of my anecdotes that is nearly 100% truthful. The only thing that I left out of the story was that my parents were home that afternoon and wondered why I went around to my grandparents' place to bathe for 30 minutes in bath salts, whilst the shower was running. I also favoured one side of my body for quite some time, until I was near completely healed.

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I reckon that rather than think this situation and it's consequences fully out, you'd just rather hate all Muslims.  Which is of course a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:15pm:
I reckon that rather than think this situation and it's consequences fully out, you'd just rather hate all Muslims.  Which is of course a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 3:15pm:
I reckon that rather than think this situation and it's consequences fully out, you'd just rather hate all Muslims.  Which is of course a WOFTAM.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nicely lobbed, Brian. Except you forgot that you threw the pin instead of the grenade. Hitler salutes are illegal in Australia now. But, I will forgive you for doing one my way. You are supposed to pull the pin with your finger, not your mouth. In all seriousness, there have been horror stories of people being dumbarses with big mouths who think walking around with dud grenades are a cool war time story to tell their children.

You with your yawning emojis triggered my partial PTSD. I know I am a smart arse. But, I would rather be a smart arse than to be a dead dumbarse.

Dental is covered under East Timorese medical. I have all my teeth. But I did have a bit of a problem reluctantly playing stick ball with some yobbo throwing a live grenade near an Iwasaki beach resort.
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Reply #22 - Nov 7th, 2024 at 7:40pm
 
It's amazing how a muzzo slut can get a corrupt, limp wristed, white hating corrupt judge to find telling someone to go home is racist.

Just wait until an abbo tells me to go back to where I came from, I'll be going for a 6 figure settlement.

Muzzos are all slimy parasites.
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Brian's a meg-a-lo-man-i-ac! Brian's a meg-a-lo-man-iac!
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Valkie wrote on Nov 7th, 2024 at 7:40pm:
It's amazing how a muzzo slut can get a corrupt, limp wristed, white hating corrupt judge to find telling someone to go home is racist.

Just wait until an abbo tells me to go back to where I came from, I'll be going for a 6 figure settlement.

Muzzos are all slimy parasites.
We need rid of every one of them and thei sycophant followers



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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 8th, 2024 at 12:07pm:


You can always do that in Pakistan and see how they react.
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Muslims are chasing and beating Jews on the streets of Amsterdam.

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1854825260639494653


Geert Wilders:

“We have become the Gaza of Europe. Muslims with Palestinian flags are hunting Jews. I will not accept this. The authorities will be held accountable for their failure to protect Israeli citizens.”


"60 Moroccan muslims arrested for attack on Jews in #AmsterdamAttack
Taking these j!ihadist barbarians into your countries and allowing them to bring all their savage beliefs and traditions with them and colonize your countries is now an existential threat to Europe. It is a mistake that must immediately be corrected if Europe is to survive. "


Wilders himself has been under police protection for 20 years from Muslims. In his own country.

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Wilders is lucky he isn't in Australia,  section 18C would stop that sort of speech, toute sweet.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Wilders is lucky he isn't in Australia,  section 18C would stop that sort of speech, toute sweet.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Just goes to show that you'd get into legal trouble in Australia for telling the truth.

And it will get only worse up of the misinformation bill comes into effect. It is even more hazy and vague and overarching than 18c and so it will be used even more to silence people telling uncomfortable truths - the sole reason for such laws.


The late great Clive James made a pertinent point: the problem with Australians is not that so many of them are descended from convicts, but that so many of them are descended from prison officers. The Left channel and embody that scaldy, jailer mentality.


Needless to say, the sharpest kind of censorship - death - is built into Islam against its critics.
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Wilders is lucky he isn't in Australia,  section 18C would stop that sort of speech, toute sweet.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Not necessarily, it depends on how the speech is expressed. It can sound like it's breaking the law, but may not be

There's a lot of leeway in 18c

"The Human Rights Commission is a neutral facilitator, not an enforcer. And, wherever possible, the aim is to resolve things via conciliation.

Only a very small number of cases ever make their way to the court system. Even where a complaint is upheld, the remedies are hardly draconian.

Damages are rarely awarded (and if they are, the amount is modest), and no-one is convicted or goes to prison — because 18C does not create a criminal offence".





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Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 9:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Wilders is lucky he isn't in Australia,  section 18C would stop that sort of speech, toute sweet.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Not necessarily, it depends on how the speech is expressed. It can sound like it's breaking the law, but may not be

There's a lot of leeway in 18c

"The Human Rights Commission is a neutral facilitator, not an enforcer. And, wherever possible, the aim is to resolve things via conciliation.

Only a very small number of cases ever make their way to the court system. Even where a complaint is upheld, the remedies are hardly draconian.

Damages are rarely awarded (and if they are, the amount is modest), and no-one is convicted or goes to prison — because 18C does not create a criminal offence".






Reputations damage or the threat of it creates (self-)censorship.

These laws are vague. For example, the judge in his judgement wrote:


288    Senator Hanson has a long history of making anti-Muslim statements and, as I have found, she has a tendency to do so. At the time of her tweet, she knew that Senator Faruqi was Muslim. She also knew that Pakistan is a Muslim country. On those facts I am satisfied that a cause of Senator Hanson tweeting in the terms that she did is because Senator Faruqi is Muslim.


So telling Faruqi "piss off back home" would be wacist and Islamophobic if you know shee is from Pakistan. In fact, it would be wacist and whateverphobic if it was a directive to "piss off back to" ANY other country since the Racial Discrimination Act 18c says

(ii)    was done by the respondent because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the applicant;


It would be wacist and Aussiephobic for an immigrant to say to an Austral ii a, " piss off, skippy" if you follow the judge's reasoning. 

This is madness. 18c should be repealed.
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Reply #36 - Nov 9th, 2024 at 11:26pm
 
Pauline should have asked for a jury trial. There's too many "Judge only" trials these days. Hanson was allowed to ask for a jury

A jury would have heard nothing about "muslim" from Hanson's tweet, only that she said "Pakistan". As it was, Judge Stewart only assumed Hanson meant "muslim, go back to Pakistan". He based his finding on videos of Hanson in the past. But a jury would have seen through that, and focused their thoughts around the case at hand

The whole thing is a mountain out of a molehill, the issue was a molehill, but the Judge turned it into a mountain. He really should have sent it to conciliation, where it belonged, where Hanson could've said to Faruqi: "I won't say anything about you in the future, if you don't rubbish the monarch any more"





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Reply #37 - Nov 10th, 2024 at 7:39am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 12:51pm:
Wilders is lucky he isn't in Australia,  section 18C would stop that sort of speech, toute sweet.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #38 - Nov 10th, 2024 at 7:57am
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 9th, 2024 at 11:26pm:
Pauline should have asked for a jury trial. There's too many "Judge only" trials these days. Hanson was allowed to ask for a jury

A jury would have heard nothing about "muslim" from Hanson's tweet, only that she said "Pakistan". As it was, Judge Stewart only assumed Hanson meant "muslim, go back to Pakistan". He based his finding on videos of Hanson in the past. But a jury would have seen through that, and focused their thoughts around the case at hand

The whole thing is a mountain out of a molehill, the issue was a molehill, but the Judge turned it into a mountain. He really should have sent it to conciliation, where it belonged, where Hanson could've said to Faruqi: "I won't say anything about you in the future, if you don't rubbish the monarch any more"






It was not a criminal case but civil litigation. The judge simply made an order of removal of the tweet and costs against Hanson.  Hanson is not convicted of anything.

It's significance is in becoming a precedent, ie a case that can be cited in future cases of litigation about wacism and Islamophobia.
Negative reference to Pakistan as in "Piss off back to Pakistan" is now legally defined and wacist Islamophobia. 
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Hanson has been judged a Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Western media: “Islam is a religion of peace, love, harmony, inclusion, tolerance, ect.”

Arab media: “Enslave the infidels… Kill Christians and Jews if they refuse to bow down to Islam and the rule of Muslims."

As you can see in this video, a popular Muslim preacher on Arab TV says: “Non-Muslims Must Convert to Islam, Pay Jizya, or Be Fought and Killed; Don't Be Ashamed of Our Religion; Don't Feel Sorry for the Enemies of Allah”.

Is this a religion of peace? What do you think about “Islamophobia”?

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Yawn at this, self-soiling cockwomble.



In other wacist and Islamophobic news about Pakistanis pissing off to Pakistan :

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Sara Sharif homeschooled and made to wear hijab to conceal injuries, court told
The 10-year-old was found beaten to death in her home in Woking in August last year

Sara’s father, Urfan Sharif, 42, her stepmother, Beinash Batool, 30, and her paternal uncle Faisal Malik, 29, are accused of carrying out a violent “campaign of abuse” before killing her on 8 August.

The court was told the defendants fled to Pakistan the following day.

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The prosecutor, William Emlyn Jones KC, told the court on Tuesday that Sara began wearing a hijab in January 2023 “to conceal injuries to her face and head from the outside world”. Neighbours told police it seemed “unusual” because Sara was the only member of her family to wear a hijab.
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Western media: “Islam is a religion of peace, love, harmony, inclusion, tolerance, ect.”

Arab media: “Enslave the infidels… Kill Christians and Jews if they refuse to bow down to Islam and the rule of Muslims."

As you can see in this video, a popular Muslim preacher on Arab TV says: “Non-Muslims Must Convert to Islam, Pay Jizya, or Be Fought and Killed; Don't Be Ashamed of Our Religion; Don't Feel Sorry for the Enemies of Allah”.

Is this a religion of peace? What do you think about “Islamophobia”?

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Islamicat, possibly Pakistani? Afghan?
No, Isis!

https://x.com/_Islamicat/status/1848838332068823095


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Frank wrote on Nov 10th, 2024 at 10:10pm:
Islamicat, possibly Pakistani? Afghan?
No, Isis!

https://x.com/_Islamicat/status/1848838332068823095


Islamicat is from ISIS in Syria
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All the Islamophobia envoy came out of the pub to say hello to Mohammed


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Europe’s Jews: Canaries in the Civilizational Coal Mine

Twenty years ago this month, a Dutch Islamist named Mohamed Bouyeri slaughtered filmmaker and prominent Islam critic Theo van Gogh on the streets of Amsterdam. The second-generation Dutch-born Moroccan shot the older provocateur several times, then slit his throat. Bouyeri, now serving a life sentence, said he did it for Allah. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Muslim apostate and friend of Van Gogh’s, had to go into hiding for her life after Bouyeri threatened to kill her too.

If you publicly criticized Islam, it wasn’t safe for you to walk on the streets of Amsterdam in 2004. Things have changed since then. As we saw on Thursday night, now all it takes to get you ambushed by violent Muslims in Amsterdam is to be a fan of an Israeli football team. Well, the Netherlands always has prided itself on ‘progress.’

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Until and unless Europeans find the courage to open their eyes and speak the truth openly, without fear, events like what happened in Amsterdam last night will only increase. And so too will the likelihood that fed-up European voters will turn to politicians—even those condemned as ‘far right’ today—whom they can trust to get serious about the crisis.

Renaud Camus, the French “Great Replacement” theorist demonized as ‘far right’ by the French media (even though he is a gay leftist and atheist), has written that the unwillingness of Europeans to speak openly about the threats to their cultures and societies from mass migration, especially Islamic migration, amounts to leaving themselves unprotected against forces that will destroy European civilization. He’s right. It will do Europe no good to concede this to Camus after it is too late to do anything about it.

Europe does not have all the time in the world. The fate of the Jews, as ever, is a canary in the civilizational coal mine. As it was in Amsterdam in 1942, it is now in Amsterdam in 2024. What are Europeans—both leaders and followers—going to do about it?
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/europes-jews-canaries-in-th...


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During a ceremony in Sweden to commemorate Kristalnacht, Jews were brutally attacked by a Free Palestine group.
https://x.com/aijac_update/status/1855732572690473179?s=43


Also related
Swedes are outraged by a new video showing the 26-year-old Syrian asylum seeker Karam Kanjo robbing a 91-year-old Swedish woman of the necklace she was gifted by her husband 50 years ago.

Kanjo was out on probation after having attacked a woman on the street and raped her.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1855617666620301743?s=43

Ayaan Hirsi Ali:
A parliamentary debate demanded by Geert Wilders will be held on Tuesday. The technicalities of the security failures will be debated and promises to fix those will be issued.

But this incident does not usher in a paradigm shift. The nearly quarter-century old doom loop of Islamist intolerance remains intact.

The demographic of radicalised anti-Semitic, anti-western Muslim population continues to grow because of high birth rates and immigration.

The Islamist infrastructure of mosques, Muslim schools, Islamic centers, media and online forums is firmly entrenched.

The Hamasification of a considerable chunk of Muslims in the Netherlands continues to grow.


The Jews of Holland are outnumbered.  Those too old to relocate may carry on living there. Younger generations may consider making their home elsewhere.

https://x.com/ayaan/status/1854999288549462290?s=43


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How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.

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Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude?  In reality it is important because it illustrates how stupid your claims are.  You hate Muslims, you don't know any Muslims and your refuse to get to know Muslims because it might demonstrate how stupid you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dear Brian,
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.


It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


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Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your thinking, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your think, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Master in Nonsequiturs  - add that to your long list of educational attainment.  Judging from your responses and yawns, it is your most important and defining achievement.  Yawn if you do not understand this ( either).
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Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 11:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your think, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Master in Nonsequiturs  - add that to your long list of educational attainment.  Judging from your responses and yawns, it is your most important and defining achievement.  Yawn if you do not understand this ( either).


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you wouldn't last five minutes in a politics tutorial, would you, Soren, despite your supposed PhD.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: No Islamophobia envoy yet
Reply #69 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 1:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 11:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your think, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Master in Nonsequiturs  - add that to your long list of educational attainment.  Judging from your responses and yawns, it is your most important and defining achievement.  Yawn if you do not understand this ( either).


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you wouldn't last five minutes in a politics tutorial, would you, Soren, despite your supposed PhD.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Well, no if your yawning and nonsequiturs are characteristic of politics tutorials - your reference to which, needless to say, is itself a nonsequitor.
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Reply #70 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 2:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 1:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 11:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your think, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Master in Nonsequiturs  - add that to your long list of educational attainment.  Judging from your responses and yawns, it is your most important and defining achievement.  Yawn if you do not understand this ( either).


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you wouldn't last five minutes in a politics tutorial, would you, Soren, despite your supposed PhD.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well, no if your yawning and nonsequiturs are characteristic of politics tutorials - your reference to which, needless to say, is itself a nonsequitor.


My yawning follows on quite well from your useless ad huminem insults, Soren.  When you demonstrate your supposed superiority in intelligence and education, I think it will be a cold day in hell.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: No Islamophobia envoy yet
Reply #71 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 3:39pm
 
ad huminem insults?


ad hominem.   Roll Eyes


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Reply #72 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 2:43pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 1:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 12:14pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 11:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 10:36am:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 9:29pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 4:50pm:
Frank wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 2:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 12:53pm:
How many Muslims do you know personally, Baron?  Any at all or are you such an Islamophobe that you'd cross the street rather than walk on the same footpath with a Muslim?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How many Muslims you know personally is totally irrelevant to forming a view on Islam. Nor is it necessary to say every single time Islam is discussed that not every single last Muslim is a raving fanatical jihadi.


My goodness me, an admission from you Soren that you might be wrong in your attitude? 


How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do let your Islamophobia rule your think, don't you, Soren?  Such a foolish attitude to hold, particularly when you champion the Jews so much.  You don't perceive the hypocrisy in your attitudes, do you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Master in Nonsequiturs  - add that to your long list of educational attainment.  Judging from your responses and yawns, it is your most important and defining achievement.  Yawn if you do not understand this ( either).


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you wouldn't last five minutes in a politics tutorial, would you, Soren, despite your supposed PhD.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well, no if your yawning and nonsequiturs are characteristic of politics tutorials - your reference to which, needless to say, is itself a nonsequitor.


My yawning follows on quite well from your useless ad huminem insults, Soren.  When you demonstrate your supposed superiority in intelligence and education, I think it will be a cold day in hell.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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How does that follow from "It is irrelevant how many Muslims you know personally to form a view of Islam"?
Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

Nor is it necessary to say every time Islam is discussed that not every last Muslim is a raving jihadi. Do you understand this point? Yawn if you don't.

It is still perfectly legitimate to dismiss and condemn Islam as a backward, retrograde violent political ideology of world conquest that rewards moral depravity. The evidence is overwhelming.
Yawn if you do not understand this.


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Re: No Islamophobia envoy yet
Reply #73 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 2:43pm:
When you demonstrate your supposed superiority in intelligence and education, I think it will be a cold day in hell. 


I never said that my intelligence is superior to yours (I don't have to).
You are the only one here who has ever boasted about your education, including an obviously fake, mail order 'Doctor of Divinity', not me.

To notice and say that your yawns and nonsequiturs point to a total lack of mental acuity or sincerity or ability to articulate even basic ideas is not 'supposed superiority'. It is child's play.


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Reply #74 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 4:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 3:39pm:
ad huminem insults?


ad hominem.   Roll Eyes


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem



Brian's spelling.   Roll Eyes



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Reply #75 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:57pm
 
Brian tried to talk it up against Frank, as if he has 4 of a Kind. But he only has a pair. Frank might not have a 4 of a Kind. But he sure has a better hand than Brian.

Brian is like France. Still thinking it is politically superior to Great Britain. Typical french-gay lefty.
The world has turned another notch and France, like Brian, has failed to adapt and evolve Politically. Like Germany, France is just another political pretender. Just an actor in a movie for the Left.
Brian, when he doesn't 'TROLL' with his dicksuck emoji. Still fails to provide good argument and/or discussion to topics BECAUSE he is just a brainless Replicant who posts stuff from sites, because it's pretty obvious he hasn't a clue about anything else... like the other half of his brain.
He is - an institutionalised Gimp.😆
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Reply #76 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:09pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:57pm:
Brian tried to talk it up against Frank, as if he has 4 of a Kind. But he only has a pair. Frank might not have a 4 of a Kind. But he sure has a better hand than Brian.

Brian is like France. Still thinking it is politically superior to Great Britain. Typical french-gay lefty.
The world has turned another notch and France, like Brian, has failed to adapt and evolve Politically. Like Germany, France is just another political pretender. Just an actor in a movie for the Left.
Brian, when he doesn't 'TROLL' with his dicksuck emoji. Still fails to provide good argument and/or discussion to topics BECAUSE he is just a brainless Replicant who posts stuff from sites, because it's pretty obvious he hasn't a clue about anything else... like the other half of his brain.
He is - an institutionalised Gimp.😆



Brian is not playing with a full deck -
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Reply #77 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:20pm
 
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Reply #78 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 6:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 3:39pm:
ad huminem insults?


ad hominem.   Roll Eyes


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Brian's spelling.   Roll Eyes



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Reply #79 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 7:06pm
 
See. True to form. The Troll can't respond effectively. The guy is a complete moron😆
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Reply #81 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:39pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:21pm:

I am going to call you a cun't every time you yawn, you cun't.

And I invite every other member to do so.
You cun't.

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Reply #82 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 8:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dear Brian,
do you have a comment more commensurate with your qualifications?


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I am going to call you a cun't every time you yawn, you cun't.

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Reply #83 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:44pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 8:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dear Brian,
do you have a comment more commensurate with your qualifications?


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I am going to call you a cun't every time you yawn, you cun't.

And I invite every other member to do so.
You cun't.

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Reply #84 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:51pm
 
Jasin wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 5:57pm:
because it's pretty obvious he hasn't a clue about anything else... like the other half of his brain.



Lefty Laborites use only their right side cerebral hemisphere. That's why they need a righty opposition in Parliament. Each of them use only half their brains





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Reply #85 - Nov 22nd, 2024 at 9:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 22nd, 2024 at 8:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 8:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2024 at 7:44pm:
Dear Brian,
do you have a comment more commensurate with your qualifications?


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I am going to call you a cun't every time you yawn, you cun't.

And I invite every other member to do so.
You cun't.

Let's see who gets censured and banned first for being a cun't.


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It's Islamophobia awareness month in Europe

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More cultural enrichment in Islamophobia awareness month.

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Reply #90 - Dec 4th, 2024 at 9:59pm
 
Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy approves of wife beating if you fear disobedience.

How do you think a muslim keeps 4 wives in line?
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Reply #92 - Dec 4th, 2024 at 10:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30th, 2024 at 10:24am:

I am going to call you a cun't every time you yawn, you cun't.

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You cun't.

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Let’s be clear: the term “Islamophobia” wasn’t coined to protect Muslims from bigotry—it was designed by Islamist regimes to shield Islam from scrutiny. Think Iran, Taliban, ISIS—these are the architects of this word.

They can’t impose blasphemy laws in the West, so they’ve outsourced the job to us. And it’s working—people silence real stories of oppression under Islamic law, including abuses against women, minorities, and LGBTQ people, in fear of being labeled “Islamophobic”.

Before using that term, ask yourself: whose agenda are you advancing?



https://x.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1864692287638269981



Bwhine prefers to listen to bearded nutjobs who preach Islam over ex muslims like Yasmine Mohammad.

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Reply #95 - Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:22pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 29th, 2024 at 11:16pm:
Grin


Seriously though if those men are going to heaven then not going there would be the preferred choice. So its a win win.
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Fareed Zakaria defined the term as "hatred of President Trump so intense that it impairs people's judgment"

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@YasMohammedxx

Let’s be clear: the term “Islamophobia” wasn’t coined to protect Muslims from bigotry—it was designed by Islamist regimes to shield Islam from scrutiny. Think Iran, Taliban, ISIS—these are the architects of this word.

They can’t impose blasphemy laws in the West, so they’ve outsourced the job to us. And it’s working—people silence real stories of oppression under Islamic law, including abuses against women, minorities, and LGBTQ people, in fear of being labeled “Islamophobic”.

Before using that term, ask yourself: whose agenda are you advancing?



https://x.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1864692287638269981



Bwhine prefers to listen to bearded nutjobs who preach Islam over ex muslims like Yasmine Mohammad.


Bbwian knows Abdul, spoke to Abdul.  So why dont jihadist take any notice of Bbwian's Muslims? They are obviously Islamophobes.
Bbwian understands Islam and Abdul. Everyone else is driving on the wrong side of the road. Muslims who do not conform to Bbwian and his Abdul are Islamophobe.
It is as simple as yawning and shitting your nappies. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9th, 2024 at 7:47pm:

What a hideous, gaping  cun't you are.
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Syrian Islamic crowd invade Essen's Christmas markets shouting "Allah Akbar". Germany no longer seems to be Europe. Real disaster.


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Let’s be clear: the term “Islamophobia” wasn’t coined to protect Muslims from bigotry—it was designed by Islamist regimes to shield Islam from scrutiny. Think Iran, Taliban, ISIS—these are the architects of this word.

They can’t impose blasphemy laws in the West, so they’ve outsourced the job to us. And it’s working—people silence real stories of oppression under Islamic law, including abuses against women, minorities, and LGBTQ people, in fear of being labeled “Islamophobic”.

Before using that term, ask yourself: whose agenda are you advancing?

https://x.com/YasMohammedxx/status/1864692287638269981

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While Muslim leaders do **** all to assimilate.

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Stop reading the ABC news site.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


Stop reading the ABC news site.   Roll Eyes


Why?  It is the best balanced, well references news site readily available to Australians.  It is considered the most trusted news in Australia.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.

It is not possible, certainly not on the ABC to critically appraise Islam and point out its many negative aspects and baselessly large claims for itself.
It is also impossible to point out on the ABC that Muslim leaders have done nothing to engage in debate with critics of Islam. All they do is demand quasi-blasphemy laws to protect Islam, making it untouchable by rational criticism. Muslim leaders  never offer or engage in rational, reasoned defence of its practices and doctrines.

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Reply #108 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.

It is not possible, certainly not on the ABC to critically appraise Islam and point out its many negative aspects and baselessly large claims for itself.
It is also impossible to point out on the ABC that Muslim leaders have done nothing to engage in debate with critics of Islam. All they do is demand quasi-blasphemy laws to protect Islam, making it untouchable by rational criticism. Muslim leaders  never offer or engage in rational, reasoned defence of its practices and doctrines.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So then, where is a critical appraisal of Islam on the ABC? Where is a rational engagement by Muslims with critics of Islam?


And where the he'll do you get the idea that I have a PhD in psychology? In any case, you comment on subjects that you DON'T have a Bachelors or Masters in or a mail order Doktorate. Why do you "foolishly believe that you are equipped to comment" on subjects in which you have no academic qualifications?
Why ARE you, in general, such a self-contradictory, muddle headed stupid old duffer?


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Reply #110 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:39am
 
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:31am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.

It is not possible, certainly not on the ABC to critically appraise Islam and point out its many negative aspects and baselessly large claims for itself.
It is also impossible to point out on the ABC that Muslim leaders have done nothing to engage in debate with critics of Islam. All they do is demand quasi-blasphemy laws to protect Islam, making it untouchable by rational criticism. Muslim leaders  never offer or engage in rational, reasoned defence of its practices and doctrines.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So then, where is a critical appraisal of Islam on the ABC? Where is a rational engagement by Muslims with critics of Islam?


It occurs as frequently as there is a Islamist outrage, Soren.  It doesn't happen all day, everyday because that is not the ABC's job.  I know you need to trumpet your ignorance all the time but people don't feel the need like you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Reply #111 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 12:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:39am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:31am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.

It is not possible, certainly not on the ABC to critically appraise Islam and point out its many negative aspects and baselessly large claims for itself.
It is also impossible to point out on the ABC that Muslim leaders have done nothing to engage in debate with critics of Islam. All they do is demand quasi-blasphemy laws to protect Islam, making it untouchable by rational criticism. Muslim leaders  never offer or engage in rational, reasoned defence of its practices and doctrines.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So then, where is a critical appraisal of Islam on the ABC? Where is a rational engagement by Muslims with critics of Islam?


It occurs as frequently as there is a Islamist outrage, Soren.  It doesn't happen all day, everyday because that is not the ABC's job.  I know you need to trumpet your ignorance all the time but people don't feel the need like you. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Never seen it.
Show us one or two instances if they are so frequent as you say
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1 MILLION views of my very heated debate with a chap who argued that having foreign food justified mass immigration

He got very angry when I proved diversity was a weakness

And he was outraged when I told him some truths about Muslim beliefs

His response: "It's completely irrelevant the views people have"

Short clip here

Full length debate linked in the second tweet below.
https://x.com/RafHM/status/1869052856021418213






Historian Rafe Heydel-Mankoo lashes out at a convicted extremist taking a pub to court over an ‘offensive’ sign.

"We need to stop treating Muslims, black people and other ethnic minorities as if they're China dolls and need to be protected."
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Hybridization actually adds strength to a culture, Soren.  Specialisation leads to weakness.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Hybridization actually adds strength to a culture, Soren.  Specialisation leads to weakness.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



That is an empty slogan of a few misunderstood concepts thrown together. Culture is not animal husbandry.
No culture is 'specialised.

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 5:16pm:
Hybridization actually adds strength to a culture, Soren.  Specialisation leads to weakness.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



That is an empty slogan of a few misunderstood concepts thrown together. Culture is not animal husbandry.
No culture is 'specialised.


Basically that is what you're calling for, isn't it, Soren?  Multicultures tend to last longer than pure cultures.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 5:27pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 5:16pm:
Hybridization actually adds strength to a culture, Soren.  Specialisation leads to weakness.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



That is an empty slogan of a few misunderstood concepts thrown together. Culture is not animal husbandry.
No culture is 'specialised.


Basically that is what you're calling for, isn't it, Soren?  Multicultures tend to last longer than pure cultures.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Multicultures lead to war in short order.
Ireland
India
English, French, Russian etc civil wars - all about cultural differences. In fact every revolution IS about cultural difference.
Syria
Roman Empire
Dutch republic
Thity years war
Crusades
Reconquist
New World histories
Etc, etc, etc.


It never works. There is no multicultural success story. Not least because the very concept of multiculturalism is a very recent invention. Like transgenderism and all the other moronic inventions of the last 5 minutes.

There has NEVER been a successful 'multicultural ' society, ever. Nor is there one now.
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe
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Western media: “Islam is a religion of peace. Criticism of Islam is Islamophobia”.

Arab media: “Enslave or kill the infidels if the reject Islam… Rape their wife and daughters for the sake of Allah…”.

As you can see in this video, a popular Muslim preacher on Arab TV says: “Non-Muslims Must Convert to Islam, Pay Jizya, or Be Fought and Killed; Don't Be Ashamed of Our Religion; Don't Feel Sorry for the Enemies of Allah”.

Is this a religion of peace? What do you think about “Islamophobia”?


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Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What did Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi do that was different to Prophet Muhammad Bwhine?

What did they do that wasn't Islamic Bwhine? Roll Eyes

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Who was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the jihadist group Islamic State

Baghdadi - real name Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim al-Badri - was born in 1971 in the central Iraqi city of Samarra.

His religious Sunni Arab family claimed to be descended from the Prophet Muhammad's Quraysh tribe - something generally held by pre-modern Sunni scholars as being a key qualification for becoming a caliph.

As a teenager, he was nicknamed "the believer" by relatives because of the time he spent at the local mosque learning how to recite the Koran and because he would often chastise those failing to abide by Islamic law, or Sharia.

After finishing school in the early 1990s he moved to the capital, Baghdad. He gained bachelor's and master's degrees in Islamic studies before embarking on a PhD at the Islamic University of Baghdad, according to a biography published by supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50200392



Prophet Muhammad had a coptic christian sex slave called Maria.

When he was busted by his wives for porking her Allah said it was halal for him to pork her against the wishes of his wives. Roll Eyes

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It was narrated from Anas,that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse,but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.'

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959


Islam allows muslims to take female captives as sex slaves this is the Islam Bwhine is keen to defend. Roll Eyes
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Reply #122 - Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:20pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
Quote:
"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Islam allows muslims to take female captives as sex slaves this is the Islam Bwhine is keen to defend. Roll Eyes


How is pointing out the inaccuracy of what you have posted defending something?  The Muslims that rejected Islamic State and rejected al-Bagdadi and fought against them and defeated should be recognised for what they did, Baron.  You are the one being condemned for your failure to recognise their efforts.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #123 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 12:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:20pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
Quote:
"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Islam allows muslims to take female captives as sex slaves this is the Islam Bwhine is keen to defend. Roll Eyes


How is pointing out the inaccuracy of what you have posted defending something?  The Muslims that rejected Islamic State and rejected al-Bagdadi and fought against them and defeated should be recognised for what they did, Baron.  You are the one being condemned for your failure to recognise their efforts.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
Quote:
"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What did Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi do that was different to Prophet Muhammad Bwhine?

What did they do that wasn't Islamic Bwhine? Roll Eyes

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Who was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the jihadist group Islamic State

Baghdadi - real name Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim al-Badri - was born in 1971 in the central Iraqi city of Samarra.

His religious Sunni Arab family claimed to be descended from the Prophet Muhammad's Quraysh tribe - something generally held by pre-modern Sunni scholars as being a key qualification for becoming a caliph.

As a teenager, he was nicknamed "the believer" by relatives because of the time he spent at the local mosque learning how to recite the Koran and because he would often chastise those failing to abide by Islamic law, or Sharia.

After finishing school in the early 1990s he moved to the capital, Baghdad. He gained bachelor's and master's degrees in Islamic studies before embarking on a PhD at the Islamic University of Baghdad, according to a biography published by supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50200392



Prophet Muhammad had a coptic christian sex slave called Maria.

When he was busted by his wives for porking her Allah said it was halal for him to pork her against the wishes of his wives. Roll Eyes

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It was narrated from Anas,that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse,but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.'

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959


Islam allows muslims to take female captives as sex slaves this is the Islam Bwhine is keen to defend. Roll Eyes


not just females

sam harris (who is a very honest podcaster) had a guest who related the story of an ISIS captive who was chained up and contually anally raped by ISIS soldiers when they were having a bit of R and R. raped literally 1000's of times.  very sick individuals.
the left dont want to acknowledge it but
in afghanistan, american soldiers were told to say nothing about the afghani soldiers , many of whom has young male sex slaves.  it was very  common but considered culturally inappropriate to challenge
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Make Islam Funny Again

That is the only way to reconcile - laffin' at each other together.  Muslims need to make their own Life of Bbwian about their Bbwian and then we can all laugh and live side by side.

But it will never, ever happen.

Islam is a totally un-self-aware creed of subjugation and terror. There are no jokes in that, there is no self-deprecation in that.

https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1870574291613560891

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That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 12:44pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 10:05pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What did Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi do that was different to Prophet Muhammad Bwhine?

What did they do that wasn't Islamic Bwhine? Roll Eyes

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Who was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi?

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the jihadist group Islamic State

Baghdadi - real name Ibrahim Awwad Ibrahim al-Badri - was born in 1971 in the central Iraqi city of Samarra.

His religious Sunni Arab family claimed to be descended from the Prophet Muhammad's Quraysh tribe - something generally held by pre-modern Sunni scholars as being a key qualification for becoming a caliph.

As a teenager, he was nicknamed "the believer" by relatives because of the time he spent at the local mosque learning how to recite the Koran and because he would often chastise those failing to abide by Islamic law, or Sharia.

After finishing school in the early 1990s he moved to the capital, Baghdad. He gained bachelor's and master's degrees in Islamic studies before embarking on a PhD at the Islamic University of Baghdad, according to a biography published by supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50200392



Prophet Muhammad had a coptic christian sex slave called Maria.

When he was busted by his wives for porking her Allah said it was halal for him to pork her against the wishes of his wives. Roll Eyes

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It was narrated from Anas,that the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse,but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.'

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959


Islam allows muslims to take female captives as sex slaves this is the Islam Bwhine is keen to defend. Roll Eyes


not just females

sam harris (who is a very honest podcaster) had a guest who related the story of an ISIS captive who was chained up and contually anally raped by ISIS soldiers when they were having a bit of R and R. raped literally 1000's of times.  very sick individuals.
the left dont want to acknowledge it but
in afghanistan, american soldiers were told to say nothing about the afghani soldiers , many of whom has young male sex slaves.  it was very  common but considered culturally inappropriate to challenge


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi


I know who Sam is haven't listened to him for a while
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Islam is sex with ham and lettuce.
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That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?


Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.




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Reply #130 - Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.


*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #131 - Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.



*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

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Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.



*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.


Why bother, you'd only deride it as you do everything Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #133 - Dec 24th, 2024 at 8:02am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:45pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.



*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.


Why bother, you'd only deride it as you do everything Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





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Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 8:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:45pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.



*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.


Why bother, you'd only deride it as you do everything Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes







I found them OK until they made a joke about rednecks, I found that offensive.
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Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 8:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:45pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 9:04pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 23rd, 2024 at 8:43pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 8:05pm:
That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Is there??

Are they making jokes about Islam?

Or are they making jokes about how misunderstood Islam is by the infidel dogs?

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.



*SIGH* Demonstrating your ignorance of reality once more, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Tell us a joke about Islam, Bbwian.

Go on.


Why bother, you'd only deride it as you do everything Muslim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How do you find them Brian, not funny, offensive, no opinion, funny.
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 10:28am:
And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How do you find them Brian, not funny, offensive, no opinion, funny.


I find them a bit strained.  They generally weren't funny to me.  How did you find them, Leroy.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 10:28am:
And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How do you find them Brian, not funny, offensive, no opinion, funny.


I find them a bit strained.  They generally weren't funny to me.  How did you find them, Leroy.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Jokes to me is all about the delivery, a few beers and a bit more atmosphere and I probably would have a laugh at some but they come across as more dad type jokes.
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Leroy wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 1:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 10:28am:
And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How do you find them Brian, not funny, offensive, no opinion, funny.


I find them a bit strained.  They generally weren't funny to me.  How did you find them, Leroy.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Jokes to me is all about the delivery, a few beers and a bit more atmosphere and I probably would have a laugh at some but they come across as more dad type jokes.

They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.



How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


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Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:57pm:
They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.

How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


Only because you fear all Muslims, Soren.  If you knew any Muslims you'd find they have a sense of humour comparable to your own, on most subjects.  Time you moved out from your basement and interacted with the rest of society for a change. I know it is impossible but might make you far more human.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:57pm:
They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.

How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


Only because you fear all Muslims, Soren.  If you knew any Muslims you'd find they have a sense of humour comparable to your own, on most subjects.  Time you moved out from your basement and interacted with the rest of society for a change. I know it is impossible but might make you far more human.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well, give us a funny Muslim joke that isn't about how stupid or violent they are.
Go on.
You know many Muslims, they must have told you some funny jokes.


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Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:57pm:
They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.

How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


Only because you fear all Muslims, Soren.  If you knew any Muslims you'd find they have a sense of humour comparable to your own, on most subjects.  Time you moved out from your basement and interacted with the rest of society for a change. I know it is impossible but might make you far more human.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well, give us a funny Muslim joke that isn't about how stupid or violent they are.
Go on.
You know many Muslims, they must have told you some funny jokes.


Why should I give you more ammunition for your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:57pm:
They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.

How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


Only because you fear all Muslims, Soren.  If you knew any Muslims you'd find they have a sense of humour comparable to your own, on most subjects.  Time you moved out from your basement and interacted with the rest of society for a change. I know it is impossible but might make you far more human.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well, give us a funny Muslim joke that isn't about how stupid or violent they are.
Go on.
You know many Muslims, they must have told you some funny jokes.


Why should I give you more ammunition for your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am asking you for a joke about Islam/Muslims that is both funny and not about how stupid/violent they are.

You always boast about how many Muslims you know, worked, served and studied with. You always boast about how much richer and better your understanding of Muslims is. You must know at least one good Muslim joke with such a rich and long engagement with Muslims.


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Flashback: president Trump breaks the rules of political correctness to tell the truth about Islam's treatment of non-Muslims who reject Sharia laws and refuse to be slaves or second class citizens under Muslim-rule.
Do you support his right to freedom of speech?


https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1871999051148804385


In this video Brigitte Gabriel exposes ״The Muslim Brotherhood's Plan To Destroy America״.
https://t.co/7fPYUSNJHZ
Please pay attention to the part in which she explains how universities and colleges in the US are being used as a tool to promote an anti-American and anti-Israeli agenda among the younger generations.
Brigitte Gabriel (@ACTBrigitte) is a survivor of the Lebanese Civil War. She became a refugee after the Islamists took over Lebanon.
Brigitte went through hell to become a proud American citizen and now she dedicates her life to protecting America from the threat of radical Islam.
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One of the country’s top Hindu leaders has warned the nation is “incubating religious intolerance” with its failure to clamp down on anti-Semitism, claiming those who hate Jewish Australians “hate people of all faiths ­except their own”.

It comes as Hindu leaders strengthened bonds with Jewish Australians amid 2024’s rampant anti-Semitism and that community’s “453 days of nightmares”, which came to a head in November and December with attacks in Sydney and Melbourne, only months before a federal election set to be dominated by the Israel-Hamas conflict’s domestic reverberations.

The Hindu community has been one of the strongest supporters of Australian Jews – NSW Jewish Board of Deputies president David Ossip said there had been “no better friend” – and Hindu Council of Australia vice-president Surinder Jain said it was “heartbreaking” that threats toward that community were coming from “within Australia itself”.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/hindu-community-leaders-warning-for-anth...

They are talking about Muslims, of course.

Muslim hatred of Jews is topped only by Muslim hatred of Indians. The Muslim conquest of India was savage.
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/islamic-india-biggest-holocaust-world-history


Contra Isaiah, I don't see how in this marvelously ha rrmonious multiculti paradise

The Sunni wolf shall dwell with the Ashkenazi lamb,
and the shia leopard shall lie down with the young Sikh goat,
and the atheist calf and the Islamic lion and the fattened lapsed Catholic calf together;
and a little Race Discrimination Commissioner shall lead them.
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***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

Islamophobia on display.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***
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***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

Islamophobia on display.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

Is this your new yawning, you empty headed poseur?



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***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

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***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***


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But hey, it's probably a psyop or something.

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SHOCKING revelation in British Parliament 😱

Malcolm Pearson said "More than 250,000 white young girls have been r@ped largely by Muslim men in the last 25 years alone" 😳

The entire British Parliament was stunned by the report..!!

Malcolm said many people don't report these incidents because they're afraid of being called Islamophobic.

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The Shame of England


One thing that emerges in the accumulation of interviews - and which makes one even more cynical about a fresh spasm of "concern" - is that it is increasingly clear that all the previous "actions" of UK officialdom have been designed to obscure and obstruct the truth of what is happening, going back a decade-and-a-half to the Home Office under Gordon Brown. Anything that might have protected thousands upon thousands of white working-class girls - police, social services, official inquiries - has been ruthlessly subverted and compromised from the highest level down. The behaviour of South Yorkshire, West Mercia, Greater Manchester and other prominent constabularies is particularly disgusting. That is one reason why we are determined to stay on this story.

To watch this extended edition of The Mark Steyn Show, simply click below:

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Frank wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 11:48am:
The Shame of England


One thing that emerges in the accumulation of interviews - and which makes one even more cynical about a fresh spasm of "concern" - is that it is increasingly clear that all the previous "actions" of UK officialdom have been designed to obscure and obstruct the truth of what is happening, going back a decade-and-a-half to the Home Office under Gordon Brown. Anything that might have protected thousands upon thousands of white working-class girls - police, social services, official inquiries - has been ruthlessly subverted and compromised from the highest level down. The behaviour of South Yorkshire, West Mercia, Greater Manchester and other prominent constabularies is particularly disgusting. That is one reason why we are determined to stay on this story.

To watch this extended edition of The Mark Steyn Show, simply click below:

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It is not just about the Pakistani men who enjoy raping children but also about the police, politicians and social workers so anxious to accommodate their proclivities.

The truly pathetic thing is that all this has been known for over a decade - even to Sir Keir Starmer. The court decision itself dates from 2013. I heard about the use of branding from girls I talked to nine years ago.


But no one cares - because the cause of anti-racist multiculti diversity is so "noble" (in Tom Holland's revolting word) that hundreds of thousands of gang-raped children can be shooed into the shadows and left there to rot.

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Jasin wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 7:06pm:
Brian accuses victims of Moslem terrorism as Islamaphobes.


People, especially women/girls, should fear Islam as Islam enables and OKs the basest of mans inclinations. Robbery, rape, paedophilia, subjugation, murder, slavery and dishonesty.
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Islamophobia vs Kafirophobia


The term "Islamophobia," however, is a cleverly constructed propaganda tool. It conflates criticism of Islam as an ideology with prejudice or hatred toward Muslims as individuals. This misrepresentation serves to shield Islam from legitimate scrutiny and debate by framing any criticism as a form of bigotry.

As compared to Islamophobia, the threat of Quranic "Kafirophobia" is real.  This Quranic teachings of Kafirophobia teaches Muslims that Kafirs:

Are donkeys 62.5, 74.50
Are dogs 7.176
Are cattle 7.179, 25.44, 47.12
Are losers 2.121, 3.85, 5.5, 8.37, 10.95, 27.5, 29.52, 39.63, 39.65
Are wicked 8.37
Are insolent 6.146, 7.166, 40.75, 67.21
Are hard-hearted 39.22, 57.16
Are deaf 2.171, 5.71, 6.39, 17.97, 30.52
Are blind 2.171, 5.71, 17.97, 30.53, 41.44
Are dumb 2.171, 6.39, 17.97
Are ignorant 6.111, 39.64
Are miserly 4.37
Are begrudging 3.120
Are transgressors 5.64, 5.78, 6.110, 7.186, 10.11, 10.74, 37.30, 50.25
Are corrupting 5.64, 10.40
Are filthy 9.28
Are superficial 19.73-74
Are traitors 5.13, 22.38
Are liars (Over 10 verses)
Are perverse 5.75, 9.30, 10.34, 35.3, 40.63
Are envious 2.90, 2.109, 2.213, 3.19
Are evildoers (Over 10 verses)
Are degraded 5.41
Are feeble 22.73
Are deluded 3.24, 6.130, 7.51, 35.40, 45.35, 67.20
Are arrogant (Over 10 verses)
Are defiant (Over 10 verses)
Are conceited 38.2
Are ungrateful 22.38, 35.36, 39.3
Are the vilest of animals in Allah's sight 8.55
Are the worst of all creatures 98.6
Are Allah's enemy 2.98, 8.60, 41.28, 60.1
Are Muslims' enemy 4.101, 8.60, 60.1-2
Have impure hearts 05.41
Have schadenfreude 3.120
Allah hates them 35.39, 40.10
Allah does not love them 3.32, 22.38, 30.45
Allah destroys them 3.141, 17.58, 21.6, 28.43
Allah disgraces them 9.2, 16.27
Allah defiles them 6.125, 10.100
Allah tortures them 4.56, 18.29, 22.19-22, 40.71-73
Allah forsakes them 7.51, 20.126, 32.14, 45.34
Allah curses them (Over 10 verses)
Allah humiliates them (Over 10 verses)
Allah casts terror into them 3.151
Allah turns them into apes 2.65, 5.60, 7.166
Allah turns them into pigs 05.60
Allah turns them into worshippers of evil 05.60
Allah turns them into scum 23.41
Allah sends devils on them 19.83
Allah ignores their good deeds 18.105


These Quranic teachings are nothing else than Hate Speech against non-Muslims, who don't accept Muhammad as a prophet.
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 9:24pm:
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Setanta wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 10:15pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, can you show me where I displayed any support for "Rape and paedophilia" that required your warning?  What have you against people being warned against Islamophobia, Setanta?  What happened to your belief in Freedom of Speech?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 10:34pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 9:24pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, can you show me where I displayed any support for "Rape and paedophilia" that required your warning?  What have you against people being warned against Islamophobia, Setanta?  What happened to your belief in Freedom of Speech?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.
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Frank wrote on Oct 1st, 2024 at 12:55am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 4:24pm:


Show us your Doctor of Divinity credentials and explain where legitimate criticism of Islam ends and 'phobia' starts.

Thanks. We'll  wait. You are the expert in this, like in wacism.


The blind Western ideology of Hitchens and Dawkins re "Islamophobia" (see posts #2 and #3) is shown by the fact they don't understand  'anti-semitism" is the opposite side of the same coin.

ie regarding scripture as 'the Word of God'.

Who are Jews without the Jewish bible?

Muslims are many races.

Why did Jews want to re-establish Israel?

An Enlightenment is urgently needed for followers of both the Jewish bible (OT) and the Koran. (Christians following the NT have their own problems, though generally causing less conflict in the world, while they patiently wait for the '2nd Coming').

And then Palestine (formerly Israel) can becone One, again.

The atheists Hitchens and Dawkins discount the adherence to scripture as 'the Word of God'  which is causing all the conflict.








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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.
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Hybridization actually adds strength to a culture, Soren.  Specialisation leads to weakness.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Hybridization? - they don't integrate so how is that possible?  They stick to their own racial demographics... set up enclaves, which in a lot of cities become virtual no go zones.

You're a deluded utopian dreamer.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


All fundamentalist Muslims in every western country they migrated to support the actions of groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah and most of them are backed by a fundamentalist Islamic State i.e. Iran.

Seems you've had the Taqiyya number done on you.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".


BS..they weren't Muslim Lands.

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The Palestinians were in Israel first, then it was flooded with European Jews from the Holocaust.  I have sympathy for someone fleeing the Holocaust, but they shouldn’t be able to just take over someone else’s land, should they?

ANSWER:
The statement and question posed above may be something you hear from those who believe the Jews creation of the State of Israel constituted an act of colonialism – an act of taking political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, displacing its indigenous people, and exploiting it economically.

Consider the historic inaccuracies in the statement and question above:

It is inaccurate to say Arab Palestinians lived there first.

Jews have lived on the land of Israel continuously for almost 4,000 years.

The land of Israel is the birthplace of the Jewish people.  Approximately 4,000 years ago, Abraham moved to the land of Israel where he lived with his family, raised his children and purchased land to bury his wife and himself.
After Abraham came Isaac and Jacob.  Jacob, who was named Israel by God, had twelve sons whose families became the 12 Tribes of Israel.

Approximately 3,000 years ago, the Jews established a monarchy in the land that includes Israel, Gaza, the West Bank (Judaea and Samaria), the Golan Heights, parts of Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. (See the map below)
king-saul-twelve-tribes-unification-map

The map above shows the lands occupied by
the 12 Tribes at the time of the unification by King Saul.

King Saul united the 12 Tribes as a Jewish nation.

Under King David (who ruled first from Hebron – today part of the West Bank), Jerusalem was established as the capital of the Jewish nation.  King David purchased Mount Moriah for 50 shekels of silver.

King Solomon built the holy Temple in Jerusalem, known as the First Temple.

The Babylonians conquered Israel about 2600 years ago (586 BCE) and destroyed the First Temple.  Most of the Jewish population was exiled to Babylon, but some Jews remained.

About 150 years later (539 BCE), the Persians conquered Babylon and permitted the Jews in exile to return to Israel and authorized the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.

200 years later Alexander the Great and Greeks conquered the Persians and the Jews continued to live in Jerusalem and Israel under Greek rule.

The Romans occupied Jerusalem and Israel in the first century BCE.  The Jews revolted against Roman Rule about 130 years later during what became known as the First Jewish Revolt.  In response, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple (70 CE).  Many Jews were slaughtered by the Romans and most left the country, but some Jews remained.  The Romans renamed Judea “Palaestina” in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land.  It was from that point forward land became known as Palestine.

It was not until 622 CE that the Muslim religion was established by Mohammed in Mecca in what is today Saudi Arabia.

Caliph Umar was a contemporary of Mohammed and began conquering non-Arabian lands, including Palestine, around 636 CE. Jews were permitted to reenter Jerusalem and settled around the Western Wall. However, over the next 400+ years, Jews suffered under Caliphate rule.

Christian Crusaders conquered Palestine in 1099, slaughtering both Jews and Muslims.

After 200 years under Christian rule where non-Christians, including Jews and Muslims suffered, the Mamluks began rule of the area.  During the Mamluk era there was a decline of towns and commerce and of Jewish communities.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".

Muslim lands created on Christian lands. On Persian lands. On Indian, Afghan, Assyrian lands.

What is so ****ing special about Muslim real estate changing hands? Happens to everyone else.

Violent Islamic Jihad is the difference.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
Quote:
"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


All fundamentalist Muslims in every western country they migrated to support the actions of groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah and most of them are backed by a fundamentalist Islamic State i.e. Iran.

Seems you've had the Taqiyya number done on you.


Your error: not all Muslims are fundamentalists: and Jewish fundamentalists like PM Rabin's murderer are the same as Muslim fundamentalists.

Yigal Amir (Hebrew: יגאל עמיר; born May 31, 1970) is an Israeli right-wing extremist who assassinated incumbent Prime Minister of Israel, Yitzhak Rabin on November 4, 1995, at the conclusion of a rally in Tel Aviv, Israel. At the time of the murder, he was a law student at Bar-Ilan University.

Even a tertiary education is unable to penetrate fundamentalism based on scripture perceived as 'the "Word of God". 

Ditto for  the illegal settlers in the WB.
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In 1517 the Ottomans took over control of Palestine and there was a further decline of the land, but an increasing Jewish population.

During World War I, in 1917, the British took over control of Palestine and the British Mandate for Palestine (discussed further below) was established in 1922.

Maps from the 19th and early 20th century of “Palestine” demonstrate Palestine was seen historically connected to Jews.  This VIDEO shows various maps through time recognizing that the term Palestine applies to the Jewish nature of Palestine from well before the Ottoman Empire.

From the timeline above, it is clear that Jews preceded both Arabs and Muslims in Palestine by 2600 years if measured from the time of Abraham or by at least 1600 years if measured from the establishment of Kingdom of Israel.

It is inaccurate to say Jews are interlopers into the Middle East and that they only came to the land after the Holocaust.

While Jews were dispersed from the Middle East at various times, Jews have lived continuously in the Land of Israel, including through Babylonian, Persian, Roman, Byzantine, Muslim and Crusader rule.

Large Jewish populations were established in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century BCE and in other cities throughout Palestine by the eleventh century.

Crusaders massacred Jews in the 12th century and the Jewish population rebounded over the next two centuries.

By the fourteenth century when Israel fell under Muslim rule, there were Jewish communities in at least thirty cities, including Haifa, Hebron, Gaza, Jerusalem and Safed.

At the time of the Ottoman conquest in the early sixteenth century, 200 years later, Jews lived in Jerusalem, Nablus, Hebron, Safed and in many Galilean villages.

Jews in the Diaspora began to return to Israel in 1770 from Eastern Europe

Many Jews, also, left Eastern Europe in the late 18th and early 19th centuries in order to pray and die in the four sacred cities of the Holy Land: Jerusalem, Safed, Tiberias and Hebron.

According to a British census in 1864, Jews constituted a majority of the population of Jerusalem. 

In 1875, an Ottoman census of Jerusalem confirmed the Jewish majority in Jerusalem and another in 1905 showed Jews represented two-thirds of the Jerusalem population.etc.etc.etc.


https://jfedsrq.org/did-jews-take-israel-from-palestinians/

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* The statement and question raised are historically inaccurate.

*Palestine defines a geographic region, not a nationality.

* “Palestinians” were not there first – Jews have continuously been on the land for over three thousand years.

*There was an influx of European Jews starting in the 1770’s.  It did not start with the Holocaust.

*There are more Palestinian, Arab and North African Jews than the number of Jews arriving from DP camps after the Holocaust.

*As Jews developed the lands, more Arabs moved into Palestine.

*There was never a Palestinian State nor an Arab Palestinian people

*The term “Palestinian” was used to describe all people living in Palestine, Jews, as well as Arabs.

*Palestine (“Palaestina”) was the name given to the area when the Romans conquered the area.

*Jews didn’t just take over the land – they purchased it, they developed it, they grew the country.

*Britain, post-World War I allies, the League of Nations and the United Nations all intended that a Jewish homeland would be established in the British Mandate known as Palestine.

*The term Palestinian as used today was an invented term that was not used until the 1960’s and was invented by Russia.
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Reply #176 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:06am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:20am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:49pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 9:37pm:
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"We have Yazidi women, Kurdish women, Christian women! Come and take what your right hand has the right to possess [Surah 23 Verse 1-6], a sex slave! Our brave fighters went to capture them by killing their disbelieving husbands!"

Sick culture!

https://x.com/realMaalouf/status/1868806395208122406


Video of open slave market in the Islamic state.

If you think this is wrong some morally bankrupt leftist might call you an islamophobe


Now why were the Islamic state declared anathema by most other Muslims, Baron?  You're trying to characterise this as typical behavior but we have clear evidence that most Muslims rejected Islamic State for what it was, a barbarian state.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


All fundamentalist Muslims in every western country they migrated to support the actions of groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah and most of them are backed by a fundamentalist Islamic State i.e. Iran.

Seems you've had the Taqiyya number done on you.


Your error: not all Muslims are fundamentalists: and Jewish fundamentalists like PM Rabin's murderer are the same as Muslim fundamentalists.

Yigal Amir (Hebrew: יגאל עמיר; born May 31, 1970) is an Israeli right-wing extremist who assassinated incumbent Prime Minister of Israel, Yitzhak Rabin on November 4, 1995, at the conclusion of a rally in Tel Aviv, Israel. At the time of the murder, he was a law student at Bar-Ilan University.

Even a tertiary education is unable to penetrate fundamentalism based on scripture perceived as 'the "Word of God". 

Ditto for  the illegal settlers in the WB.


They were not & are not illegal settlers.
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That would explain why there is a healthy Muslim stand-up series of comics on the circuit, now would it, Soren?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me, betrayed by reality once more, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Most are pretty ordinary comedians - their sets are usually full of playing the race or Islamophobia card.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:46am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".


BS..they weren't Muslim Lands.


Er - the 'Palestine Mandate' lands were part of the Islamic empire since  the 7th century AD (with  a brief occupation by Crusaders 1099-1187) 


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The Palestinians were in Israel first,


Your error in history: Jebusites ( a Canaanite people) occupied the land before the Jews.

Stop trying to excuse the confiscation of Muslim lands, on historical terms. 

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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 1:19pm:
Leroy wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 12:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 10:28am:
And what is your opinion of those jokes, Soren?  Did you enjoy them?   Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


How do you find them Brian, not funny, offensive, no opinion, funny.


I find them a bit strained.  They generally weren't funny to me.  How did you find them, Leroy.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Why aren't I surprised? ... another woke virtue signaler like the guy in the front row (the Editor).
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Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:54pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 4:17pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 24th, 2024 at 3:57pm:
They are just telling the truth about Muslims in a jokey format.

A good joke is like a hidden trapdoor, a sudden change in perception. But Islam is just grim and stupid, without any real humane element, without any rich or interesting ideas that you can hold up to the refractory light of humour. All the Muslims jokes are about how stupid and violent the sons of Mohammed are.

How does every Islamic joke start?
By looking over your shoulder.


Only because you fear all Muslims, Soren.  If you knew any Muslims you'd find they have a sense of humour comparable to your own, on most subjects.  Time you moved out from your basement and interacted with the rest of society for a change. I know it is impossible but might make you far more human.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well, give us a funny Muslim joke that isn't about how stupid or violent they are.
Go on.
You know many Muslims, they must have told you some funny jokes.


Why should I give you more ammunition for your Islamophobia?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What a piss weak excuse. Typical.
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 10:34pm:
Setanta wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 9:24pm:
***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

Islamophobia on display.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***


***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***

Rape and paedophilia support on display.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

***WARNING******WARNING******WARNING******WARNING***


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, can you show me where I displayed any support for "Rape and paedophilia" that required your warning?  What have you against people being warned against Islamophobia, Setanta?  What happened to your belief in Freedom of Speech?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Every post you made after another post that mentioned Muslim rape gangs.
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Reply #182 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:27am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:49am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".


Muslim lands created on Christian lands. On Persian lands. On Indian, Afghan, Assyrian lands.


That's right, that's what empires did, before men decided to create the UN in the age of MAD.

Whereas Jews only conquered "The Promised Land" , before being expelled by the Roman empire.

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What is so ****ing special about Muslim real estate changing hands? Happens to everyone else.


See above, the UN has intervened in the business of "real estate changing hands".

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Violent Islamic Jihad is the difference.


No, post ww2 Islamic teerorism is the result of the UN's confiscation of Muslim lands, to create Israel again - without first ensuring an Islamic  Enlightenment.   


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They were not & are not illegal settlers.


Says the rejector of international law.

Deplorable.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:14am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:46am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".


BS..they weren't Muslim Lands.


Er - the 'Palestine Mandate' lands were part of the Islamic empire since  the 7th centruy AD (with  a brief occupation by Crusaders 1099-1187) 


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The Palestinians were in Israel first,


Your error in history: Jebusites ( a Canaanite people) occupied the land before the Jews.

Stop trying to excuse the confiscation of Muslim lands, on historical terms. 



They never were Muslim or Arab lands. And they weren't confiscated.

The Jews were there for 2600 years before Muslims & have had constant connection.

By your logic you should have no more to say about the colonisation/settling of this country by Europeans(English) and displacement of Aboriginals...

because their previous long occupation & connection to the land means nothing if you say the Jews have no right to the lands because they were Muslim lands. Roll Eyes
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Reply #185 - Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:38am
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:32am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:06am:
They were not & are not illegal settlers.


Says the rejector of international law.

Deplorable.


And you're just dithspicibul.  Grin

International Law mandated that the Jewish homelend be in the British Mandate of Palestine.

You just conveniently ignore the facts because you support the destruction of Israel & the removal of Jews from the ME .....

A deplorable Jew hater & Islamic terrorist organisations supporter.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:27am:
Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:49am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:54am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 9:46am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:17am:
Frank wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 11:07am:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 17th, 2024 at 7:18pm:


If you are critical of Islam openly (ie not by crude graffiti on bins), the response is violent, often deadly.


Really?  Criticisms usually made on the basis of ignorance are treated with contempt, Soren.  Perhaps that is a problem with your education?  A PhD in psychology doesn't equip for much outside psychology, now does it?  Such a shame you foolishly believe otherwise and parade your ignorance in nearly subject you comment on.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The only ignoramus in the discussion is you.

If there's to be an Islamophobia(no such thing)Envoy... then there needs to be an Envoy for every other religion.


Well....yes.

People who fail to recognise the recreation of Israel on Muslim lands (enabled by the UN) is the cause of Islamic terrorism (like youself) ARE "Islamophobes".


Muslim lands created on Christian lands. On Persian lands. On Indian, Afghan, Assyrian lands.


That's right, that's what empires did, before men decided to create the UN in the age of MAD.

Whereas Jews only conquered "The Promised Land" , before being expelled by the Roman empire.



So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?

What use is the UN if Muslims can simply ignore it?
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Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 10:46am:
It is inaccurate to say Arab Palestinians lived there first.


Correct.

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And blacks  have lived in Oz for much longer....whereas Canaanite peoples already lived in Palestine before  Abraham turned up, and long before David conquered Jerusalem from the Jebusites.   

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Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:42am:
So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?


Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181) 

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Well.....indeed: the UN was crippled at its inception by the neanderthal demand for 'absolute national  sovereignty', and veto power for the members of the UN "Security" Council. 

Which amounts to a rejection of international law, in the age of MAD....neanderthals never learn. 
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:42am:
So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?


Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181) 




So we are pandering to unenlightened, primitive and violent people, importing them into our countries by the million.
Because....? Why??


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You're wrong TGB (& Brian Troll).
The Lands of the Levant in the Middle-East were originally
1: Pagan Lands
2. Zoroastrianism Lands
3. Israel Lands
4. Moslem Lands
...in that order.
5. Israel Lands again
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Now that th Australian Aborigine has proven to the world that 'the LAND' is indeed a Black thing.
But is the Middle-East truly about 'the LAND'?
Sure, Mohommedism is the portal to Africa and all things HOLY LAND as surely Judaism as the portal to Asia is all things HOLY CITY.
The thing is that the Middle-East's true identity is the HOLY TEMPLE, neither of land or city.
Let alone Christianity's portal to Europe as HOLY SPIRIT (ghostly reflection).

So the process of Israel and Islam falling back on each other due to the New Worlds proving them to be 'false gods', will inevitably lead to the demise of both upon the sacrificial pig of Christianity. Zoroastrianism will remain to carry the fire like a phoenix from the ashes to rise again.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 12:08am:
Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.


My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia.  They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic.  You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding.  Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people.  Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians.  What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:17am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 12:08am:
Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.


My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia.  They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic.  You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding.  Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people.  Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians.  What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Muslims in those English towns knew what was going on. They did not find it repugnant enough to act in order to weed out the child rapists in their midst.
They would have rioted instead if police and politicians had rightly identify Pakistani Muslim culture as the root of the problem.

And police and politicians covered it all up for decades BECAUSE the fear of that rioting and accusations of wacism and Islamophobia - ie exactly what YOU are doing - and not because Muslims find racially motivated sexual exploitation of infidels repugnant. The evidence is precisely the opposite - Muslims condone and accommodate racially motivated sexual abuse and exploitation of infidel girls and violently reject the correct identification of this as wacism and Islamophobia.

You ARE part of the cover-up and therefore of  the problem.


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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 10:17am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 12:08am:
Sure I can. Every time you post your stupid crap to in reply to a post about Islamic rape and paedophilia as you have done here multiple times. So stop calling the abuse and rape of children by the followers of Islam Islamophobia, it's not.

You want freedom of speech to call people rightly calling out the Islamic rape and torture of children, Islamophobia. I have the right to call out your support for what they do. Tsk, tsk, tsk... indeed. You're sick.


My calls about Islamophobia are not about Rape and Paedophilia.  They are about the attitudes of people to Muslims in general and your mistaken belief that they are about Rape and Paedophilia simply show that you, yourself are Islamophobic.  You, like all the other Islamophobics seem to believe that all Muslims are Rapists and Paedophiliacs in hiding.  Muslims generally find Rape and Paedophilia repugnant just like normal people.  Then you have the Rapists and Paedophiliacs which constitute a minority amongst Muslims just as they do amongst Christians.  What you have to do is get out and meet some ordinary, everyday Muslims are disabuse yourself from your insane ideas about them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:42am:
So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?


Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181) 

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What use is the UN if Muslims can simply ignore it?


Well.....indeed: the UN was crippled at its inception by the neanderthal demand for 'absolute national  sovereignty', and veto power for the members of the UN "Security" Council. 

Which amounts to a rejection of international law, in the age of MAD....neanderthals never learn. 


Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.
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That would only be a good thing for the UK. Grin
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Germany attacking Jews was the wrong thing.
France not attacking Moslems is the wrong thing.
Brian the big tuff soldier boy is to chicken shyte to do his job and deal with the Moslems.
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If you point out muslims preach it's OK for muslims to rape non muslims some Islamic apologist might call you an Islamophobe.

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Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:56am:
Frank wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:42am:
So why don't the Muslims accept the UN decision to create Israel?


Because they weren't enlightened enough to accept Jewish sovereignty over part of their Muslim lands, with the promise of a shared sovereignty in Jerusalem (as per UN res 181) 

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What use is the UN if Muslims can simply ignore it?


Well.....indeed: the UN was crippled at its inception by the neanderthal demand for 'absolute national  sovereignty', and veto power for the members of the UN "Security" Council. 

Which amounts to a rejection of international law, in the age of MAD....neanderthals never learn. 


Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts.
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Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:38am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:32am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 5th, 2025 at 11:06am:
They were not & are not illegal settlers.


Says the rejector of international law.

Deplorable.


And you're just dithspicibul.  Grin

[highlight]International Law mandated that the Jewish homelend be in the British Mandate of Palestine.[/highlight


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You just conveniently ignore the facts because you support the destruction of Israel & the removal of Jews from the ME


Incorrect. I support international law, in this case, UN res 181..

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A deplorable Jew hater & Islamic terrorist organisations supporter.


Incorrect: one right and two wrongs, as to be expected from a blind RW ideolgue  who claims he supports international law, and dnies the fact of the muslim conquest in the 7th century (before intenational law).

Deplorable..
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.
Before that, it was Jewish, called JUDEAH by the Romans, Israel by the Jews. For a thousand years, from about 1000 BC.
And importantly, Jews have lived there continuously ever since. That's at least 1600 years longer than it has been "Muslim land".

Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.

So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.
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Jasin wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 3:51pm:
Germany attacking Jews was the wrong thing.
France not attacking Moslems is the wrong thing.
Brian the big tuff soldier boy is to chicken shyte to do his job and deal with the Moslems.
Like France, ALP and Democrats - cowards.


Jasin is another rejector of international law, who has decided he can't respond to the issues I  raised in the 'Western culture' thread.

Yes, Hitler's antisemitism was insane, and France tolerating Muslim terrorism is regretable.

And Biden - a Democrat, complicit in the ongoing slaughter in Gaza - shows a 'no limits' support for Israel.

Which gets us back to international law, in this case UN res. 181, and why it was never implemented.

Interestingly, Trump is thinking of implementing his own version of 'internationl law' based on America First(!) ; today he said he would not rule out the use of force to acquire the Panama canal and Greenland. (as one comentator said, you can't buy free nations).

The US SHOULD be a party to implementing international law, in this case, UN res. 181, using its vote in the UNSC.

Bur like Jasin, the US doesn't abide by international law. 

The reason?

It revolves around the notion of national 'sovereignty'.

National sovereignty is said to be based on the consent of the nation's citizens; but in a democracy, only 50%+1 of the citizens are required to grant 'consent' for the government to rule, according to the nation's Constitution. (In China, consent for the CCP to rule is granted by the Constitution)

The fly in the ointment is citizens' own desires for as much personal autonomy/"freedom"  as possible; in its extreme form we see the notion of "sovereign citizens" who reject the legality of rule of law.

The same applies to implentation of international law, ie, individual nation demand the right to act in their own perceived interests, ensuring that war remains the ultimate method of dispute settlement, even in the age of MAD.

We have a problem.

Now, not all Muslims are fundamentalists, and obviously it would be much better if Muslim governments (as opposed to fundamentalist 'sovereign citizens' acting on their perception of the  "Law of God', abided by rule of international law instead.

And much better if the US and Israel abided by rule of international law as well.

But it's going to be rough for all Palestinians, both innocent and guilty, if Trump follows though with his promise "all hell will result" if the hostages aren't freed when he becomes President in a fornight's time.

Deplorable; he could impose UN res 181 on the warring parties, since the other members of the UNSC are already on board with UN res 181. (the UNSC possesses 99% of the world's latest military technology, it would be suicidal for individuals or nations to oppose the UNSC acting with one voice in the servioe of international law.

I suspect Brian, defending Islam as a faith, is not aware of the issues surrounding  'sovereign' citizens, national 'sovereignty ', and international law either, which is why the Conservatives here are having a field day piling onto Brian.i
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Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:28am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.


Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up.  Sad


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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.


See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure  of  interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

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So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.


Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.


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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:01am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:28am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.


Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up.  Sad


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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.


See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure  of  interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

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So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.


Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.




Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea. 

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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Source

Please keep up, Soren.  You're over 30 years behind events.  Your Islamophobia makes you ignore reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's legitimacy and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which mandated Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people.[16]

Source

Please keep up, Soren.  You're over 30 years behind events.  Your Islamophobia makes you ignore reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Continue reading your source, lying, yawning moron:


Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced violence against Israel, the PLO engaged in militant activities during the Second Intifada (2000–2005). On 29 October 2018, the PLO Central Council suspended the Palestinian recognition of Israel.[17][18]

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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's legitimacy and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which mandated Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people.[16]

Source

Please keep up, Soren.  You're over 30 years behind events.  Your Islamophobia makes you ignore reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Continue reading your source, lying, yawning moron:


Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced violence against Israel, the PLO engaged in militant activities during the Second Intifada (2000–2005). On 29 October 2018, the PLO Central Council suspended the Palestinian recognition of Israel.[17][18]

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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's legitimacy and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which mandated Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people.[16]

Source

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Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced violence against Israel, the PLO engaged in militant activities during the Second Intifada (2000–2005). On 29 October 2018, the PLO Central Council suspended the Palestinian recognition of Israel.[17][18]


You're right but was that a political decision rather than a religious one?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's legitimacy and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which mandated Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people.[16]

Source

Please keep up, Soren.  You're over 30 years behind events.  Your Islamophobia makes you ignore reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Continue reading your source, lying, yawning moron:

Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced violence against Israel, the PLO engaged in militant activities during the Second Intifada (2000–2005). On 29 October 2018, the PLO Central Council suspended the Palestinian recognition of Israel.[17][18]


You're right but was that a political decision rather than a religious one?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Moronic lie, doubled down with moronic stupidity. There is NO such thing as separation of religion and politics among Palestinians, not in Hamas, not in the  PLO:


Under President Arafat, the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority adopted the 2003 Amended Basic Law, which stipulates Islam as the sole official religion in Palestine and the principles of Islamic sharia as a principal source of legislation.[50] The draft Constitution contains the same provisions.[51][52] The draft Constitution was formulated by a Constitutional Committee, established by Arafat in 1999 and endorsed by the PLO.
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Bwhine will say the real problem is all these people have Islamophobia.

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How is that Sharia law working out for women in Afghanistan?
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You're right but was that a political decision rather than a religious one?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


There is no difference between political and religious in Islam. Islam is a political, legal and religious ideology, there is no separation. Ask all your Islamic friends you work, serve and study with. Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:01am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:28am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.


Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up.  Sad


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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.


See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure  of  interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

Quote:
So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.


Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.




Silly bollocks from beginning to end.


Naturally (being an uneducable, crippled-brain RW ideologue) you failed to refute any of the points made except the last.

Deplorable.

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The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.


Sheer ignorance.  UN res 181 gave them East Jerusalem
(or rather, shared sovereigny over the entire city - the original UN  plan); but since the '67 war, Israel has objected to eiither arrangent which is why the Camp David t\and Oslo accords failed.

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RW propaganda; Hamas want that, not Fatah.
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thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:01am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:28am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.


Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up.  Sad


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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.


See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure  of  interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

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So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.


Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.




Silly bollocks from beginning to end.


Naturally (being an uneducable, crippled-brain RW ideologue) you failed to refute any of the points made except the last.

Deplorable.

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The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.


Sheer ignorance.  UN res 181 gave them East Jerusalem
(or rather, shared sovereigny over the entire city - the original UN  plan); but since the '67 war, Israel has objected to eiither arrangent which is why the Camp David t\and Oslo accords failed.

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They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea. 


RW propaganda; Hamas want that, not Fatah.


Hamas beat Fatah in an election in Gaza.
So who speaks for Palestinians?


As for Jerusalem and the rest - the Palestinians didn't take their statehood opportunity when it first came up in 1948, when Israel did take its chance. Since then the Arabs started half as dozen wars and violent attacks on Israel to so the facts on the ground have changed considerably. There is no going back to everything the Palestinans may have wanted in 1948 or 56 or 67 or 73 or the 1990s etc.
You can't always have what you want, as the poet crooner. Or all of it.
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Reply #220 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:59am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 10:52am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
Silly bollocks from beginning to end.

The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.

They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea.


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Mediated talks between the Israeli government and the PLO in 1993 (the Oslo I Accord) resulted in the PLO recognizing Israel's legitimacy and accepting United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, which mandated Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories, while Israel recognized the PLO as a legitimate authority representing the Palestinian people.[16]

Source

Please keep up, Soren.  You're over 30 years behind events.  Your Islamophobia makes you ignore reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Continue reading your source, lying, yawning moron:


Despite the Israel–PLO Letters of Mutual Recognition (1993), in which PLO leader Yasser Arafat renounced violence against Israel, the PLO engaged in militant activities during the Second Intifada (2000–2005). On 29 October 2018, the PLO Central Council suspended the Palestinian recognition of Israel.[17][18]


Your error: in 1993, Arafat expected implemention of UN res 242, in exchange for recognition of Israel.

The talks failed because Israel refused to cede sovereignty of occupied territory including East Jersalem to Palestinians since the '67 war (as per UN res 242) and has been stalling ever since, and the murder of PM Rabin reduced Israeli citizens' appetite to cede occupied territory (including E. Jerusalem). 

Mwanwhile, you failed to acknowledge my post answering your question: why did the UN fail to implement UN res 181.

Revealing your blind RW mental incompetence, as always.

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Reply #221 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am
 
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews implemented their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.
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Reply #222 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:17am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:51am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:39am:
Frank wrote on Jan 9th, 2025 at 7:35am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 11:01am:
Frank wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:28am:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 9:03am:
Gnads wrote on Jan 7th, 2025 at 12:13pm:
Once again - they were not historically or traditionally Muslim lands.


Once again, they were Muslims lands from the Arab conquest in the 7th century.

See how blind RW ideologues deny historical  facts. 


Before the Muslim conquest it was Christian lands.


Correct, but gnads is denying the fact Palestine has been under Muslim control for the last 1300 years - longer than ancient Israel's existance.

Do try to keep up.  Sad


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Israel WAS created by international law, as a result of the Jews accepting the UN resolution. There is no Palestinian state next to Israel because the Muslims did not accept the same international law, the same UN resolution. Nor another subsequent 5 opportunities to have their own state alongside Israel.


See my post to Jasin above, which explains the failure  of  interntional law, and failure to implement UN re 181..

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So what DO the Muslims want?  In paractical, actual terms?
The elimination of Israel as a Jewish state.


Today, most Moslem governments , and enJightened MuslIms (of which there are many) would settle for UN res 181.

Educate yourself, read the post to Jasin, above.




Silly bollocks from beginning to end.


Naturally (being an uneducable, crippled-brain RW ideologue) you failed to refute any of the points made except the last.

Deplorable.

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The Palestinians had at least 5 opportunities to settle for something even better than res 181. They walked away from every one of them.


Sheer ignorance.  UN res 181 gave them East Jerusalem
(or rather, shared sovereigny over the entire city - the original UN  plan); but since the '67 war, Israel has objected to eiither arrangent which is why the Camp David t\and Oslo accords failed.

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They want a Judenfrei Palestine from the river to the sea. 


RW propaganda; Hamas want that, not Fatah.


Hamas beat Fatah in an election in Gaza.
So who speaks for Palestinians?


Hamas support began rising among Palestinians when the PLO failed to achieve UN res 242 after many years. 

Conversely, a majority of Gazans  - like the vast  majority of the UN membership, now want a 2 state solution, after the Oct 7th Hamas attack on Israel


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As for Jerusalem and the rest - the Palestinians didn't take their statehood opportunity when it first came up in 1948, when Israel did take its chance.


What did militarily superior zionists  chance, when the UN offered them confiscated Palestine Mandate land, without also ensuring the creation of the Palestinian state?

You blind RW ideologue.....

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Reply #223 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:43am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.


You uneducable, blind RW ideologue, I already explained why the UN was crippled at its inception, and failed its first test i ie,  the creation of 2 new states via a majority vote by the UN.   

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Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking.


And requiring UNSC backing.....


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The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.


It was the job of the UN, not Israel, to "p ammend", ie implement UN res 181, as per one of the UN's earliest resolutions. The UN failed, resulting in ongoing war ever since.

And only the UN could have partitioned the Palestine Mandate legally, because there was no process before the UN whereby Jews could take Palestine Mandate territory without using force.

So the Jews took their UN-designated part of the Palestine Mandate by force anyway, because the UN was powerless to implement UN res 181 and stop the war.

Deplorable.



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Reply #224 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #225 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.
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Reply #226 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:58pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.


You uneducable, blind RW ideologue, I already explained why the UN was crippled at its inception, and failed its first test i ie,  the creation of 2 new states via a majority vote by the UN.   

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Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking.


And requiring UNSC backing.....


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The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.


It was the job of the UN, not Israel, to "p ammend", ie implement UN res 181, as per one of the UN's earliest resolutions. The UN failed, resulting in ongoing war ever since.

And only the UN could have partitioned the Palestine Mandate legally, because there was no process before the UN whereby Jews could take Palestine Mandate territory without using force.

So the Jews took their UN-designated part of the Palestine Mandate by force anyway, because the UN was powerless to implement UN res 181 and stop the war.

Deplorable.




The Jews accepted the UN resolution and declared a state.  The Muslims didn't accept the UN resolution and attacked Israel.

Take it from there.

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Reply #227 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #228 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.


The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?
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Reply #229 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #230 - Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:09pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bbwian. You actually know it. Everyone does.



Where is the UN's military force?  Who commands it? Who pays for it? Who sends it into action? Who recalls it?



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Reply #231 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:45am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bbwian. You actually know it. Everyone does.


When you cannot argue you resort to insults, Soren.  Such a silly mistake but all too common when discussing anything with you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Where is the UN's military force?  Who commands it? Who pays for it? Who sends it into action? Who recalls it?


The UN's military force is made up of volunteer forces which nation's contribute to an operations.  Australia has led several operations over the years such as East Timor, Namibia and Cambodia.  The US has led several operations over the years such as Korea, Kuwait and Kosovo.  Now run along and troll back under your bridge.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #232 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bbwian. You actually know it. Everyone does.


When you cannot argue you resort to insults, Soren.  Such a silly mistake but all too common when discussing anything with you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Where is the UN's military force?  Who commands it? Who pays for it? Who sends it into action? Who recalls it?


The UN's military force is made up of volunteer forces which nation's contribute to an operations.  Australia has led several operations over the years such as East Timor, Namibia and Cambodia.  The US has led several operations over the years such as Korea, Kuwait and Kosovo.  Now run along and troll back under your bridge.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So it IS nation states and their NATIONAL armies.


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Reply #233 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:38pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 11:08am:
The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bbwian. You actually know it. Everyone does.


When you cannot argue you resort to insults, Soren.  Such a silly mistake but all too common when discussing anything with you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Where is the UN's military force?  Who commands it? Who pays for it? Who sends it into action? Who recalls it?


The UN's military force is made up of volunteer forces which nation's contribute to an operations.  Australia has led several operations over the years such as East Timor, Namibia and Cambodia.  The US has led several operations over the years such as Korea, Kuwait and Kosovo.  Now run along and troll back under your bridge.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So it IS nation states and their NATIONAL armies.


No one has disagreed with that,  Soren.  They act under UN mandate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:38pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 12:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11th, 2025 at 11:45am:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 8:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 4:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 3:40pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 2:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 10th, 2025 at 1:57pm:
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The UN cannot implement anything. It can only resolve, endorse or censure- talk.

Only actual member states can implement - ie act beyond talking. The Jews in p amended their side of 181 by declaring Israel and then defending it and then making an actual, functioning country.

The Palestinians could do the same. But the work of creating a functioning country is a lot more hard work than stealing international aid and spending it on Jihad against an actual, functioning state.


This would explain why the UN expelled Iraq from Kuwait in 1991, would it, Soren?  This would explain why the UN expelled Serbia from Kosovo in 1999?  You seem very particular in what parts of history you remember.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The United States and it's allies did, not the UN.
The UN has no military force, only states have military forces.


Oh, so the UN Security Council resolutions were meaningless to the US, Soren?  What a distorted view of history you have.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Is this really your best?? (Yes...)  your question confirms my point: the US acted, not the UN, as far as DOING anything other than talk, resolve and vote.

The UN can pass any number of resolution. If there are no willing countries to act, it is meaningless talk.  The UN demanded thart Russia "immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw" from Ukraine as it is violating its territorial integrity and sovereignty. The vote was 143 yes, 5 no. Nothing happened.

The UK took back the Falklands regardless of the UN.
Etc.

As Stalin said of the pope and could have said of the UN: How many divisions has he got?


Oh, dearie, dearie me, your mistaking the General Assembly for the Security Council where the real power resides.  The General Assembly can talk all its like but it's resolutions are not binding.  The Security Council on the otherhand makes decisions which it has the power to enforce.  The veto of the permanent members can prevent the Security Council from acting but when there is no disagreement, they act.  They did not disagree over Korea, nor over the Congo and not over East Timor, not over Kuwait and not over Kosovo.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bbwian. You actually know it. Everyone does.


When you cannot argue you resort to insults, Soren.  Such a silly mistake but all too common when discussing anything with you.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Where is the UN's military force?  Who commands it? Who pays for it? Who sends it into action? Who recalls it?


The UN's military force is made up of volunteer forces which nation's contribute to an operations.  Australia has led several operations over the years such as East Timor, Namibia and Cambodia.  The US has led several operations over the years such as Korea, Kuwait and Kosovo.  Now run along and troll back under your bridge.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So it IS nation states and their NATIONAL armies.


No one has disagreed with that,  Soren.  They act under UN mandate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yes, but neither of you is confronting WHY the UN can't defend international law. 
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Today Trump cancelled Biden's sanctions against violent (illegal) WB settlers.

Ofcourse the ceasefire will collapse, as the settlers - supported by the IDF  - are given clarte blanche by Trump to do as they please in the occupied territories.

Now we have the stupid, ideologically-blind Israeli assistant minister for foreign affairs accusing the Oz government of "stoking the fires of anti-semitism" in Oz, because of Oz's pro 2-state stance in the UN (along with the vast majority of nations).

People not blinded by ideology can see loathing of the Israeli government's  policies in Palestine is NOT 'anti-semitism'.

Here in Oz we have ideologically blind  Jews hiding behind the atrocities in the Holocaust to push their claims of "Oz government antisemitism" - while ignoring the extreme RW Israeli government's own atrocities in Palestine (Gaza and the WB)....which even the ICC is investigating.

Ofcourse ideologically blind Muslims in Oz will be motivated to act on the ugly violence against Muslims in Palestine being  commited by the equally ugly RW Israeli government, now supported by Trump.

Note: Islamophobia is the the mirror image of Judeophobia, both being based in blind, conflicting ideology.

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“Our Hamas brothers are fighting with their blood for ISLAM TO DOMINATE. We are in a civilisational struggle where Islam will dominate … every corner of the Earth.”

https://x.com/nogulagsagain/status/1884379171935105419


If you don't want Islam to dominate every corner of earth you must be an Islamophobe.

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“Our Hamas brothers are fighting with their blood for ISLAM TO DOMINATE. We are in a civilisational struggle where Islam will dominate … every corner of the Earth.”

https://x.com/nogulagsagain/status/1884379171935105419


If you don't want Islam to dominate every corner of earth you must be an Islamophobe.


Slain underworld figure Suleiman 'Sam the Punisher' Abdulrahim's funeral expected to draw major police operation at Melbourne mosque


Uh-oh...  Not Fireman Sam. Sam the Punisher.  At the mosque.

Diversity is our strength: some Sams are firemen, some Sams are punishers. Sam Sam but different, innit
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Funeral for slain Melbourne gangland figure Suleiman “Sam” Abdulrahim

The body of gunned-down Melbourne gangland figure Sam “The Punisher” Abdulrahim has been carried from his funeral service in a gold coffin.


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Swedish police on Thursday said five people had been arrested over the fatal shooting of an Iraqi man who carried out several Quran burnings.

Swedish media said Momika had been streaming live on TikTok at the time he was shot.

Momika and co-protester Salwan Najem were in August charged with "agitation against an ethnic group" on four occasions in 2023.

The charge sheet says the pair desecrated the Quran, including setting it on fire, while making derogatory remarks about Muslims. On one occasion, the protest took place outside a Stockholm mosque.

https://www.dw.com/en/quran-burner-salwan-momika-killed-in-sweden/a-71454446


Islamophobic Iraqi refugee who fled Iraq said Islam was dangerous and violent was shot dead by muslims.

Muslims prove Islamophobia is a rational fear of Islam

Burn a Quran muslims are outraged.

Muslims burn Yazidi women alive and muslims say nothing.
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"the story is “most likely not true,” according to human rights investigator Christoph Wilcke." Baron as usual displaying his Ilamophobia happily... Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Are you proud displaying your Islamophobia so plainly, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:49pm:
Are you proud displaying your Islamophobia so plainly, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Its humor Brian, didn't you even crack a smile.
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Leroy wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:49pm:
Are you proud displaying your Islamophobia so plainly, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Its humor Brian, didn't you even crack a smile.


It is distasteful, it demonstrates how much Baron dislikes Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:53pm:
Leroy wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:49pm:
Are you proud displaying your Islamophobia so plainly, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Its humor Brian, didn't you even crack a smile.


It is distasteful, it demonstrates how much Baron dislikes Muslims.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

What do you like about Islam, Brian?
What aspects of Islam have allowed into your life?
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Is Brian proud being a Pro Terrorist?
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 6th, 2025 at 1:49pm:
Are you proud displaying your Islamophobia so plainly, Baron?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Pointing out the truth with Islam isn't Islamophobia bwhine


Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy approves of wife beating if you fear disobedience
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The Prophet (ﷺ) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.
https://sunnah.com/abudawud:2147

Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed;and [finally], strike them
https://legacy.quran.com/4/34


Allah the most merciful of those who show mercy allows muslim men to have slaves they can have sex with slaves even if their wives object.
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the Messenger of Allah had a female slave with whom he had intercourse, but 'Aishah and Hafsah would not leave him alone until he said that she was forbidden for him. Then Allah, the Mighty and Sublime, revealed:
"O Prophet! Why do you forbid (for yourself) that which Allah has allowed to you.

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3959


Child brides are allowed under sharia law.
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Chapter: Consummation Of Marriage With A Girl Of Nine

Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."
https://sunnah.com/nasai:3378


Bacon is haram
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Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood,the flesh of swine

This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.
https://legacy.quran.com/5/3


Islam allows men to bash their child brides into submission they can also have sex with their slaves.
If you say this is morally wrong then you're saying Prophet Muhammad was morally wrong which might upset muslims.

You can't have bacon in this religion muslims claim has been perfected by Allah  Smiley
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do proudly display your islamophobia, Baron.  I wonder how many Muslims believe all those things in modern Australia, compared to Christians who believe the worse aspects of their religion, such as it is a faith of violence, corruption, superstition, polytheism, homophobia, bigotry, pontification, abuses of women's rights and sectarianism?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian telling porkies as usual
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Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 12:59pm:
Brian telling porkies as usual


If you have detected "Porkies", Jasin, tell us about them and prove they are "Porkies". Otherwise you are just bullshitting and just Trolling.  Something you excel at.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 12:53pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, you do proudly display your islamophobia, Baron.  I wonder how many Muslims believe all those things in modern Australia, compared to Christians who believe the worse aspects of their religion, such as it is a faith of violence, corruption, superstition, polytheism, homophobia, bigotry, pontification, abuses of women's rights and sectarianism?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Do christians call critics of their religion christianophobes?
Do Jews call critics of their religion Judeophobes?
Do Hindus call critics of their religion Hinduphobes?

As Falah (a muslim) pointed out in this forum muslims cannot pick and choose which parts to believe in this is the difference between other religions and Islam.

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So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.


https://legacy.quran.com/2/85


Ask your muslim friend about that verse in the Quran bwhine Roll Eyes


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Iraq just lowered the age for child brides.

Bwhine would like to silence everyone on this fact he will call people who criticise that Islamophobic
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Brian is a pro Islamic pro terrorist and Australiaphobe.
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Ask your fellow Christians about obeying the Bible, Baron?  It commands:

John 14:15 - “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,

Acts 5:29 - But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Isaiah 1:19 - If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land;

Luke 6:46 - “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?"

Deuteronomy 11:1
1 Love the LORD your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

2 Corinthians 10:5
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Revelation 14:12
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

Romans 1:5
5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.

Hebrews 13:17
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

John 15:14
14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

John 14:15
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

2 John 1:6
6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

Romans 2:6-8
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

Luke 11:28
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Colossians 3:22
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Romans 5:19
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

1 Peter 1:14
14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.






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Jasin wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 5:00pm:
Brian is a pro Islamic pro terrorist and Australiaphobe.


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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:34pm:
Ask your fellow Christians about obeying the Bible, Baron?  It commands:

John 14:15 - “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,

Acts 5:29 - But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Isaiah 1:19 - If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land;

Luke 6:46 - “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?"

Deuteronomy 11:1
1 Love the LORD your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

2 Corinthians 10:5
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Revelation 14:12
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

Romans 1:5
5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.

Hebrews 13:17
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

John 15:14
14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

John 14:15
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

2 John 1:6
6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

Romans 2:6-8
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

Luke 11:28
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Colossians 3:22
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Romans 5:19
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

1 Peter 1:14
14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.









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Frank wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:34pm:
Ask your fellow Christians about obeying the Bible, Baron?  It commands:

John 14:15 - “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,

Acts 5:29 - But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Isaiah 1:19 - If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land;

Luke 6:46 - “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?"

Deuteronomy 11:1
1 Love the LORD your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

2 Corinthians 10:5
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Revelation 14:12
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

Romans 1:5
5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.

Hebrews 13:17
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

John 15:14
14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

John 14:15
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

2 John 1:6
6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

Romans 2:6-8
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

Luke 11:28
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Colossians 3:22
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Romans 5:19
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

1 Peter 1:14
14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.


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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 9th, 2025 at 12:46pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:34pm:
Ask your fellow Christians about obeying the Bible, Baron?  It commands:

John 14:15 - “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance,

Acts 5:29 - But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.

Isaiah 1:19 - If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land;

Luke 6:46 - “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?"

Deuteronomy 11:1
1 Love the LORD your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

2 Corinthians 10:5
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

Revelation 14:12
12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

Romans 1:5
5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.

Hebrews 13:17
17 Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you.

John 15:14
14 You are my friends if you do what I command.

John 14:15
15 “If you love me, keep my commands.

2 John 1:6
6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

Romans 2:6-8
6 God “will repay each person according to what they have done.”
7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
8 But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

Luke 11:28
28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Colossians 3:22
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

Romans 5:19
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

1 Peter 1:14
14 As obedient children, do not conform to the evil desires you had when you lived in ignorance.


Yadda! YADDA!!!


So much for your Lutheran upbringing, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Meanwhile in other Islamic literary news:

Hadi Matar finally went on trial Tuesday for attempting to murder the novelist Salman Rushdie back in Aug. 2022. There is little, if any, doubt about Matar’s guilt, even though he has pleaded not guilty, for he stabbed Rushdie multiple times in full view of a shocked crowd at the Chautauqua festival.

A trial starts two and a half years after the attemped murder.
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 8th, 2025 at 8:34pm:
Ask your fellow Christians about obeying the Bible, Baron?  It commands:



Last census showed nearly 40% of Australians have NO Religion bwhine most of my friends and family like me don't have a religion.

Now cite me a verse in the bible that says christians cannot pick and choose which parts they believe in.

Allah is very clear with this
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So do you believe in part of the Scripture and disbelieve in part? Then what is the recompense for those who do that among you except disgrace in worldly life; and on the Day of Resurrection they will be sent back to the severest of punishment. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.

https://legacy.quran.com/2/85


If a muslim wants to go to that heavenly brothel with unlimited pussy and rivers of wine they can't pick and choose which parts to believe in.

Hindus don't ask us to stop eating beef
Jews don't tell us to stop eating pork
Buddhists don't tell us to do anything.


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O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

The more mainstream interpretation of this is to accept the law of the land wherever you may be, so long as it doesn’t interfere with your being a Muslim. If you are persecuted for being a Muslim, you have an inherent right to rebel against the government persecuting you. But then again, what qualifies as persecution?


So, You're making a rod for your own back, Baron.  Muslims are assured freedom of religion in Australia.  As long as they are peaceful they are assured of the right to worship as they desire.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #262 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 4:57pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:55am:
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Surah An-Nisa, verse 59
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

The more mainstream interpretation of this is to accept the law of the land wherever you may be, so long as it doesn’t interfere with your being a Muslim. If you are persecuted for being a Muslim, you have an inherent right to rebel against the government persecuting you. But then again, what qualifies as persecution?


As long as they are peaceful they are assured of the right to worship as they desire.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What does 4/59 say?
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O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW),and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority.

https://legacy.quran.com/4/59


Tafsir for 4/59
Quote:
O you who believe obey God and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you.

https://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=108&tSoraNo=4&tAyahNo=5...


The verse says and those in authority among you which means muslims in authority.
Nothing in that verse indicates they should obey non muslims who rule over them.

Bwhine showing everyone he is a useful idiot for Islam.

Do you claim to be atheist bwhine?
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Reply #263 - Feb 11th, 2025 at 5:00pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 11th, 2025 at 10:55am:
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Surah An-Nisa, verse 59
O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result.

The more mainstream interpretation of this is to accept the law of the land wherever you may be, so long as it doesn’t interfere with your being a Muslim. If you are persecuted for being a Muslim, you have an inherent right to rebel against the government persecuting you. But then again, what qualifies as persecution?


So, You're making a rod for your own back, Baron.  Muslims are assured freedom of religion in Australia.  As long as they are peaceful they are assured of the right to worship as they desire.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Well, they are not peaceful, are they, spineless excuser of jihad?

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You can't go around Australia for a year and more demanding the extermination of Israel and not get some of your own medicine.

Diversity is our strength.

Demanding the extermination of Jews, firebombing Jewish places - freedom of speech.
Getting your head kicked in for it - freedom of speech.
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All that CCTV and no pics of the offender Roll Eyes
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A gay Muslim leader was shot and killed when his car was ambushed by masked gunmen in South Africa where he had established a mosque for the LGBT community.

Muhsin Hendricks, 57, had defied death threats, his family said after his killing in the south coast city of Gqeberha, which was captured on security camera.

Footage shows he was the only passenger in a stationary car that was blocked by a pick-up truck carrying two men with their face covered. One gunman is seen running up to the car and firing multiple times through a back passenger window.

Hendricks had become an international figure for supporters and critics of the safe haven he had established in Cape Town for gay and other “marginalised” Muslims. He was in Gqeberha, formerly known as Port Elizabeth, to officiate at the marriage of a lesbian couple, according to local reports.

Hendricks came out publicly as gay in the mid-1990s and started a support network and later a mosque in the suburb of Wynberg. He styled himself “the world’s first openly queer imam” and used his platform to lobby for the gay community to be recognised by the Islamic religion.
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Bankstown nurses' vile outburst lifted the lid on the 'banal evil' that walks our streets after Australia imported a culture steeped in anti-Semitic hatred

For decades, we convinced ourselves that Australian multiculturalism was different from that of Germany, France or Sweden, where ethnic enclaves had been petri dishes of hostility.

We lived by the hope that migrants to Australia would leave their differences behind and become loyal citizens steeped in shared values.

Our naivety was exposed this week by the recording featuring Bankstown Hospital employees Ahmad 'Rashad' Nadir and Sarah Abu Lebdeh promising to kill Israeli patients with Nadir boasting with a claim that that he had already done so on multiple occasions.
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Greenacre is an Ethnoburg, a term coined by urban geographer Wei Li to describe ethnic suburban clusters that function as self-sustaining economic and social ecosystems.

Business and social activities are conducted in a native language, lessening the imperative to integrate with the English-speaking world.

Religious institutions and schools reinforce norms and values that can be starkly at odds with those of the host country.

A decade ago, these were often referred to as dish suburbs because of the proliferation of satellite receivers tuned to overseas TV services.

With the arrival of high-speed broadband, migrants can become exclusively absorbed into a foreign media ecosystem, connecting with Australian content lightly if at all.

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Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 6:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

Bankstown nurses' vile outburst lifted the lid on the 'banal evil' that walks our streets after Australia imported a culture steeped in anti-Semitic hatred

For decades, we convinced ourselves that Australian multiculturalism was different from that of Germany, France or Sweden, where ethnic enclaves had been petri dishes of hostility.

We lived by the hope that migrants to Australia would leave their differences behind and become loyal citizens steeped in shared values.

Our naivety was exposed this week by the recording featuring Bankstown Hospital employees Ahmad 'Rashad' Nadir and Sarah Abu Lebdeh promising to kill Israeli patients with Nadir boasting with a claim that that he had already done so on multiple occasions.
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I have recounted the long history of antisemitism in Australia.  That those accounts do not suit your purpose, Soren, simply shows how disconnected you are from reality.  You instead choose to blame immigrants and absolve Australians from any blame.  How typical of the Right.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #274 - Feb 19th, 2025 at 8:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 8:11pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 6:39pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 19th, 2025 at 3:34pm:

Bankstown nurses' vile outburst lifted the lid on the 'banal evil' that walks our streets after Australia imported a culture steeped in anti-Semitic hatred

For decades, we convinced ourselves that Australian multiculturalism was different from that of Germany, France or Sweden, where ethnic enclaves had been petri dishes of hostility.

We lived by the hope that migrants to Australia would leave their differences behind and become loyal citizens steeped in shared values.

Our naivety was exposed this week by the recording featuring Bankstown Hospital employees Ahmad 'Rashad' Nadir and Sarah Abu Lebdeh promising to kill Israeli patients with Nadir boasting with a claim that that he had already done so on multiple occasions.
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I have recounted the long history of antisemitism in Australia.  That those accounts do not suit your purpose, Soren, simply shows how disconnected you are from reality.  You instead choose to blame immigrants and absolve Australians from any blame.  How typical of the Right.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

More Muslims = more anti Semitic.

Worldwide.

Fact.

Islam is anti-jew at its very core. It is defined by being anti-jew. It is a requirement of Islam's triumph that all the Jews be exterminated.
Eternal, unchangeable word of Allah.

So **** you, spineless apologist for Islam.


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Australian Hindus have called on the next federal government to appoint an envoy on Hindu­phobia to work alongside envoys on anti-Semitism and Islam­ophobia.


“The problem … is that overseas issues, overseas problems, are being brought into Australia.”


Mr Jain said the Hindu population of 684,000 in Australia was not far behind the Muslim population of about 813,000: “We deserve an envoy of our own. One of the things that happens when you don’t have an envoy, many government departments, they look for an envoy. They will talk to the Jewish envoy, they’ll talk to the Muslim envoy (but) they will ignore us totally.”




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Frank wrote on Apr 8th, 2025 at 8:29am:
Australian Hindus have called on the next federal government to appoint an envoy on Hindu­phobia to work alongside envoys on anti-Semitism and Islam­ophobia.


“The problem … is that overseas issues, overseas problems, are being brought into Australia.”


Mr Jain said the Hindu population of 684,000 in Australia was not far behind the Muslim population of about 813,000: “We deserve an envoy of our own. One of the things that happens when you don’t have an envoy, many government departments, they look for an envoy. They will talk to the Jewish envoy, they’ll talk to the Muslim envoy (but) they will ignore us totally.”






Before these damn Indians start complaining about Hinduphobia, maybe they should take a long hard look at their own prejudices.  Indians have brought their caste system to Australia which is not a surprise.

So when they complain about Hinduphobia or whatever, have they ever considered the caste status of other Indians - especially the Untouchables - is illegal.  Dalits here in Australia have long feared that the discriminating and offensive caste system they thought they had left behind in India, is now fully entrenched into Indian/Australian society. 




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The Caste system is Racism in action and justification.
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