Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 
Send Topic Print
Free Speech More Myth Than Reality. (Read 4060 times)
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 114466
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #75 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:15am
 
chimera wrote on Mar 21st, 2025 at 6:04am:
The poster named steve9 would be an AI spam bot. The text is auto translated with wrong syntax and abnormal word-use and mixed topics in one post. The themes are subversive, generally about Australian education, and probably are sent from Russia-China.



His posts are too long to read -

he needs to make them short and punchy
as I doubt anyone ever reads them.   Roll Eyes

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
chimera
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 13182
Armidale
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #76 - Mar 21st, 2025 at 7:19am
 
Do you mean he exists?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 54231
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #77 - Sep 20th, 2025 at 5:57am
 
Countries with the highest number of arrests for online comments in 2023:

🇬🇧 United Kingdom: 12,183
🇧🇾 Belarus: 6,205
🇩🇪 Germany: 3,500
🇨🇳 China: 1,500
🇹🇷 Turkey: 500
🇷🇺 Russia: 400
🇵🇱 Poland: 300
🇹🇭 Thailand: 258
🇧🇷 Brazil: 200
🇸🇾 Syria: 146
🇮🇳 India: 100
🇮🇷 Iran: 100
🇫🇷 France: 54
🇺🇸 USA: 50
🇻🇳 Vietnam: 45
🇪🇬 Egypt: 20
🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia: 15
🇦🇿 Azerbaijan: 13
🇭🇺 Hungary: 10

And then Brits come and lecture the world on the so-called "free speech" 🤡

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1968376382452379753

Back to top
« Last Edit: Sep 20th, 2025 at 6:04am by Frank »  

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 54231
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #78 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 6:06pm
 
UK police are arresting over 12,000 each year for ‘offensive’ speech. That’s over 30 arrests per day.

So I thought I’d compile a list of UK citizens who have been visited, investigated or arrested by police for speech crime.

This list is by no means comprehensive!

https://x.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1909287108520587451


Everything is policed except crime.

2,136,252 crimes went unsolved across England and Wales in the year ending September 2024 - equivalent to 5,852 crimes going unsolved every day. This accounted for nearly 40% of all crimes recorded that year.

No wonder, when half a dozen officers are sent to 'check your thinking' about a Farcebook post.

Back to top
 

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
greggerypeccary
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 147541
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #79 - Sep 25th, 2025 at 7:05pm
 

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
John Smith
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 78083
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #80 - Sep 26th, 2025 at 8:49am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 11:27am:
Questioning the race, gender, green, multiculti orthodoxies is career ending for academics and professional staff. Students are ostracised if they do not toe the line.




Were you sacked?
Back to top
 

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 114466
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #81 - Sep 26th, 2025 at 9:01am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 6:06pm:
UK police are arresting over 12,000 each year for ‘offensive’ speech. That’s over 30 arrests per day.

So I thought I’d compile a list of UK citizens who have been visited, investigated or arrested by police for speech crime.

This list is by no means comprehensive!

https://x.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1909287108520587451


Everything is policed except crime.

2,136,252 crimes went unsolved across England and Wales in the year ending September 2024 - equivalent to 5,852 crimes going unsolved every day. This accounted for nearly 40% of all crimes recorded that year.

No wonder, when half a dozen officers are sent to 'check your thinking' about a Farcebook post.




It's the thought police as predicted in 1984.





Someday they won't let you, now you must agree
The times, they are a-telling, and the changing isn't free
You've read it in the tea leaves and the tracks are on TV
Beware the savage jaw of 1984

[Verse 2]
They'll split your pretty cranium and fill it full of air
And tell you that you're eighty, but brother, you won't care
You'll be shooting up on anything, tomorrow's never there
Beware the savage jaw of 1984

[Chorus]
Come see, come see, remember me?
We played out an all night movie role
You said it would last, but I guess we enrolled
In 1984 (Who could ask for more?)
1984 (Who could ask for more?)
(More)

[Verse 3]
I'm looking for a vehicle, I'm looking for a ride
I'm looking for a party, I'm looking for a side
I'm looking for the treason that I knew in '65
Beware the savage jaw of 1984
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Gnads
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 32267
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #82 - Sep 26th, 2025 at 6:59pm
 
chimera wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:50pm:
Another example is Peter Ridd who was sacked from James Cook uni for abnormal views on the barrier reef and for misconduct. The judge said James Cook University had "not understood the whole concept of intellectual freedom".


Yes because Peter Ridd actually won his case. JCU are a bunch of govt grant chasing, science for hire dishonest arseholes.
Back to top
 

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais
 
IP Logged
 
Gnads
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 32267
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #83 - Sep 26th, 2025 at 7:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 7:05pm:


TDS DICKHEAD.
Back to top
 

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid." ~ Ricky Gervais
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 54231
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #84 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 9:43am
 
FOUR Irish policeMEN (garda) arrive at a teacher’s home for the second time to arrest him for refusing to call a student “they”.


https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/1991542050488217916


Policing speech instead of crime. Two thirds of crimes in Ireland go unsolved, as of 2015. More now.



This shite is happening because the politicians and the authorities want it to happen.

Back to top
 

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
Postmodern Trendoid III
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 10300
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #85 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 9:18pm
 
free speech is over rated.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Postmodern Trendoid III
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 10300
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #86 - Nov 22nd, 2025 at 9:21pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 9:55am:
You raise a lot of valid points.

While it is true that the education system is shaped and influenced by those in positions of power, it is important to recognise that higher education, particularly at the university level, is where the cultivation of critical thinking is most rigorously pursued. Universities serve as environments where individuals are not merely encouraged but required to challenge established ideas, question underlying assumptions, and engage with a diverse array of perspectives.

This, perhaps, explains the animosity directed towards such institutions by those who benefit from maintaining a population that is compliant and uncritical. Institutions that foster independent thought are viewed as threats by the very powers that would prefer a workforce of obedient, unquestioning individuals. Thus, they exploit societal divisions and label these bastions of intellectual growth with derogatory terms such as 'woke factories,' 'liberal indoctrination camps,' 'echo chambers,' and 'Marxist breeding grounds,' all as part of a broader strategy of control.

In fact, for students pursuing a science-based path even during their senior years of high school, the foundation for critical thinking is already being established. The emphasis shifts from rote memorisation to the comprehension of complex concepts, the resolution of intricate problems, and the formation of reasoned conclusions grounded in empirical evidence.

It is easy to criticise the system from a position of limited exposure, particularly if one’s education ceases at a more basic level. However, those who continue their education often acquire the intellectual tools necessary to not only see through propaganda but also to critically evaluate and interpret the world around them. Ironically, the same system that is often criticised is the very one that equips individuals with the cognitive framework to question its authority effectively. Higher education does more than impart knowledge,it teaches individuals how to think. And in that lies true empowerment.



critical thinking is rarely used, nor is it encouraged on most topics. repeating some marx or whoever verbatim isn't critical thinking. it's the opposite.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Yadda
Gold Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 22462
A cat with a view
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #87 - Nov 23rd, 2025 at 5:36am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 25th, 2025 at 6:06pm:

UK police are arresting over 12,000 each year for ‘offensive’ speech. That’s over 30 arrests per day.

So I thought I’d compile a list of UK citizens who have been visited, investigated or arrested by police for speech crime.

This list is by no means comprehensive!

https://x.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1909287108520587451


Everything is policed except crime.

2,136,252 crimes went unsolved across England and Wales in the year ending September 2024 - equivalent to 5,852 crimes going unsolved every day. This accounted for nearly 40% of all crimes recorded that year.

No wonder, when half a dozen officers are sent to 'check your thinking' about a Farcebook post.




Engaging in CRITICAL THINKING,
in Australia, late in 2025.....


"UK police are......"  ....late in 2025, police impersonators,
they are impersonating real 'Bobby's.

What a disgrace !

What a usurping.....of the rights of the Common Man, in England, late in 2025.

usurp = = take illegally or by force.     supplant.




"If you want a picture of the future,
imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever."

- [from] 1984 - George Orwell


And who knew that George Orwell [back in the 1940's-1950's],
would be the prophet of what was to come,
...to England ?


Quote:

wiki

Thoughtcrime


In the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, thoughtcrime is
the offense of thinking in ways not approved
by the ruling Ingsoc party.

In the official language of Newspeak, the word crimethink describes the intellectual actions of a person
who entertains and holds politically unacceptable thoughts;
thus the government of The Party controls the speech, the actions, and the thoughts of the citizens of Oceania.[1]......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime


.


Quote:

wiki

Thought control


In the story of Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Thinkpol (Thought Police) are responsible for the detection and elimination of thoughtcrime, and for the social control of the populations of Oceania, by way of audio-visual surveillance and offender profiling.

Such psychological monitoring allows the Thought Police to detect, arrest, and kill thought criminals, citizens
whose independence (intellectual, mental, and moral) challenges the political orthodoxy
of Ingsoc (English Socialism) and thus the legitimate government authority of the Party.[2]......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime


It is LEFTIST WOKE ideology all over isn't it !

Proving how evil the hearts of men are.

Russia Gate.


Resistance Is Futile!:
How the Trump-Hating Left Lost Its Collective Mind

21 August 2018
by Ann Coulter (Author)
"Since the day Donald Trump announced his presidential campaign, the left has waged a demented war against him.

Liberals used to pride themselves on their ultra-hipness, but Trump has turned them into weeping little girls in pink party dresses. The very people who once mocked right-wingers for (allegedly) overreacting to every little thing are now the ones hyperventilating and hatching insane conspiracy theories.

During the campaign, and even more so after his victory, the left went nuts. Everything Trump does sends them into a moral panic. Everything is a constitutional crisis. "



.


2 Thessalonians 2:12
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


Isaiah 43:8
Bring forth the blind people that have eyes,
and the deaf that have ears.
9  Let all the nations be gathered together,
and let the people be assembled:
who among them can declare this,
and shew us former things?
     let them bring forth their witnesses,
     that they may be justified:
     or let them hear, and say, It is truth.
10  Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD,
and my servant whom I have chosen:
that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he:
before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11  I, even I, am the LORD;
and beside me there is no saviour.



John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way,
the truth,
and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


Love God.

Love God's righteousness.

Be at peace.



Back to top
 

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 54231
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #88 - Nov 23rd, 2025 at 6:17am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Sep 13th, 2024 at 12:08pm:
The crux of the issue remains that higher education isn’t about dictating what to think but rather fostering the ability to think, to critically evaluate content and hone the skills necessary to distinguish fact from fiction.



And yet, only universities have 'safe places' and trigger warning even on classic texts, enforce speech codes, university "collectives" delatform and denounce academics.
It is totally naive to imagine that humanities faculties that deal in ideas and their ideology are not captured by this or that ideological faction, not to say fashion.
Back to top
 

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
Bobby.
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 114466
Melbourne
Gender: male
Re: Free Speech More Myth Than Reality.
Reply #89 - Nov 23rd, 2025 at 6:33am
 

Dear Yadda,
many blessings.

Your posts are so long that I doubt anyone reads them -

make them short and punchy.

forgiven

namaste
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 
Send Topic Print